Why even bother to continue living?

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

This topic might get a bit grim, but I’m not really sure what the point is. I feel like I’m just floating through life. I don’t really have any goals or desires. Nothing really interests me and everything seems boring. Even my “interests” sometimes become uninteresting. I have opened my eyes in recent years and seen that nothing is real, virtually everything is fake. I don’t trust a soul, whether its a woman or a man. Relationships of any kind are a joke to me.

Every girl I’ve ever dealt with was secretly trying to trap me with marriage/a baby and all of the “love” was always fake. As soon as they saw I wouldn’t budge, the “love” instantly evaporated almost overnight. What a coincidence. Most male friends I have are just text-buddies and are heartless deep down. When I say “heartless” I mean that they don’t stand for anything, have no principles, and would sell out for some pussy or cheap thrill in the blink of an eye. Typical blue-pillers. I once had a best friend cancel a fun night of activities that we had planned weeks in advance to hang out with a girl who sprung up 2 days before the big day. He cancelled on me in a heartbeat to hang out with her just so he could maybe get some pussy. He didn’t even get it.

I’ve met some honorable and stand-up male friends in my life, but even they were dangerous. One of my best friends in particular was secretly very jealous of me for being in a better financial position and getting a taste (literally) of his dream girl who had previously rejected him (this was before we knew each other). He ultimately did everything in his power to try and sabotage me and manipulate me down to his level by taking advantage of my vulnerabilities. A snake in the grass if you will. He did it in a sneaky way that took months as opposed to overnight, making it harder to detect. Eventually when I ended up back on even terms with him, his mission was accomplished, and he disappeared shortly after. It’s been years since I’ve seen or spoke to him (good riddance). Family isn’t much better either, and mine is full of blue-pillers and trad-con idiots. The rest are dead or gone.

I don’t believe in god or anything supernatural. I’m very open minded and have considered all possibilities at one point or another. At this point in my life though, most of it is just bulls~~~ to me. Logic and science are the only real and tangible things. Ghosts, ghouls, spirits, gods, demons, heaven, hell, fate, laws of attraction etc.; all just a bunch of f~~~ing nonsense. I don’t believe anything happens when you die other than you ceasing to exist and your brain shutting down permanently. We are just evolved monkeys on a giant floating rock that are subject to a host of random variables and occurrences. Good or bad luck is what governs most of, if not everything. Your life is not controlled by fate, destiny, or some guardian angels looking over your shoulder. We are simply intelligent beings that are prone to random sequences of events that were set in motion potentially billions of years ago.

I lost a job that had a $100k salary and now I am working for 3-4x less than that amount with a commute that is 3x as long. This alone is suicide material. I don’t want kids, a wife, or any kind of close companionship as there are drawbacks to these types of relationships. I love my dog as he seems to be the only one who is pure. He wears his emotions on his exterior. No lies or deceptive qualities, but the only problem is that he is not an advanced or intelligent being. I lost the drive for everything and am not motivated by money or women. Unless I won the lottery, I don’t see myself ever making more money. I just don’t have the drive for it like I used to when I was filled with hope and vigor. In my early 20’s, I tried starting businesses and other things, but nowadays I just don’t even have the drive or passion to even try anymore. Oddly enough I thought of a pretty useful invention that I’m fairly certain would make money, but I don’t even have the drive to patent it and put it in motion. I just don’t give a f~~~. Someone else will probably invent it soon enough.

I am approaching my 30’s and have been trying to envision my future. I see myself getting more and more cynical and depressed, but with the added horror of physical deterioration on top of that. Grey hairs, weakened joints, wrinkles, etc. My remaining family will die off or go in opposite directions, and my dog/s will die. Eventually I will be alone and wondering more and more why the f~~~ I’m even doing this. Why am I getting up each day to go to some bulls~~~ stressful job? Suicide is something that crosses my mind from time to time, but I’ve never had the urge to actually go through with it. I can potentially see this changing as time goes on though. This world is going to s~~~ anyway and unless you are a transgender minority female, you have no chance in the future. I’m sorry if my nihilistic outlook on things was morbid or depressing. Maybe somebody here (smart men who’s opinions I truly value) can actually give a good reason on why anyone feeling like me should continue? What is there to look forward to?

1 last thing, please don’t suggest drugs or anti-depressants. I’m not interested in taking them and really don’t trust the pharmaceutical industry.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Ah, thinking about suicide. I found a great reason to continue living. I don’t want to come back.

Woody Allen said it best. “There have been times when I’ve thought of suicide but with my luck it’d probably be a temporary solution.”

I looked into research on death and I stumbled onto research of reincarnation, by a man named Ian Stevenson and his team. Ian’s research was continued by one of his students, Jim Tucker, and his team.

We are talking thousands and thousands of case studies.

There is a lot of interesting stuff on this research.

The highlights are. Reincarnation between lives is on average sixteen months. Karma is very real. Gender swap between lives is around 15%. Which supports the myth of gender swap every seven lives. And suicides are sent to the front of the line, so they can relearn what they were suppose to in the life they killed themselves in.

What this means is that if you kill yourself, you are likely coming back to relive in this s~~~hole of a culture sooner rather than later.

I don’t know about you, but that scares that hell out of me. Because the one thing I fear more about dying and coming back to this world as another person, and growing up against as boy in this abuse fill culture is the possibility of being born a girl and being brainwashed to be so selfish, superficial, shallow, and being everything I despise in women.

At least right now. We realize the s~~~ we are end and we rejected it. And that is rare.

And anyone with a brain can see this society is on it’s last legs. It will be gone soon enough. It’s a waiting game. And I prefer to wait it out. If I die during the collapse, that is fine with me, because I will view it as a victory, because I am not coming back to this culture.

In the meantime, do what other MGTOW suggest. Focus on improving yourself. Or, just relax. Read a book. Do something you can joy. If you are tired of this life, there is not rush to leave. Just take your time until the reaper comes. You don’t know, you might gain a few enjoy experiences in the meantime.

And yes. I admit, I have probably the most twisted view on suicide and reincarnation there can be. And I am okay with that. Because that view keeps me going. That is me going my own way.

By the way, 30’s is a great age bracket for men, when it comes to physical health. As long as you keep the stress related aging down. It is the mid-forties when things start going downhill for men. And unlike women, it is not a wall, just a slow decline. It is very gradual. And you will not notice it at first.

[RennieParticipant]

Don’t kill yourself!

Life’s not that bad. Especially when you go MGTOW.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

There is no reason to live that works for everybody. you have to find your own. find a purpose, something you enjoy or want to accomplish and do it.

Don’t look into the future. when you’re depressed, it’s always bleak and that just makes things worse. The truth is you don’t know what the future holds. I am speaking from experience. I wanted to kill myself after my divorce. Not because I was heartbroken. I was glad to be rid of the wife. But i thought about the future too much. I thought I would never make as much money (I quit my 6 figure accounting career to start a business and the divorce pretty much prevented me from putting any money into it). I thought I would be in poverty for the rest of my life because of support payments. i lost my kids, had to sell my house, no income and no future. So why live? I spoke to a therapist. She gave me good advice. She said don’t think about the future because you don’t know what it holds. You think it will be perpetual misery but it won’t be. Just get through the minute, the hour, the day. All kinds of people told me that things would get better and I didn’t believe them. My depression wouldn’t let me. But I followed the advice. Just got myself through the day. I made a plan for myself to get a job, any job, and go from there. That’s what I did. Things have gotten much better. I’m happier now than i can ever remember being.

Keep looking for better jobs, closer to home. Commutes give you nothing to do but hate life. Slowly climb the ladder again. I have slowly improved my life and my job. There is no quick fix. I moved from job to job, slowly making more and more money. Now, 2 years later, I’m in the middle east making good money and next month i have a job interview for another mid-east job paying 6 figures, no income tax. Net of tax, I’ll be making more than i did as an accountant and i don’t have to share it with the government or my ex wife.

The purpose of my life? My kids, sure. I don’t want them to think their father gave up. But also i have a dream of owning a nice house overlooking the ocean. That’s it. That’s all I want. Walk out of my front door and stare out into infinite blue.

The reason for you to continue living is out there. Give yourself time to find it. If you do decide to kill yourself, do me a favor. Go to Afghanistan or Syria and kill a bunch of ISIS militants. Go out that way. you might as well do something constructive if you’re going to die.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Anonymous 5]

There is no point. Life sucks. Once you accept this, you will be a lot happier.

And no, life doesn’t get better. It only gets worse as you age. Deal with it. 🙂

[Anonymous 5]

I’m very much in the same boat MGTOW4life.
I’m financially secure but I’m a lot older than you.
I know what you mean by having a lack of drive because all the reasons I was driven have turned out to be nonsense.
I also don’t believe in any specific god and I know randomness dictates mostly everything.
I’m extremely independent and I don’t need help from anyone for anything on a personal day to day level. I’m wary of those who try to be friends because more often than not they need something from me, whereas I don’t need anything from them. It’s never going to be a fair exchange.

I’d lose that long commute job as quickly as possible. I did a long commute job many years ago and it would have to be one of the worst times of my life.
Consider a downgrade in your standard of living, rather than continue with that job.
I believe the commute is the real reason behind your problems,,, not all the other things you’ve mentioned even though they play a big part. They’re something you can reason out and solve.

I’m lucky, I’m still mad on fishing.
I like documentaries and f~~~ing around on the net.
I’m mad on growing rare plants too.
I always work at least 2 days a week,,, no more if I can help it.

Don’t factor in “Growing old”, you’re a man.
I’m one of the fittest f~~~ers you’ll ever have the misfortune to cross, and I’m pushing 60.
Bitches still hit on me, and not just the run of the mill land whales and other road kill but the occasional hotty as well.

Do light exercise and eat really well (like a diabetic) and old age will only slow you a bit.
For a man, old age is the icing on the cake.

Dream about where you’d love to live and how you’d love to live.
Find the god within yourself and talk with HIM.
There are no atheists in foxholes.

[RoyDalParticipant]

WHY EVEN BOTHER TO CONTINUE LIVING?

The alternative will arrive soon enough. There is no need to hurry it.

In the meantime, I shall focus on developing my mind in order to achieve some grasp of what reality is.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

RoyDal wrote:

The alternative will arrive soon enough. There is no need to hurry it.

In the meantime, I shall focus on developing my mind in order to achieve some grasp of what reality is.

Nice comment, RoyDal. I could not have said this better, myself.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Anonymous wrote:

There is no point. Life sucks. Once you accept this, you will be a lot happier.

That goes one to one with my own self observations hence good one, mrpops238. Well said and yes same goes to Rennie and RoyDal.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[WallyParticipant]

I know he has caused some controversy here lately, but one of messengers videos really hit home for me the one titled Time and Tide waits for no man. Might check it out.

Finding purpose will be different for each man. For myself, i felt similar to you (MGTOW4life) at one point. It was only when I was on the brink of losing everything that I really learned to appreciate what I had.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 0]

Hey Wally,
Out of all the doom and gloom that I read in your opening post, one thing shone out like rising sun. You believe in logic and science. The world needs and wants people with those abilities. Trouble is the the femtards of the world want us to concentrate on them. Just look at the advertising/news that you are indoctrinated with every moment of every day. The message that society wants you to believe is that you are deficient and only they can help you. GUILT, in others words. This applies to religion, the corporate hierarchy, and feminists (although I believe that that bunch will never be happy) pseudo-friends etc.

This site and the brothers on it all speak the same message regardless of differences. That message is this.
1: Every man must go his own way and that is the only way that matters.
2: Stand up and be a man (that is what you are) It is only been in the last 50 or so years that feminists have taken over and told us that men are no good.
3: What’s wrong with being a man? I mean, really, just because some mangina or other femtard says it doesn’t make it true.
Recommendation:
1: Turn off the F~~~ING TV.
2: Turn off the radio. It full of mangina nonsense, silly love songs, and feminist BS.
3: Get off social media. T~~~ter, F~~~book, etc.
4: Take sometime to think about what YOU want. Use logic and science to re-make yourself IN YOUR OWN IMGAGE.

I don’t believe you are on the verge of offing yourself; I believe you are looking for a new direction to go but you don’t know where or how to get there due to a lifetime of the wrong indoctrination and propaganda. Use the abilities that you have in abundance (logic, science, reason, honour) to GO YOUR OWN WAY. Stick around, read, post, learn, most of the guidance you get will be from men who have been right where you are right now.
I have said enough.

[Anonymous 0]

Sorry guys I got the OP’s name wrong. It is MGTOW4 Apologies to Wally.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I think we all kind of make up our own reasons for living. Make something up! I know I had to. Life can suck pretty bad if you look for other people to motivate your life. As I have gotten older, I realized that, at least to me, life is interesting just because something might happen. If you’re dead, nothing happens at all. I can’t believe in an afterlife, god etc., and have no interest in trying. That’s something other people made up a long time ago, because people have wrestled with what you are feeling from the dawn of time. The alternative to life is not better, it is just nothing. I am comfortable with that, but in no hurry to get there.
Having given up looking to other peoples’ opinions to motivate my continued existence, I have become rather comfortable in the realization that nothing is really important beyond the importance I may artificially attach to it. There is no inherent “meaning” to life, it just is. My meaning is just as valid as the next guy’s.
There is much to see, feel, and be in the world. Life and reality is not just what is happening now in a world of petty people motivated by s~~~. There is a whole universe out there beyond that. We don’t need to obsess about making something of life, just pick something that doesn’t bore us and pay attention to that. F~~~ all the other abstract crap. Death, and the big nothing, will come soon enough anyway.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[DDJParticipant 1880]

A friend told me a long time ago: Life is like a bowl of oatmeal with raisins and lumps. Mostly bland, with a mix of good and the bad. Too many people are out there searching for happiness like some crazed drug addict without appreciating how great their situation was until it was gone.

While I can’t speak for other MGTOW, I’ve had amazing successes and horrible life-altering setbacks. As a get older I realize…so has everyone else. You can either focus on your failures and turn a normal grieving process into long-term depression…or you can focus on your past successes and use the confidence gained from those experiences to move forward.

No one can find meaning for life other than you. One of your first statements hits the nail on the head…you have no goals. Well, if you choose to live…make some. Life is about experiencing things…we cherish the good because we’ve experienced the bad.

Take control of your life and you will eventually find the meaning you seek.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

READ MY NAME …. FKING READ IT…

I LIVE AGAIN …

THAT’S ME.

It should read ‘I live again & again’

This is because I’ve been close to the end twice.

Once by gods (whom doesn’t exist) hand and the other by my own.

When god tried .. through cancer … I found who my friends and loved ones really were. They were NOT the people I thought. Hell some I never met until I was ill.

I watched some of them die before my eyes. One guy we kidnapped from the hospital ward to die in a car as he watch a sunrise at the beach.

I was told I was about 4 weeks from the end before I reversed.

The second time I tried to hang myself and was saved by children laughing outside. To this day that sound lifts my heart from most darkness.

YOU MUST NOT RID US OF YOUR SOUL.

How the fk do we know what you could have done for us. How do we know your depression won’t open parts of your mind that sees you being the next Steve Jobs or Hawkin?

How do you know you won’t save a kid from being abducted?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR DEATH WON’T DRIVE 3 OTHERS TO DEEP DEPRESSION AND THEY TAKE THEIR LIVES?

If you are truly truly at the end and see no use for yourself …. contact me.

I will make use of you. Get your worthless life out to Africa and go help the Bushmen dig wells and solar coolers for medicine.

YOU MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT TO YOURSELF …. BUT YOU ARE TO ME.

So fking important that I’ve put down this s~~~ Chinese take out …. and am typing this.

STOP THINKING HOW YOU FEEL. Go feel for others … a homeless guy. Buy food … drink .. and go sit and talk with him.

GO GIVE … reach out to a brother in need …

There you will find your soul, life, spark ….

YOU DO NOT GET TO CHECK OUT WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION.

And if you prove you are that empty inside …. we’ll give it.

[Anonymous 42]

[EntropyParticipant 902]

For me, all it took was buying a gun. Once I had the gun I knew ending it was an option any damn time I wanted.

No matter what happened, that gun would be there for me- ready to go.

After that, the depression just kind of got the volume turned way down.

"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR

[Anonymous 2]

MGTOW4life = not very long then eh?!

You’ve become too close to rich. It’s a state whereby you’ve fixed all your annoyances and you’re every whisper of need is catered for.

Just reach into your pocket, that will solve all your problems, right?

No.

Your problem is your life is all about you. You’re feelings, you’re concerns.

Rather than death, anything else! Even the unthinkable.

I’m happier broke. Life closer to the bone makes what comes your way grander.

Allow a group of us to take your cash ( a little at a time) and make it work for us and you. On a cash per accomplishment basis. Set up a MGTOW entertainment studio, where people learn about green screens and make epic MGTOW films and documentaries. Interviewing the heart of the gyno enemy. Get a recording studio, to make MGTOW music. Become the voice of reason and a new way for men and women to function in this world.

Or end it all because you couldn’t bear the weight of it. Taking ISIL with you like uchibenkei said.

[HawkeParticipant 197]

That´s just depression talking. I know beacuse I came across a lot with that bitch. It gives you tunnell vision and illusion there´s nothing to do with life. There is plenty of course but it seems invisible in that state.

When I used to be depressed in my early 20s I beat the crap out of depression – literally. Turned it into rage, started running and boxing everyday and depleting myself physically. Do it enough times in the row and depression won´t even have time to kick in. And never come back again. Maybe you´ll start to see much clearer picture than. Sure yeah every year has good days and s~~~ty days and sometimes hell lot more of s~~~ty days but that makes you just like every one of us.

I´m not going to tell you what to do. Everyone should have the freedom to call it when he has enough. But think about one thing – there always is someone who has it a lot worse and would rather exchange his life for yours. Second: you won´t get a second shot – ever. No respawn. So might as well see it to the end – we´re all here briefly anyways. Third: lot of young lads gave their lives willingly (let the 1944 Overlord landing be an example) so we could have the shot to live ours the best we could.

Btw. I understand your reasons I used to feel that way too but it could be always worse – you could have been a woman -> scariest thought ever xD Depression is just like a woman – it will slowly destroy you. So get rid of that whore and live your life.

Cheers

Qui audet adipiscitur - Who dares, wins

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

One of the problems about taking the Red Pill is that it’s a difficult process because you need to re-evaluate your life and come to terms with false pre-conceptions about yourself, life and your place in the world as a man.

It’s also normal for everyone to go through peroirds like this in their lifetime. It’s not exclusive to taking the Red Pill, i’ve been at my lowest in my Blue Pill days. Just remember that things always look darkest before dawn and they will eventually get better. Weather the storm and take care of yourself, but also find some outlets. I don’t think therapy is geared all that well for the male psyche. Getting out ond doing s~~~ to take your mind off things works a lot better. Also, work out if you don’t do so already.

I’ve come close to death three times in my life but only once did i genuninely think i was going to die when i took an accidental overdose.

I’ve also been so low in my life that i’ve considerend ending it all – If you ever get to this point, inbox me. Don’t become another stastistic for how the west doesn’t give a f~~~ about men’s lives, you’re better than that.

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