Why does it seem women age so poorly?

[BeerParticipant 11832]

@keymaster – You remind me a lot of myself.  From 18-28 I busted my ass working full time, sometimes a part time job as well, going to school, and working hard to pay a condo off early.  It was always the women who had a problem with that.  They ask what do you do for fun…I’d tell them the truth…well I work a lot and go to school so on my time off, which I don’t have a lot of, I don’t do anything fancy…go hiking with the dog, out for a pizza with the guys, just laid back relaxing s~~~.  “Oh.”..was the typical response…like I was supposed to spend money on fancy trips and expensive hobbies I couldn’t afford so I could entertain them.

Now I’m 31, and I’m making lots of money and don’t have many bills.  I’m literally at a point where 3-4 days at my job pays all my bills I have to pay just to live for a month, and anything past that I can do whatever the f~~~ I want with…sock it away for early retirement or totally f~~~ing waste!  Those same women are all buried with student loans, credit card debt, and car payments and are lucky if their monthly budget isn’t pushing them further into the hole.

The thing that makes me laugh though, is when platonic females…coworkers/friends/friends gfs/family members…its become pretty obvious over the last couple years I’m doing very well for myself…they come at me with comments like “Oh you can afford a wife now.”  F~~~ing serious?  You mean…I’m supposed to go chase after those same girls that thought I was unfun because I wasn’t living for the moment in my 20s, and now that they are all hitting the wall and come saddled with student loans, credit card debt, and car loans, I should be considering scooping one up?

Its amazing how modern women are too stupid to see that.  At least a couple generations back when people got married younger, you had your lady with you when you were working super hard to be successful, so when you got there it was with someone who was along for the whole ride.  Modern women…the only ride they are interested in is the c~~~ carousel, and when they hit that age they want to settle down, they can’t figure out why successful men aren’t interested in them.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

Funny you should say “Mountain”, she’s from the Berkshires, the other side of the valley. The local beach I drive past had three water buffalo in bikinis, they had to be 250 to 300 lbs., they were in their early 20’s. I can’t believe how fat chicks have become, it’s an epidemic! just another reason to be MGTOW, and around here it’s easy!

The good thing about all the retarded fat women who push that big beautiful woman s~~~ is they will all die of heart attacks at a young age, so we won’t have to listen to them long.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@beer

31? You realize that puts you RIGHT in the danger zone. This is the point when YOUR value has only BEGUN to ramp up… and hers is about to plunge. Rapidly. This is the short “window” where male / female SMV (sexual market value) appears to be “equal”… and if a guy is not careful, he can be seduced into allowing himself to be roped in.

He thinks: “S~~~ Im 31. About to start a new era. Established. Money enough to keep my figure. I look good. My options are wide open and 19 year olds want to f~~~ me now……”. Then a 19 year old sucks his c~~~ like nobody ever did – which he has been waiting 13 years for – and stupidly he now jumps on the first thing that appears to “love” him. Some desperate thirsty simps will even think “OMG she is the first girl who ever looked at me that way”… and WHAMMMO! the moron signs a life contract. Thats’ when she tosses her vagina away like the wedding bouquet and thinks “well, I won’t be needing THIS no more!”

MAJOR kudos to you for being aware of what’s going on.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Beer wrote:

“Oh you can afford a wife now.” F~~~ing serious? You mean…I’m supposed to go chase after those same girls that thought I was unfun because I wasn’t living for the moment in my 20s, and now that they are all hitting the wall and come saddled with student loans, credit card debt, and car loans, I should be considering scooping one up?

@beer, that’s exactly how I felt when I blew off the thought of a LTR, or TLR, or whatever else they name that bulls~~~! This gold digging s~~~ has been one of the side affects of feminism. This society’s endless nurturing of feminism now expects a reasonable man to settle down with some reamed out, mentally unstable, c~~~ carousel clown, combined with pro feminist marriage laws, it’s like an old leaky case of dynamite that can blow your life to smithereens!

Beer wrote:

The good thing about all the retarded fat women who push that big beautiful woman s~~~ is they will all die of heart attacks at a young age, so we won’t have to listen to them long.

No s~~~! I just found out the other day a FAT girl I knew is dead, she smoked and drank, but regardless, I know another woman that smoked and drank heavily, but wasn’t fat, and she’s dead too.

I’m betting men that avoid these kind of women (99.999%) live longer and happier lives. I know my life improved greatly when I smoked the thought of settling for today’s feminist diseased women.

[EnlightenedMGTOWParticipant 291]

I’m 22, work 7days/wk between a full-time job and a part-time week-end job. Also studying to take the GRE in a few months to apply for MBA programs in 2 years time. Like Keymaster, in his early 20’s, I don’t really go out and don’t have time for much else after work besides studying, cooking meals and the gym. My parents regularly ask when I’m going to get a gf and most of my “friends” have faded away since their idea of a good time is spending obscene amounts of money out at the clubs/bars on the week-ends. No thanks.

Great to see people like Beer, QuarterWave and Keymaster who busted their asses early on in their careers, ignoring the hate/ridicule/shaming and rising above all of those people in due time. Even though I have a long way to go to get to your guys’ level of success,  it seems I share this unshakeable vision the 3 of you had early on and continue to live by. Clearly it’s paid off for you guys and it only serves as further motivation. Thank You!

Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.

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EnlightenedMGTOW:

 

Thanks.  I guess it helped that I was an immigrant and came to Canada as a baby.  My parents and I had to work harder to prove ourselves.  I guess we must have done something right.

 

 

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Keep it up man.  Its well worth sacrificing a few years of your life working super hard to make the bulk of them better.  Those same people that are out blowing money clubbing every weekend will be getting smacked in the face with reality in a few years when they graduate and its time to start paying back their student loans.  I’ve never heard a debt free 30 year old regret working too hard in their 20s, but I’ve heard plenty of 30 year olds buried in debt complaining about it.

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Beer:

 

One thing I noticed while I was teaching was that the students who complained the loudest about how high their tuition was or why textbooks were so expensive often had the fanciest calculator and the latest cellphone, wore designer label clothes, and frequently drank fancy-schmancy coffee.  As well, they were the ones who insisted on having a “social life”, which often included going to movies, attending major-league games, and hanging out in trendy clubs.

 

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Yeah lol…its why I have no sympathy at all for people buried in student loans.  A few cutbacks in your standard of living for 4 or 5 years goes such a long way.  Ditch the 600 dollar smart phone ever year or two with a 120 dollar a month data plan for a 50 dollar slide or flip phone that will last for 4 or 5 years before the battery starts to get s~~~ty and a 40 dollar a month talk/text plan and you could easily save 1000 bucks a year or more.  Ditch the coffee stop every morning and make your own at home for a few dollars a week instead of 20-30 bucks a week…save yourself 50-100 bucks a month.  Give up one day every weekend to go pick up some extra hours and make 100 bucks working instead of going out and blowing 50 bucks…+600 a month.

You start making some changes like that, and you realize that for your average college student just being a little more disciplined and a giving up some stuff for a few years, they could  open up an extra 500-1000 dollars a month cash to put towards school.  Now consider the average student loan debt is around 30k…if the average student had an extra 500-1000 dollars a month spread out over a 4 year period they put towards school, they’d be able to throw 24-48k towards their bill…basically get through debt free if they want it bad enough.

But I’ve seen how your average college student thinks…loans are a number on a piece of paper when payments don’t start until after you graduate, and whatever income they have while they are students is all fun money.  Refusing to adopt this mentality is the best thing a young person can do for their future.  Its such a great feeling when going over your finances means checking how much your investments are growing instead of checking how much debt you have left to pay back before you are free.

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Beer:

 

Here’s another perspective.  I’ve had dental work done at the university student clinic, largely because it’s cheaper there than at a regular practice.

 

The last student who worked on my teeth was a clever young lady who did a good job on the two crowns that were put in.  We were chatting one day and she told me that she’ll have to charge a lot when she finally works for a living because she has a large debt load.

 

I bit my tongue.  The kid was smart enough to explain what was going on with my teeth but had absolutely no business sense whatsoever, let alone any concept of how the business world worked.  When one is in private practice, one can legally and properly offset a number of expenses related to the operation, particularly if one does it as a corporation.

 

One’s student debt isn’t one of them, and there are a number of reasons for that.  For one thing, not everyone who finishes a degree in a particular discipline will actually work in that field.  Why should those who do things that way have an unfair tax advantage over those who actually do put their degree into practice?  Another is that student loans aren’t related to the actual operation of the business or, for that matter, have nothing to do with being registered or licensed so one can’t claim them as an occupational expense.

 

Those loans are paid out of the normal profit one makes in one’s business and woe betide anyone if an auditor figures out that one’s income revenue is deliberately higher because of that.

 

Like you, I don’t feel sorry for students incurring large debts.  I spent 9 years between finishing my first master’s degree and starting my second because I wanted to have enough money on hand to resume my studies.  That meant I had to save and/or invest whatever cash I could to accomplish that.  I could have gone back much sooner but I was determined to pay for it out of my own pocket.  That required planning ahead and making the necessary arrangements.  If I had an extraordinary expense, it was because I absolutely had to make that expenditure.

 

Unfortunately, most students don’t see things that way.  They’ll soon find out they should have.

 

 

 

 

[Anonymous 9]

Bitchiness, and the use of cosmetics ruins natural beauty.

The cosmetic industry is worth over a billion dollars worldwide, but the wear and tear on a woman’s face is rarely acknowledged.

Then you factor in giving birth, along with smoking and drinking and there’s your recipe for aging. Heavy exercise also makes a women appear rather manly imo.

It’s funny because when I was on FB for a brief period I was amazed at how older former female classmates looked compared to some of the guys.

[AntaresParticipant 208]

There’s a c~~~tail of bad stuff that isn’t going well for women, and due to short sightedness they don’t care until it’s too late. But lately I’ve started to wonder if stress isn’t a big factor. Women in general are more unhappy than they’ve ever been, but have you ever noticed that some of the biggest emotional basket cases are the crazy and attractive women? Climb higher, fall harder.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Good question. They have a short window, but what a window it is. However, since many of them spend that window smoking, drinking, doing drugs and f~~~ing it really takes its toll.

Even the ones that don’t age poorly. Universal mystery, I guess.

Fuck this planet.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I have always held the following view, which is different than anyone else in this thread and I would like to hear your input:

Men and wonen physically experience one and the same aging process, but it is more favorable to men because it demonstrates qualities that are positive to men. Established, experienced, worldly, cultured, etc. No man seeks those attributes in a woman. I dont want an established and worldly pussy lol…wtf? Womens primary value is quite the contrary: young, nubile, “innocent” (if thats even possible in the species), fresh as a daisy. They start peaking and begin to slowly lose this appeal in their mid 20’s. But, when they are 18-24, their entire body is perky and they look as though they were built for the sole purpose is sex. Who wants a saggy, used up bitter c~~~?

I honestly would like to know a scietific study to discover if there is a proportional relationship between elderly women depression/misery and her beauty in her younger days.

Resident cynic.

[Anonymous 42]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Who wants a saggy, used up bitter c~~~?

Sir Wisdom, to answer that honestly, I’d say any group of two or more feminists, they’re like chickens, they’re birds of a feather, they naturally flock together, then henpeck each other into gynocentric hen house order!

Now their including obese women as sexy and attractive, while shamming totally hot bodied athletic creatures of female sexual attractiveness! What the f~~~’s next, frozen s~~~ is ice cream? Spinach is a red meat? Every day it gets more outrageous than the last!

[GrumpyParticipant]

Perhaps its just the internal ugliness making its way out? I have often heard that beauty is only skin deep.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[VictorParticipant 124]

Russky wrote:

That’s because every day they smear their faces and hair with all these chemicals

This is what I suspect as well, and I think most women are plain to begin with – there’s no ‘Wall’, as such. They have much the same physical flaws as men and are just using make-up/powder, and even clothes, to make themselves seem ‘pretty’.  It’s all false – much like metrosexual-type men who dress and apply cosmetics in a certain way, and adopt a certain ‘look’, in the belief this will attract women.  Women do this on a grand scale, routinely.  As they get older and the inevitable effects of aging sink in, that’s when all the self-abuse inflicts its price: the make-up, the promiscuous lifestyle, drink – and drugs in some cases – plus the stress of these plastic ‘careers’ that they take up now in lieu of child-bearing, all finally take their toll.  It’s cruel, but it’s Nature’s justice.

 

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