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With all my experiences with women including my mom. I came to one major conclusion, “Most women love controlling men”. Today I saw a new movie “Alexander….crazy, bad day”. It clearly show the main character the husband is a complete house husband, when their new baby speaks the first word he say “Faami”(mame) means father mame. Wife is totally dominant and husband is total house wife(female). This is huge social conditioning, when people keep seeing movies like this, boy’s/young men will think it’s ok to act like a faame/femaleMan. That’s why I am glad my next movie is be so brutal at showing how bad things are from MGTOW prescriptive.
What I want ask you is, why do women love controlling men so much. Is it in their DNA or is in learned. What do women get out of controlling men. Just want to know your point of view on this. My conclusion is, it does not matter to me because I am staying way from all women forever. I may speak to them once in a while for business reasons may be, but that it for me.
I came to one major conclusion, “Most women love controlling men”.
I absolutely agree. But! Deep in their hearts, they don’t “love” it. When they are permitted to do so… they are MISERABLE.
On the surface a woman will be very keen to have control and say over every aspect of a relationship. And you can bust your ass to make her happy for 16 years! Then you get this: She’s “Happily Married Dreaming of Divorce”.
The same woman will have a *problem* because you still greet her ungrateful aging ass with a SMILE in the morning – just because she prefers to behave like a complete bitch before 10AM. Those are her words. Then she will go on Oprah Magazine and CNN talking about how “happy” she is.. while inside, she is dying to divorce you. Then after 16 years, you get to read her mile-long list of diatribes about you online, as she talks about a “mid wife crisis” which is a “period of high-irritation” lasting 10-20 years. That’s more than 3X longer than the average marriage.
They don’t “LIKE” it at all. That’s why 50 Shades of Grey sold 150 Million Copies.
Women APPEAR to love to control men.
But if you let her, she will resent the living s~~~ out of you.When women “control” men – no matter how much they appear to love it – she is testing to see if you will let her. Of course, if you DO NOT let her, she will hate you too. Except, she will still have sex with you. Allowing a woman to control him is a man’s way of relinguising his power and saying “OK if you love me, I will give you want you want”. But that’s what she will start hating him for.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Wow, thank you KeyMaster, very insightful, I never looked at this way. What’s sad is either way, man loses, unless he stay’s away from ever getting involved(there may be exceptions) which is true MGTOW way. Thanks for your feedback.
I used to say “yes” all the time untiI realized I was not respected for this.
Then I learned the word “no” (much too late in life) and they hate me for that too.But at least they RESPECT me for it.
I heard a man once say: “Have the b~~~~ to let a woman HATE you. It means you’re doing everything RIGHT.”
It’s a phrase I repeat to myself regularly.
A lot of men are terrified of that.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Thank you KeyMaster, lately I have started saying no and they hate me for it and I don’t care. It feel’s great to be fearless of what women might think of me. I will use your advice. Let them hate me for saying no. Thanks.
Don’t just “let” them hate you. ENJOY it.
Smiles. And have an excellent weekend.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Yes, I will enjoy it and smile about it. Thanks, have a fantastic weekend.
It’s mainly biological: MEN evolved to protect females, to hunt for them and to take care of them. Females evolved to take care of childs and to take protection and usefulness from MEN.
Our actual society teach females to be narcissist, so they are far beyond: females literally exploit MEN.
A female cannot care about a MAN. Even in female fantasies about female-dominated societies the main theme is always the same: more and more exploitation of MEN. It’s not about more sex for females, it’s just only about more chastity for MEN in order to use their sexual-drive energies to benefits the females – it’s not very different from female prostitution: a prostitute wants money for sex, a dominatrix wants A LOT of services for sex. MEN fantasies are about f~~~ a lot of females, not about exploit females: the image of an harem is a place where females are lazy, and females lives comfortable lifes, and they’re even free to perform lesbian sex – that doesn’t seems exploitation to me.
Thanks Eric, thats a good explanation. It feel’s like a business transaction. Women use sex to get as much as they can from men. Men fall for that crap and then later realize that I am not getting what I paid for, all I am getting is same old sex, nothing more and risk losing it all in a divorce(which happened to me). Make’s perfect sense. I am keeping my time, effort, money and buying some thing that is much more valuable then sex, I will create my dream life and enjoy it without any women taking it from me again.
Our biology – both females and MEN biology – is very good, very successfull, in a natural environment. It’s an almost perfect combination, in NATURE.
But nowadays we live in a more complex, technological environment. Our society, in fact, teach to females to be even more primitive and narcissistic, totally deresponsabilized: that’s good for them in the short run, but it can be literally lethal for females in the long run, because nowadays, thanks to their absolute narcissism, the major part of females are ALREADY useless for MEN, at least in western world, and, of course, apart from for the reproduction of the species. Now some misandric extremists, galvanized by recent scientifical discoveries, wonders about a world without MEN, but in fact a similar world would be a nightmare for females: a world without MEN to exploit 🙂 When artificial wombs will be reach, the entire paradigm will shift…and even not so far in future, when the educational gender gap will led more females to better economic positions, they will be sad: most of them are genetically programmed for hypergamy, but when a female is rich hypergamy is very difficult to reach 🙂 much more females than MEN will be drived by their istincts towards homosexuality, lesbians, in order to reach their hypergamic dream, but soon they’ll discover that another female is not easy to exploit like a MAN is 🙂
On the long run discriminations and hyper-responsabilization will reinforce MEN, de-responsabilization will weaken females. Females will be more and more childish, narcissists, lazy, liars, pedophiles, killers of childs, whiners…
MEN are now at a crucial point of human evolution, we have to rid out of our primitive istincts about protection of females, and concentrate ourselves in improve ourselves in order to fullfilling OUR desires, OUR expectations, OUR goals.
When the moment will come, maybe a lot of females will grovel to MEN, asking excuses. Many of them will lie, as usually they do when they’re under check 🙂 What will happen then? I don’t know and I don’t care: I don’t care anymore about the fate of females. 🙂
Eric. If you edit your posts… you can UNCHECK the box labeled “keep a log of this edit” which will not post multiple copies of your avatar underneath. Just a friendly tip if you make repeat changes.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You made great points Eric, at the end of the day you are right, it does not really matter what happens to female’s. I am happy to be free forever from female’s. I am saving so much time, money, energy by doing what I love without female’s distracting with their constant drama, negativity and needy controlling bull carp. Who care what happens to female’s they chose their fate by acting the way they act, men have nothing to do with how female’s act.
Women say they want a dominant man until she doesn’t want to be told what to do, she has a nice guy who respect her and she considers him weak because she can control him. Women are never happy. I think the control aspect comes from women doing what they need to in order to get the mate they want and have them and their children taken care of. I have heard that many women like 50 shades of grey because they secretly have a rape fantasy. I think it all goes back to the early days of mankind where a woman most likely needed to accept a man having sex with her because he found someone to reproduce with. Her inhibitions needed to not cloud her from turning down the mating so she would naturally need to want to be forced to have sex in insure the survival of the human race even if it was only on a sub conscience level. Also considering how basic early human life was it would be needed that women could easily be trusted to do tasks while the men were way hunting. So by women liking to be controlled by men the men could say take care of the children and gather berries while we hunt and since women would want that then the men could hunt be know their children were safe and food would be gathered.
In our current society though with women having so many opportunities I think they don’t know what to do nor our their minds meant for it. They want to go to school, have jobs, be able to take care of their children, have a guy who is nice, they want a guy who is dominant, they want to have money, they want to have all the newest things as well. It is like women’s brains are programmed to want everything and it is men’s job to put them in their place with what they need given the situation. However given how society is now that idea hasn’t seemed to evolve well lol.
Thanks Bard, great wise words. So true.
With all the technology we have today and modern convinces, Sure that is a driving factor for women controlling things. But one thing that has seriously damaged society and granted control to women is the laws that we have enacted to protect them from us. I feel like the laws that we have put in place to insure equality places an advantage to the recipients of that protection. I feel like at the current state of justice today, there will never be any reversals in women gaining control over man. This mgtow and feminist movements need to confront each other in a very public way. These issues here need to be brought to the forefront to begin a healing of our society. Until this is done women will continue to gain power over men. At least that is the way it feels like to me.
“Have the b~~~~ to let a woman HATE you. It means you’re doing everything RIGHT.”
I wish someone told Me that when I was 18. At that age, I naively ALWAYS wanted a Woman to accept Me and never wanted to make them “Hate Me”. I remember this one time I said something to a Girl I knew (which was an honest statement about Her acting like a Slut) She said: “She hated me, and said she’ll never forgive me”. I couldn’t handle the fact that a Female would be angry at me, because I was taught to “respect a girls feelings”, (s~~~ I now later laugh at, because that’s a Croc of S~~~).. So I drove 2 hours……2 hours!!!…yes i drove 2 hours…. Just to apologize to this Girl.
Guess what she did?, she ended up throwing Her Ice Tea at Me that She was holding when She answered the door, saying “You’re a f~~~ing idiot, Don’t even talk to Me again”. So not only did I waste gas, but I smelled like Lipton tea and drove back wet. A Valuable lesson was learned on that day.
- Women will get p~~~ed no matter what
- nothing we can do will change it
- don’t give a f~~~ and accept it
It took Me years to accept a Woman hating Me. In junior High My Brother and I worked at a Carnival during the Summers to get some extra cash, so years later when I went to visit My folks, I went to see the Carnival. This girl with a bitchy look on her face was working the front ticket booth, So I explained to Her that I use to work there and how excited I was to see the place still running. I found out a few weeks later
“She was offended by what You said, Because it came across as creepy”….
UMM…WTF?????. That was the turning point for Me, more like the “F~~~ IT” point in My Life. I said to myself “Just let the bitches hate”.
I now get a kick out of it when some Females get “Offended” or “Hate Me”. It’s f~~~ing hilarious sometimes.
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
Deus: “When did please leave ever work?” hahahahahahaha man, hilarious! yeah, the women now have a whole barrage of verbal weapons since the older ones figured out how to file fake charges on us just to f~~~ up our lives. Pitiful. Anyway, “offended” “creepy” are big buzzwords to them and the worst phrase I’ve heard lately is “he was making me uncomfortable.” Any girl using those phrases should be avoided at all costs because those are all LAWSUIT CODE WORDS. I’m sure other mgtow have heard the same thing you did and there are many many more. It is sad but true that modern women just cannot be trusted at all. They have taken their whole gender down the sewer and blamed me for it. What a bunch of bulls~~~.
Anonymous11Keymaster, your point about women not really wanting to control men is spot on. I think this attempting control thing is part of their damn convoluted s~~~ test system. You get controlled then you fail, and maybe you become an orbiting Mangina place holder while she waits for her alpha should you allow it. There are exceptions who do like to really control men though such as the ones with Borderline personality disorder or brainwashed true feminists so we have to watch out for these types of harrigans.
I’m going to offer up for case study the biggest Mangina that I personally know. He used to slay the babes(Love that word, don’t you you feminazis) back in high school. He was totally in control and everyone both male and female respected him. Then he met his current wife at about age 20. Over time she has incrementally reduced him into a husk of his former self. He does not work anymore, but she brings home the six figure bacon while he dances to her tune.
His wife and her sister currently have him raising two of his wife’s whore niece’s illegitimate children. The oldest is 20 odd months and then the second one is around four months old. Yes, Mr. Mangina diaper changing mom is what he is tending the results of what happens when the cut and run alpha studs deposit their seed into his wife’s niece. Actually, the kids are better off with him as babymama is a stripper and the babydaddys are God knows what or where. The oldest even calls him “Daddy”. Our social circle is in awe of how low our friend has sunk.
His wife will reward him with cars etc… as long as he obeys every one of her commands. She is a maximum feminist too. It’s so bad that a mutual friend related a recent story where they were in a fast food restaurant trying to eat where he called her for permission in order to get something to eat with his friends. Of course, she said no, and he sat there watching his two other friends eat. I had a face plant moment over that one. Even in my blue pill days, I never would have stooped that low.
I think most women are as Keymaster stated not really wanting to control men to the Nth degree, but there is a segment that loves to control men. Beware as you have now been warned. This feminist version of equality that gets pumped 24/7/365 is a total crock. Equality it’s not. It’s more like revenge with a touch of evil thrown in for good measure.
Oh no, to be clear…. it helps to understand women’s need for control another way:
On the surface, women have no problem SAYING they like malleable, controllable, “likable”, obedient gentlemen… and they behave as if they like to have control in their personal relationships. But deep in their hearts, when they GET a man like that, THEY ARE MISERABLE an unfulfilled.
THE 4 KEY QUALITIES:
• Unpredictable
• Uncontrollable
• Challenging
• DominantMen who are NONE of these, are resigned to their fates of forever jerking off, and “finishing last” as a “nice guy” always does. But men who demonstrate all 4 of those qualities are the ones women will say they HATE. But they are also the first guy she f~~~s – because he’s the guy she can’t control. So that’s what “have the b~~~~ to let a woman HATE you.” means. It means you’re doing everything RIGHT.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“When did please leave ever work?”
Too true Bud,
I was at a Nightclub once with some buddies of Mine and this ditzy looking bimbo comes up to Me and flat out says “Hey, I have some friends coming over to meet Me here, can you pretend to be my boyfriend for a couple of hours?”…again, I politely said “No, I already have friends here and sorry but I can’t help You”.
This is when the 7 year old in Her, started to manifest and rear it’s ugly head. She started to get Whinny, and act absolutely dumb in front of everyone, I honestly thought Aston Kutcher was somewhere waiting to pop out and say “Gotcha”. I even told the Girl,
“Please leave me alone” a good 4 or 5 times before I finally got up and walked away….It was f~~~ing embarrassing!.
By the way, Chauvanistpig, that story you wrote about your buddy was painful to read. I knew guys in College who were total bad asses only to find out later when they got married, turned into total slaves. I even knew a guy who would answer to His Wife when She would Whistle at Him- whenever she needed something….Let that sink in for a moment….Whistle….like a f~~~ing Dog.
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
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