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Who would not discuss those who hold the lion share of power in a given society. How else would one gain and understanding of what is to come?
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

Anonymous1It’s simple:
1. Women have declared war on men. And to quote Sun Tzu: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
2. Women are like a harmful bacteria that can infect you. Only through careful study can men find an antibiotic to cure themselves of the infection.
3. Knowledge is power, and it needs to be shared.
MGTOW don’t hate women – we understand women. Big difference. The bible verse “resist not evil” comes to mind. Or “Whatever you resist, persists.” Its true that if we just sat around saying “women suck” that would not be productive. We would just end up drowning in hate and women would live rent-free in our heads. But we don’t do that. We understand women – we discuss:
(a) who they are
(b) what they want
(c) why they want it
Once we’ve done that, we’ve taken the red pill and are no longer living in fantasy – we’re living in reality.“Any time you renounce something, you give it power. You give it as much power as you are using to fight it. When you walk into a dark room, you don’t fight the darkness with your fists. You turn on the light. But the more you fight the darkness, the more real it becomes to you. The solution is not to merely renounce things, but to UNDERSTAND THEM – see them in their true light. See them for what they are really worth. Then you won’t need to renounce them. They’ll just drop.”
Anthony DeMelloWhy vegans are so obsessed with meat?
MGTOW don’t hate women – we understand women. Big difference. The bible verse “resist not evil” comes to mind. Or “Whatever you resist, persists.” Its true that if we just sat around saying “women suck” that would not be productive. We would just end up drowning in hate and women would live rent-free in our heads. But we don’t do that. We understand women – we discuss:
(a) who they are
(b) what they want
(c) why they want it
Once we’ve done that, we’ve taken the red pill and are no longer living in fantasy – we’re living in reality.“Any time you renounce something, you give it power. You give it as much power as you are using to fight it. When you walk into a dark room, you don’t fight the darkness with your fists. You turn on the light. But the more you fight the darkness, the more real it becomes to you. The solution is not to merely renounce things, but to UNDERSTAND THEM – see them in their true light. See them for what they are really worth. Then you won’t need to renounce them. They’ll just drop.”
Anthony DeMelloJust to recall a basic fact: Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple.
First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women. Only men experience rape as sexual and define it as such. Sex for men is the unilateral penetration of their penis into a woman (or anything else replacing and symbolising the female orifice) whether she thinks she wants it or not – which is the definition of rape: that he will to do it anyway and that he uses her and treats her as a receptacle, in all circumstances – it makes no difference to him experiencing it as sexual. That is, at the very least, men use women as useful objects and instruments for penetration, and women are dehumanised by this act. It is an act of violence.
https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/
Before we do anything, the very first measure to adopt is to take all men out of all positions of decision-making immediately, and actually out of any kind of social, professional position whatsoever.
Major serial killers, serial torturers, pimps, pornographers, severe domestic abusers, serial rapists, genocide planners, biocide planners and pedocriminals across the world will simply be euthanised: the decisions will be taken by women in a mass world tribunal for patriarchal crimes. This is by far the best solution, and is the most legitimate, ethical way of reducing male population to more reasonable levels. Such men would otherwise forever pose a threat to women, children, animals, the earth and society as a whole, and we know they have no chance of ceasing their violent behaviour after having reached such an advanced stage of sadism and sociopathy. It would be reckless to spend space, resources and energy in keeping them alive in prisons.
All of men’s (alive and euthanised) belongings, property, resources and land will be confiscated from men and handed back to female care and supervision – property rights over land will be abolished. You can’t own land!
All men at least above 15 (or younger if very asocial) should live separately from women and children, on their own in small huts or studios, isolated from one another and scattered around so that women can keep an eye on them (they should never be in groups or packs, that would be illegal). So it would also be illegal for male adults to impose their presence on females, girls and children. Men would have to care for themselves on their own: food, laundry, etc. No male above his age of puberty would be allowed to receive any kind of service from a female. Their life expectancy would probably drop to the age of 40, but that’s how things should be. Women’s life expectancy without men would rise to 130 years at least.
PIV would be illegal too of course, as well as the initiation of any verbal or physical contact to women and girls or boy children, unless solicited by a woman for specific matters. I’m not sure what to do about boy children. Obviously you know my opinion, but let’s say that’s up to the mother to decide what she wants to do before he turns of age to leave the female family circle.
In order to keep all men and post-pubescent boys busy, we’d send them to clean up the vast amounts of detritus, pollution and toxic wastes men have littered and almost killed the world with. Much of the damage to the earth is irreversible, however with a great deal of effort and genius, women will find sustainable, natural and simple ways of healing a lot of the damage men have caused, and send men off to do the dirty work. No man will be allowed to take any decision without female guidance. We know what happens when men decide on their own! DISASTER.
Family, child-raising and reproduction
Fathers’ rights will cease to exist. There is no such thing as fatherhood — as we all know, it’s a myth. Men will necessarily lose all and any power to dominate and control women’s reproductive capacities.
It’s the inalienable right of each woman to control every phase of her reproduction and life creation. Abortion will be possible at any stage of pregnancy, however there will hardly be such a thing as undesired pregnancy since there won’t be any men forcing pregnancies on us any more. Abortion will nonetheless be recognised for the trauma, mutilation and loss of life that it is. The number of children and human population will naturally decrease to sustainable levels, so will the number of males born. Women will be free to experiment parthenogenesis or procreation with two female eggs.
The nuclear family will be abolished, in particular the parent’s property rights and absolute power over her child. Children will be considered as persons in need for autonomy and all form of punishment, authority or educational manipulation over children will equally be abolished. Raising and caring for children will be a collective responsibility for women, and motherhood / childcare and especially capacity to be empathetic towards children will be taken very seriously, as something that needs to be (re)learned and studied over years before being fully competent for this immense task.
https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Simple: They make up 51% of the world population. Kind of hard to dismiss the majority…
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Why do MGTOW talk about women so much
Ahh duh, because this is a forum.
I hardly think about them at all outside of this environment.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Why do women constantly complain about their boyfriends/husbands? Or that they can’t find a ‘good’ man?
When they do it, it’s ‘therapeutic’; when we do it, it’s ‘whining’. Another one of their double standards.
This is one of the few places one can speak openly of the wretches known as modern women.
Exactly. We have one place. They have damn near all of the media and their White Knight orbiters who support them. The latter hanging around like vultures waiting to get in their pants.
The word needs to get out. Young men need to know what awaits them.
Women are always bitching that men don’t get in touch with their emotions. What they don’t tell you is that it’s the emotions that help them: empathy, sympathy, etc. The others: anger, indignation, etc. simply won’t do as it’s of no help to them.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, they have some mental disorder that makes them blind to their own double standards and hypocrisy.
I will not ‘man up’.
I will not ‘grow up’.
I will not ‘do other bulls~~~ society thinks I should do’.F~~~ it. Let it burn.
Fuck this planet.Eric was it a woman that wrote that nutty female utopia article. Sweet Sejenus. Nuts. Crunchy nuts at that. We talk about women so the facts can get heard not this nutty f~~~ing s~~~ that women write.
It’s the inalienable right of each woman to control every phase of her reproduction and life creation. Abortion will be possible at any stage of pregnancy, however there will hardly be such a thing as undesired pregnancy since there won’t be any men forcing pregnancies on us any more.
Apparently we force pregnancy on women!? I seem to remember my bitch basically forcing me to get her pregnant especially with my second child. I thought it was a good idea at the time. As a matter of fact every guy I know who has kids it was the women’s idea.
Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.
Why do women constantly complain about their boyfriends/husbands? Or that they can’t find a ‘good’ man?
When they do it, it’s ‘therapeutic’; when we do it, it’s ‘whining’. Another one of their double standards.This is why I love having this site where I can have fellowship with other men, and find out that things I experienced and observed with women were not unique experiences. That it was not something about me.
The last serious relationship I was in, after my divorce, she told me fairly detailed stories about her multiple divorces/husbands. I offered empathy, and compassion and understanding, and it was legitimate. I truly felt for some of the things she went through.
I didn’t talk about my divorce, and she never asked. But one night I decided to open up a little. I didn’t say much, just a brief mention that my wife had lied, cheated and stole, and that it was painful to me.
It took me less than 2 minutes to tell the brief story.DO you know what she said?
There was no empathy or understanding. There was no “I am sorry you went through that, and I am glad you told me so I can understand where you are coming from emotionally etc.”Nope.
She made some comment about whining. About how her friends had to tell her to stop whining about her divorce.
Her point was clear as day. I was simply whining to her.
I never told her anything more, and I only regret I didn’t get up and walk out.They feel no empathy for a man’s pain.
In fact mankind had already done that through the various religion and great thinkers. It is not coincidental that various religion of various race in the whole world say the same thing. They had seen the damages women had done and lay down the rules to minimize damages cause by women. After women behave, the later generation forgot about the evils of women and changes the rules and here we are, warning the evils of women, we go full circle again.
Thanks, Gnostic
I was just starting to read your link no. 2:
http://biblereasons.com/evil-women-and-bad-wives/
It reads like our forum…
I always compare KM to Moses. Why?
MGTOW is like the NEW Bible for men. The book of life. KM is the “editor”…
MGTOW is nothing new… Only it’s name is now a computer-age compatible “catchphrase”.
We could also call ourselves:
“Men Rediscovering Bible Wisdom”
We are just lifting old wisdom, once buried by feminist indoctrination back to the surface (and the conscience) of the world.
Or why do we cause the feminists to behave like wasps going after the little boy pinching a hole into their nest?
For young guys that would never even consider reading the bible, we are becoming a “modern day and age” replacement. The Bible was also compiled from the wisdom collected by numerous authors and over a long time span.
Reminds me a lot of this forum here. And our “Top-Gun” section will one day be reprinted as “The Book Of Rules” in the year 4324.
Asking the question “why we talk about women so much” is like asking a priest why he talks about the Bible so much.
We are modern day priests. Saving men’s lives like priests should do.
And if we would “get through” we would also improve lives for women. They are only so miserable and bad tempered because they are “let loose = unchecked” and have “hatred = feminsim” as their only guide in life.If a real professional priest would say these things out loud that are actually CONTAINED in the bible, they would tear him off of his stand, call the cops, handcuff him and remove him from his church.
So, that is why WE HAVE TO FILL in the blanks.
The “real” church is now too cucked to speak up.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
We have no hate for them and as a base line, do care for them as humans.
But when you live amongst a tyrant that fears and envies you, one obsesses over strategy with your brothers in arms.
"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock
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