Why do citizens of the United States have a Memorial Day holiday?

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    That would’ve helped their morale and the post-war healing process.

    and is a society that honored what men did for their family, their community and nation, this welcome would have been present regardless of the settlement status.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    If only they could have lived to see these times…

    It’s much better than they did not as my Father became bitter of those he felt dishonored both his service, as well as all this other comrade in arms. US or foreign, alive or dead, they were his brothers in arms until the day he passed away.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    don’t have any freedoms.

    Oh but you do, you may not be happy with present circumstances in your life, buy you do not live in a third world country where freedoms truly do not exist unless you are of the right party, religion or social family.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    is the beginning of our efforts to keep secure the freedoms they fought and died for:

    Absolutely Romulus, I could not have said it better myself … in fact, I did not say it to begin with. Thank you sir and hopefully others will feel the same.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    is the beginning of our efforts to keep secure the freedoms they fought and died for:

    Absolutely Romulus, I could not have said it better myself … in fact, I did not say it to begin with. Thank you sir and hopefully others will feel the same.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    That may have been the first time I felt the emotion of empathy.

    Having served in several such parades and recognition efforts Tower, I agree with you. As with Taps, there are very few more moving or stiring events to witness.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    The current “National Holidays” recognized within the United States of America were established by Congress in recognition of events which allow for “patriotic celebration” and are only applicable to federal employees and the District of Columbia. Individual states decide which, if any, legal holidays they recognize.

    Each National Holiday highlights a specific aspect of the American heritage that molded the United States as a people and a nation. While some may be considered holdovers from the United Kingdom or other European nations, the majority are patently not. The first four were New Year’s Day, Independence Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day. In 1885, Congress began to extend holiday coverage to federal employees outside Washington.

    Decoration Day (now Memorial Day) was approved in 1888 and allowed federal employees to pay their respects to those soldiers that lost their lives in the American Civil War. While there were many wars and conflicts prior to 1888, (the War of 1812, American Indian Wars, the Mexican-American War, and expansion conflicts within Texas and the Far East), most federal employees at this time had firsthand knowledge / experience with the American Civil War and those service members who had just recently lost their lives.

    Regardless of opinions as to why it was created, this specific holiday allowed federal employees to honor slain soldiers, often relatives and friends, who gave their lives in armed conflict without losing a day’s pay. Pay, if nothing else, allowed everyone eligible to participate in this holiday without acknowledging one side or the other.

    The original intent of Memorial Day was different from “Armistice Day” which was created in 1938 to mark the close of World War I hostilities. In 1954, the scope of this holiday was broadened to honor Americans who fought in World War II and the Korean conflict, and the name of the holiday was changed to Veterans Day.

    As a recognized American ethos, honoring those who gave their lives to ensure state, national and international interests dates back to the beginning of recorded history. There are certainly MGTOW.com members who disagree in the value of armed conflict, or the political decisions that authorize (or not) it’s use, but every nation in the world has similar recognitions for their respective fallen service members.

    Even if one does not keep the memories of service members, their actions or the actions of their respective nation alive on this specific day, everyone enjoys getting paid to not work, or receive some type of stipend/compensation for working.

    With this in mind, Happy Memorial Day to all who choose to honor those military and civilian members who went their own way and paid the ultimate price for doing so.

    I’m of the opinion that it’s for PR purposes. The Federal Government should have a day of recognition for dead soldiers who fight for the American people.

    Though WWII would be more in line with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. For a holiday such as Memorial Day.

    The modern history books don’t record how unpopular the civil war was. In that generation.

    So Arlington national cemetery was designated a holy site. PR representatives could point to the graves and say. “This is how far the Federal Government will go. To preserve the sacred United States.” Then US citizens chests’ would fill with pride.

    In his speeches, Lincoln was obsessed with preserving the Union. At the same time Southern States must be subservient to Federal policies. Even if those policies impoverished the Southern local economies.

    Southern States before and after the revolution. Were raw material exporters. Cotton, Rice, Indigo, etc.

    Federal government policies at the time. Were in trade wars with other European powers over finished industrial products.

    Northern Industrial interests wanted cheap access to raw materials. So legislation was put forth to depress prices on Southern materials. This was the main reason cited by the Southern States for leaving the USA.

    Lincoln in his stump speeches promised to send all the blacks back to Africa. He had no interest in recognizing human dignity in black people.

    In his writings, he consistently referred to blacks as sub human. He was as racist and tyranical as any modern day national socialist.

    He locked up editors who were critical of his policies. He inflated the money supply through central banking to fund the unpopular war. Poor whites in the North. Were rounded up in press gangs. To serve as cannon fodder to incompetent Northern commanders. Those commanders were only in the position. Because they didn’t mind sucking off Lincoln.

    After the war both sides were devestated. The New England States had The Metropolis New York city. Which was an area where a new immigrant could earn a living relatively quickly. After leaving ship.

    So the Federal government got more sway with the new arrivals. With the help of a holiday like Memorial day.

    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

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    I’m of the opinion that it’s for PR purposes.

    Agreed, any action that politicians and the federal government perform is to “inform” and “sway/manipulate” their constituents. Positive or negative, the purpose is to obtain enough votes to remain in office as long as possible.

    Easy money is always a draw. Not working, or being paid to not work always has a positive effect of potential voters.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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    When I was younger, much younger, around 12, my grandmother took me to the tomb of the unknown soldier in Arlington. While not on Memorial day, just a regular day, it is always what I think of on Memorial day.

    Watching the honor, the respect, the precision, of that site… the fields of tombstones, just the overwhelming feeling of what was happening there… has stuck with me.

    There is a saying or phrase I can’t quite remember now… something about judging a people by how they treat their dead…

    Anyway, that is what I think of on memorial day. The fact that so many have given so much for us here in the US to remain what we were, not are, but were. Perhaps we can get back there someday. At least some of us, who were not honored enough to have been able to serve, can remember.

    No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

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    something about judging a people by how they treat their dead…

    I have also hear quotes like this as related to children, animals, the elderly, etc.

    Cultural survival can be summed up in several words, one of which is “Respect.”

    If you do not respect what others have done for you, especially when you did not ask for their assistance, then you are on a downwards spiral.

    ​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

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