Why did Georgia offer Delta tax breaks anyhow?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Why did Georgia initial offer Delta tax breaks on fuel oil?
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/28/nra-boycott-georgia-threatens-delta-airlines-tax-breaks

Gun control side is putting economic pressure on businesses, in light of the Florida school shooting. Delta decided to pull support of the NRA, and discounts for the members. Georgia legislature is discussing pulling tax breaks for Delta, in response, to restore the member benefits.

My question here is: Why the hell is Georgia offering the tax breaks? I understood that Delta said that the fuel tax costs were high, and Delta is based in Atlanta. Delta could up and leave and go elsewhere. So, why did Georgia offer the tax breaks to begin with? I understand states and local governments offer tax breaks, if they feel they are at a disadvantage to draw in business. So, is that why?

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[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22548]

Atlanta has one of the largest and busiest airports in the world. Much of Delta is based in the Atlanta airport.

The tax cut was to sweeten the pot, as a way of saying “thank you” for staying in Georgia.

To be fair, Delta as a airliner company has an excellent track record for safety, along with good pay and benefits for their workers.

Unfortunately, some of those running Delta forget it is an election year and they thought they could to some virtue signaling by the dropping of the NRA corporate 10% discount on using Delta airlines. Though, this is only dealing with the top level NRA members, a few hundred. Not the millions of normal NRA members.

You need to understand that Georgia is one of the most pro-gun ownership states in the nation. The Georgia politicians are not going to risk crossing Georgia gun owners on a election year, because they risk being voted out. So, the Georgia state government dropped the tax break for Delta.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Since when do governments EVER do a tax cut of any sort as a “thank you”? Show me one example of the IRS saying to anyone, “Thank you for paying less taxes”. Taxes get cut to draw in business, or to prevent a business from leaving. The NFL played this with a number of cities, keeping an NFL team out of Los Angeles, in order to force cities to build new stadiums, etc…

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[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22548]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Since when do governments EVER do a tax cut of any sort as a “thank you”?

When the company in question pays a lot of money in taxes and local government wants that company to stay there.

Keep in mind this is state politics and not federal politics. State politics are far quicker and more sensitive to various shifts in the local politics and economics.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Faust For Science wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Since when do governments EVER do a tax cut of any sort as a “thank you”?

When the company in question pays a lot of money in taxes and local government wants that company to stay there.

Keep in mind this is state politics and not federal politics. State politics are far quicker and more sensitive to various shifts in the local politics and economics.

I think we can assume that the company in question is paying more taxes because either they are producing more taxable revenue than other companies or they are s~~~ty at avoiding taxes.

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[RemovedParticipant 4676]

It is more of a, I scratch your back; you scratch my back. These companies, BMW in South Carolina, Delta in Georgia, do these deals, and make donations to the campaigns of the person that pushed this deal in, or push to help whatever policy idea. This is just another way of corporate corruption, in which we are pawns in a scheme of who gets the money and power.

[joetechParticipant]

Atlanta is as big a hub for Delta as L.A. is for other airlines. If you live in the Piedmont and die and go to heaven, you have to go through Atlanta to get there. Everyone knows that. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that Delta is getting tax breaks from Georgia. Look at the tax breaks Washington State gives to Boeing.

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[narwhalParticipant]

The official reason will be because giving Delta tax breaks will brings in jobs. I wouldn’t say it’s a thank you as much as it’s a “don’t take your jobs elsewhere”

I would think this would happen more at the city and county level than at the state. Any decent size company is going to contact the local government to see what sort of tax breaks they can get if they relocate their business to their area. Large companies, like Amazon, are certainly going to get some nice breaks.

On some level, it looks like it’s no benefit to the voters for this sort of thing to happen, but that may not be true. A large company does bring in jobs and stir the local economy. It can bring in additional businesses to support it all. It can definitely be a good thing.

But it is a slippery slope. Where’s the line between go for the people and political corruption? On the other side, what about the danger of corporations using their size and economic strength to force government policy? We now have Walmart and Dicks deciding no one under 21 should buy a guy, even though the legal age is 18. How is that a good thing?

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

But it is a slippery slope. Where’s the line between go for the people and political corruption? On the other side, what about the danger of corporations using their size and economic strength to force government policy? We now have Walmart and Dicks deciding no one under 21 should buy a guy, even though the legal age is 18. How is that a good thing?

In a lot of ways, corporations are as powerful as governments and actually affect everyday life and decisions as much as governments.

Home owner associations act like governments. Binding arbitration clauses pigeonhole people into unfavorable positions of power and circumvents the court system. Want to buy a good or service: give up your rights.

Government is to a large extend controlled by corporations, and yet very few people bat an eye when a corporation suppresses free speech, simply because they are not government, when the actual effect is the same or worse than if the government did it.

About the only time people give a s~~~ about the government infringing on free speech is when they infringe on some corporation’s “free speech”.

We are long past the point where the whole corporate-personhood thing has jumped the shark. It didn’t just “jump the shark”. It jumped a robotic shark through a flaming hoops with arcing Tesla coils.

Kelo vs City of New London court decision is just ONE example of how corporations in America have jumped the shark. The power of corporations like Facebook and Google to suppress the political speech of MILLIONS of people is another.

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[narwhalParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

Government is to a large extend controlled by corporations, and yet very few people bat an eye when a corporation suppresses free speech, simply because they are not government, when the actual effect is the same or worse than if the government did it.
About the only time people give a s~~~ about the government infringing on free speech is when they infringe on some corporation’s “free speech”.

Those two statements contradict each other. Do people care about corporations and free speech, or do they not?

Regardless, I don’t have a problem with corporations censoring speech in their social media properties. Facebook, twitter, youtube, can censor all they want. I don’t even care if CNN censors it’s news. The problem I have is that they hide and lie about it. T

The problem is that the masses are way too trusting of their media sources. Way too quick to judge. Way to lazy to think or check up on sources. That does seem to be slowly changing though, in a way. People are doubting the truth of what they are told through media, yet are still very unwilling to question their established beliefs.

Ok. Then do it.

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