Why are you here? (Video)

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Messenger Rising did this video, that I feel is worth watching:

 

Only thing regarding this, is if just dealing with the hurt is all MGTOW is going to be about, and once over the hurt, everything else will sort itself out.  I am not sure that will be true for all men though.  Does just hanging around Red Pill Rage be all that what MGTOW is about?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 18]

I believe the source of red pill rage is the soul of mgtow.

Without recognizing the extreme negative effects of love/marriage there is no real reason for a man to GHOW other than a natural incline to be indifferent to women regardless of one’s experience with women. It is a lifestyle/conscious effort.

How many guys here will turn down an attractive pussy begging to be f~~~ed without having at least one burn in their books? Men find mgtow, not the other way around. Its good to have that bitter taste in one’s mouth and never forget the lessons learned the hard way. Pussy allure under the right circumstances, under the right moment is stronger than any amount of wisdom I have read here. Call me weak minded.

Mgtow is positive rechanneling of otherwise very strong emotions. They dilute overtime. And perhaps it gives validity to feminists labelling mgtow as bitter, hurt beings. Dig deep enough, most of us will always harbor that rage. Perhaps repress it or even forget it. But rage is good. I don’t have to harm myself or others. Its takes enough to never want anything to do with women. And that’s my rage against all women.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Is GHOW merely the avoiding of women, or is there more to it than that?

iLearn another question to: Do you hate all women?  You spoke of a rage against all women. I assume that means you hate all women.  Is that correct?  I see this as having an indifference, or do you say indifference = hatred.  I am curious here, because if this is the case, I do see that feminists, or others who aren’t there, will end up saying you do have misogyny, because that seems to be the definition I am finding for what misogyny is.  Maybe it is justified, but I just ask about it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I believe that the “Red Pill Rage” is a natural stage that most MGTOW go through.  Some people hold grudges, others nurture them.

Misogyny – dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

How is it, that in the process of seeing women’s behavior for what it really is, that a MGTOW will not dislike women?  However, many MGTOW still engage in sexual relationships.  So I believe the mindset that MGTOW have in common is distrust.  Invalid

Contempt – beneath consideration.  What consideration will you give a person that has the power, and could whimsically exercise the power to destroy your life?  The answer is a lot.  Invalid.

Prejudice – preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.  All too untrue.  Actual experience is what MGTOW have based their decisions on.  Invalid.

Anonymous wrote:

Its good to have that bitter taste in one’s mouth and never forget the lessons learned the hard way.

Valid.  The hard lessons stay learned.  Not just the lessons from personal experience, but lessons from observing others getting screwed over.

To me, MGTOW is not just about avoiding women.  This is impossible unless you are a monk.  It’s not about hating women.  This takes too much energy, and I can’t think of a single woman that is worth this much consideration.

To me, it’s not accepting the social and political requirement to enter in to a relationship that has the objective of making me in to a mindless money-making drone.  To be happy and free to pursue my own destiny without someone else telling me it’s wrong to do so.

Women are like high speed power tools.  If you use them long enough, you are bound to be injured in some way.  Being afraid of them or hating them will keep you out of the work shop.  The difference is that you can get something productive out of a power tool.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 18]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Is GHOW merely the avoiding of women, or is there more to it than that?

Personally to me there no going my way if I have a woman in my life. I can’t completely dissociate her influence on my decisions or feelings if I am sleeping with her. I have never been the guy to pump and dump. May be that day will come. But I am taking baby steps for now. At this stage it’s all about avoiding women sexually/romantically. I have never been friends with women I didn’t want to sleep with. Never got the point of that.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

iLearn another question to: Do you hate all women?  You spoke of a rage against all women. I assume that means you hate all women.  Is that correct?  I see this as having an indifference, or do you say indifference = hatred.  I am curious here, because if this is the case, I do see that feminists, or others who aren’t there, will end up saying you do have misogyny, because that seems to be the definition I am finding for what misogyny is.  Maybe it is justified, but I just ask about it.

Your questions are totally valid. What I expressed as my rage to all women was vague and open for interpretation. ‘My rage’ is not to women I encounter in public sphere. I can laugh with them, treat them with respect and kindness, and even go out of my way to help them when/if they need it. I graduated from medical school a few months back and I couldn’t have survived or will survive in PC workforce without being warm and receptive to both men and women. Where my rage comes in is from a female’s ability (more importantly my own inability to keep my attachment at bay) to wreak havoc once you romantically get involved with one. That’s the rage that I would really like to nurture for the times I could make an error in judgment on my part and fall in love again. Rage = feelings of dissatisfactions in female logic, approach to ‘love’ + lack of complete loyalty and commitment + sociopathic tendencies to emotionally ruin one’s own sense of identity and inbreed insecurity, and jealousy + lies by omission. I don’t hate women, but I would hate to be in a position where I lose my own sense of identity again. So far I can tell it’s only a woman’s ability to trap you in love and manipulate you and later discard you and move on with zero guilt or accountability. I would hate to be there again. And by default I would hate for a woman to trap me again. So I hate the hypothetical love interest (a woman) I may develop in future and my subtle rage hopefully will prevent me from reaching that level of commitment, ever again.

Thanks for pointing that out to me. I hate when feminists flick their self-indulgent t~~~s in face of an argument by distorting it. And I left plenty to be misinterpreted in my first post.

Cheers 🙂

[BufordParticipant 935]

I’ve been MGHOW for years now. Before this was even a thing. I wasn’t even aware that I was part of a growing collection of men arriving at the same conclusion until recently, or even knew that we had a title! Just came across it while browsing.

I decided to register and comment because recently my (enforced) attachment to the almighty modern bitch was finally at an end. I’m healthy, happy and confident in my decision to go it alone, and I wanted to perhaps pass on the odd semi-sage wisdom tidbits to those newly arrived at this juncture, that it can work out for the better.

 

"This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags. - Sheriff Buford T. Justice"

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Buford wrote:

I’ve been MGHOW for years now. Before this was even a thing. I wasn’t even aware that I was part of a growing collection of men arriving at the same conclusion until recently, or even knew that we had a title! Just came across it while browsing. I decided to register and comment because recently my (enforced) attachment to the almighty modern bitch was finally at an end. I’m healthy, happy and confident in my decision to go it alone, and I wanted to perhaps pass on the odd semi-sage wisdom tidbits to those newly arrived at this juncture, that it can work out for the better.

Welcome aboard.  This trend happened also in Japan, with its own variety called the Herbivore.  It looks like, starting with Canada and branching out, that men are stepping away from the social norms and avoiding marriage, or dating, or whatever in various degrees, and trying to shape a new identity to deal with the bull of feminism, gynocentrism, and other things they see are a problem.  MGHOW/MGTOW is the label, and there is a bunch of soul searching going on regarding this.  Of course, exactly what the label means is getting debated, but I consider that part of the soul searching.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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