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I’ve asked for advice on other forums concerning me and my best friend who abandoned me for his GF and the majority of the “advice” I got was just people calling me gay or saying it’s weird that I would feel such a way over a male friend. Over on these forums, I get nothing but empathy and good advice.
I’ve had a few girlfriends, one night stands etc. and am sexually experienced, but none of those come close to the bonds that I’ve had with really close male friends.
I honestly went through a month r so long depression when my best friend abandoned me but no one seemed to validate how I felt and just ostracized me even further to the point where I didn’t even talk about it anymore. I eventually came out the fog and made new friends and got back into my hobbies. Now that they broke up, he is the one depressed and leaning on me while I’m happy. Isn’t that ironic?Do blue pillers really not know how great the bond of two males can really be? I honestly think it’s one of the best things in life. Helping each other at the lowest points in your life and sharing the highest as well and knowing that you’d KILL for that motherf~~~er.
You guys feel what I’m saying?
Anonymous29Why Are Two Close Male Friends Seen As Gay ?
Short version. —–> It’s an often used method to stop men doing their own s~~~ in order to get them back on the proverbial treadmill.
Because it is not healthy for one man to fuss over another person…be it a man or a woman.
Sebastian
"We can no more stop him from marrying than we can stop him from making a well researched decision to poke his eyes out with a stick."
-SidecarBecause it is not healthy for one man to fuss over another person…be it a man or a woman.
Sebastian
I agree that it can be “unhealthy” at a certain point, but isn’t that what happens when you invest a lot in any person regardless?
For example, If you and your best friend were scumbag drug addicts for years and then got clean and are making a living together, and one suddenly abandons their friendship for a toxic relationship with a manipulative female, what man WOULDN’T feel a certain way and make a fuss about that?
That is human nature, but we must fight it.
Human choice is just that-a choice. In the end they are going to do what they want, so why waste time trying to convince them otherwise. Life is too short. Cut dead weight…you will find that no friendship is guaranteed.
Sebastian
"We can no more stop him from marrying than we can stop him from making a well researched decision to poke his eyes out with a stick."
-SidecarBlack Pill,
I read parts of your other thread, though I didnt comment. Here are my thoughts FWIW: if I recall correctly the friend at hand is older than you. It came across to me that he had a big brother role on you. Im assuming your in your early 20’s (?). Is all of that right?
If so, then I would say I could relate at that age to SOME extent. When I was 20 I had an older friend that I thought of as a big brother, looked up to, and had a great bond with. I hadnt started chasing pussy yet though, so there is that difference.
I would also say I agree with this though:
Because it is not healthy for one man to fuss over another person…be it a man or a woman.
I would add the caveat that if youre in love with a chick, the aforementioned doesnt apply. And I mean truly in love.
But to get down to brass tax: it is very odd for a guy to be JEALOUS of his buddies gf. That s~~~ simply doesnt fly and doesnt pass the stink test. I had a friend recently express jealousy of a girl I was talking to, and then later he seemed jealous of one of my guy friends. It made me wonder if hes a closeted gay.
Chicks dont “replace” male friends per say. It might seem that way, but if you express it that way I think most guys would think it strange you felt that way.
Ill put it as blunt as possible: she might take time out of you and his shooting the s~~~ over beers, but hes f~~~ing her pussy and mouth so in no way is she “replacing” you or should you be jealous.
Resident cynic.
That is human nature, but we must fight it.
Human choice is just that-a choice. In the end they are going to do what they want, so why waste time trying to convince them otherwise. Life is too short. Cut dead weight…you will find that no friendship is guaranteed.
Sebastian
yea funny how i knew that BEFORE, but built up a future in my head making a business and getting rich and all with the dude only for him to be sidetracked by vagina with a baby
Black Pill,
I read parts of your other thread, though I didnt comment. Here are my thoughts FWIW: if I recall correctly the friend at hand is older than you. It came across to me that he had a big brother role on you. Im assuming your in your early 20’s (?). Is all of that right?
If so, then I would say I could relate at that age to SOME extent. When I was 20 I had an older friend that I thought of as a big brother, looked up to, and had a great bond with. I hadnt started chasing pussy yet though, so there is that difference.
I would also say I agree with this though:
Because it is not healthy for one man to fuss over another person…be it a man or a woman.
I would add the caveat that if youre in love with a chick, the aforementioned doesnt apply. And I mean truly in love.
But to get down to brass tax: it is very odd for a guy to be JEALOUS of his buddies gf. That s~~~ simply doesnt fly and doesnt pass the stink test. I had a friend recently express jealousy of a girl I was talking to, and then later he seemed jealous of one of my guy friends. It made me wonder if hes a closeted gay.
Chicks dont “replace” male friends per say. It might seem that way, but if you express it that way I think most guys would think it strange you felt that way.
Ill put it as blunt as possible: she might take time out of you and his shooting the s~~~ over beers, but hes f~~~ing her pussy and mouth so in no way is she “replacing” you or should you be jealous.
we are the same age, but yea he still played a bigger brother/father role for me.
I know i could never replace a female in that way, but the way I’m wired is that i would drop everything to be there for a friend that close no matter how much i was “in love” with the bitch. throughout my whole life I’ve seen guys negate their closest friends for pussy and it makes me sick because I would never do that. I’m just not built to be whipped like that….not to mention, if a woman EVER expressed anything negatvie about the friendship of me and my closest friend that built each other up for years, i would immediately put that bitch in check..ESPECIALLY IF SHE GIVES ME AN ULTIMATUM ESSENTIALLY TELLING ME IT’S EITHER MY FRIEND OR HER. I’d laugh in her f~~~ing face and walk out so quick no questions asked at all. This is because I realize that relationships don’t last (not to mention i don’t want kids or a fam or marriage). Friendships may have an expiration date, but they usually last longer for me and I value them much more.
the way I’m wired is that i would drop everything to be there for a friend that close no matter how much i was “in love” with the bitch
I did feel this same way when I was growing up in adolecents, and felt somewhat abandoned by my closest friends who were popping their cherries. I thought it really sucked at the time.
Im not sure how old you are, but the older I get things just kind of changed for me. I still do have some very select close friends, that I can completely count on. But its different. We do our own s~~~. Dont talk as often as when you were growing up or younger, etc. And it has nothing to do with girls. Its just the way it is.
The only friend I had that I would talk to extremely often was the one who gets bitchy and jealous about s~~~. Kind of acts bitchy like hes on the rag in general and Im cutting him out of my life. Not worth the headache.
Nothing “gay” about being tight with your friends. Id say as long as your guy friend isnt complaining its probably cool. I wouldnt pay attention to his chicks opinion because shell just be a jealous c~~~ and throw accusations at you.
Resident cynic.
Compassion for the suffering of another is the expression of what is the best of human nature. It is no more “gay” than Mother Theresa’s compassion for the suffering of abandoned orphan babies is pedophilia. Keep in touch with your compassion: compassion is what makes us human. Compassion elevates us over the dumb beasts.
About dumb beasts: Just because they can tie their shoes without help and speak the language their mother’s spoke does not make them human beings. Without compassion, they are merely featherless bipeds.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
There is nothing gay about two males being friends and affectionate. They do it all over the middle east where they haven’t had a war on men for the last 160 years since Seneca Falls.
There’s nothing gay about being homosexuals, the only gay thing discriminating against homosexual (/s)
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Its all about how the genders, generally speaking, experience love.
Men bond strongly and have a deeper love of another person they care about. A solider will sacrifice his life for a brother in arms. He’ll risk his life to protect friends and family. Its in our biology.
Women, typically, do not feel love in the same way and are more likely to care deeply for a child. Their biology is driven towards hypergamy and to view men as disposable. I speaking in broad generalizations, of course. I’m sure there are women whose brain/chemistry closely mirror that of a man’s, and vice verse. There are several videos on YouTube addressing this from a biological point of view.
So I can understand why you have strong feelings for your friend even though you are both straight.
In regards to the topic’s question, that’s pretty easy. Society thinks two men who are close to one another and not in female relationships must be homosexual. I suspect this was a constructed view in order to prevent this from happening as any refusal to engage with women is a dangerous idea that they hope won’t spread (mass exodus from the plantation). Its also rooted in the past when the country was majority-religious and homosexuality was hated. Communities were on the lookout for gays because they were seen as an abomination.
Fortunately, the stigma of being a homosexual is much diminished as of late. As such, close male friendships (bromance) shouldn’t be as big a deal in others’ eyes.
I do have to ask though, and I say this with absolutely no judgement or negativity: Have you done some deep soul searching and tried to figure out if you may be bisexual?
Me and my close buddy used to get this all the time. I guess they just can’t comprehend spending so much time with someone without having sex with them no matter what gender….simple minds.
Modern society ends up defining a lot through the lens of sex drive. Even concern and feelings one may have, is framed in the context of sex. That is one of the reasons that “gay” is thrown as a slur at MGTOW.. See, “real men” need to “prove” themselves by showing how many women they can bed, and how physically attractive they are.
Pardon a plug here on this, but I did a video on this topic for my channel a few months ago:
Because of this mentality in society, you had some arguing David and Jonathan, in the Bible, were gay lovers.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
the way I’m wired is that i would drop everything to be there for a friend that close no matter how much i was “in love” with the bitch
I did feel this same way when I was growing up in adolecents, and felt somewhat abandoned by my closest friends who were popping their cherries. I thought it really sucked at the time.
Im not sure how old you are, but the older I get things just kind of changed for me. I still do have some very select close friends, that I can completely count on. But its different. We do our own s~~~. Dont talk as often as when you were growing up or younger, etc. And it has nothing to do with girls. Its just the way it is.
The only friend I had that I would talk to extremely often was the one who gets bitchy and jealous about s~~~. Kind of acts bitchy like hes on the rag in general and Im cutting him out of my life. Not worth the headache.
Nothing “gay” about being tight with your friends. Id say as long as your guy friend isnt complaining its probably cool. I wouldnt pay attention to his chicks opinion because shell just be a jealous c~~~ and throw accusations at you.
naw, I wouldn’t bitch about it to my friend, I’d just go about my business. I’m 27.. This had everything to do with girls for this dude though, because now that they’re broken up, he wants to spend so much time together and I just kind of want my distance now that I’ve been doing my thing for so long. I’ve seen this type of thing happen before to so many blue pillers who end up losing all of their friends in the long run.
Compassion for the suffering of another is the expression of what is the best of human nature. It is no more “gay” than Mother Theresa’s compassion for the suffering of abandoned orphan babies is pedophilia. Keep in touch with your compassion: compassion is what makes us human. Compassion elevates us over the dumb beasts.
About dumb beasts: Just because they can tie their shoes without help and speak the language their mother’s spoke does not make them human beings. Without compassion, they are merely featherless bipeds.
best post in this thread and I love the analogy. I’ve always been empathetic to the people I love and even strangers to the point where it has affected me negatively for the most part…seemingly anyway.
There is nothing gay about two males being friends and affectionate. They do it all over the middle east where they haven’t had a war on men for the last 160 years since Seneca Falls.
There’s nothing gay about being homosexuals, the only gay thing discriminating against homosexual (/s)
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Me and my close buddy used to get this all the time. I guess they just can’t comprehend spending so much time with someone without having sex with them no matter what gender….simple minds.
I do think they have simple minds as well and possibly a low IQ or just brainwashed by society.
Modern society ends up defining a lot through the lens of sex drive. Even concern and feelings one may have, is framed in the context of sex. That is one of the reasons that “gay” is thrown as a slur at MGTOW.. See, “real men” need to “prove” themselves by showing how many women they can bed, and how physically attractive they are.
Pardon a plug here on this, but I did a video on this topic for my channel a few months ago:
<iframe width=”500″ height=”281″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/2MnWo2mT_WE?feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>
Because of this mentality in society, you had some arguing David and Jonathan, in the Bible, were gay lovers.
thanks for the video, I’ll watch later
Its all about how the genders, generally speaking, experience love.
Men bond strongly and have a deeper love of another person they care about. A solider will sacrifice his life for a brother in arms. He’ll risk his life to protect friends and family. Its in our biology.
Women, typically, do not feel love in the same way and are more likely to care deeply for a child. Their biology is driven towards hypergamy and to view men as disposable. I speaking in broad generalizations, of course. I’m sure there are women whose brain/chemistry closely mirror that of a man’s, and vice verse. There are several videos on YouTube addressing this from a biological point of view.
So I can understand why you have strong feelings for your friend even though you are both straight.
In regards to the topic’s question, that’s pretty easy. Society thinks two men who are close to one another and not in female relationships must be homosexual. I suspect this was a constructed view in order to prevent this from happening as any refusal to engage with women is a dangerous idea that they hope won’t spread (mass exodus from the plantation). Its also rooted in the past when the country was majority-religious and homosexuality was hated. Communities were on the lookout for gays because they were seen as an abomination.
Fortunately, the stigma of being a homosexual is much diminished as of late. As such, close male friendships (bromance) shouldn’t be as big a deal in others’ eyes.
I do have to ask though, and I say this with absolutely no judgement or negativity: Have you done some deep soul searching and tried to figure out if you may be bisexual?
dude I’m not gay trust me. I’ve only tried c~~~ ten times and have already came to the conclusion that it’s just not for me
dude I’m not gay trust me. I’ve only tried c~~~ ten times and have already came to the conclusion that it’s just not for me
Because women feel threatened and jealous whenever they see a guy super happy without them, … so they use the shaming tactics, one of them is calling the guy GAY…
Anonymous5C~~~ shaming tactics 101: “He likes his guy friends more than ME/Females?! He MUST be GAY! How can he not worship my c~~~?”
Anonymous11These idiots on those forums would freak on me and certain friends of mine. We’ll go out in public and purposely pretend we’re actually a group of homosexuals just to gauge people’s reactions. We do it respectfully too. Some people even ask us if we’re gay. Whenever we see a guy uncomfortable with it, we amp it up even more. Some guys will know we’re horsing around and join in with us. It’s the ultimate hetero male bonding experience. My town has a large gay population so we don’t have to worry about getting into fights.
There’s nothing wrong with men being close friends. Women can’t do it.
Modern society ends up defining a lot through the lens of sex drive. Even concern and feelings one may have, is framed in the context of sex. That is one of the reasons that “gay” is thrown as a slur at MGTOW.. See, “real men” need to “prove” themselves by showing how many women they can bed, and how physically attractive they are.
Pardon a plug here on this, but I did a video on this topic for my channel a few months ago:
<iframe width=”500″ height=”281″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/2MnWo2mT_WE?feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>
Because of this mentality in society, you had some arguing David and Jonathan, in the Bible, were gay lovers.
thanks for the video, I’ll watch later
Welcome. Just my take on this, and also a Bible/Christian perspective on stuff, that runs counter to social norms. I did see this whole issue as one impacting MGTOW, so I figured I would bring it into this thread. Yes, it is something out there.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
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