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Women are outperforming and earning more? GREAT! Then we don’t expect to hear a-f~~~ing-nother complaint about the “wage gap” or how women aren’t being paid enough. We will send those idiots straight to YOU.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.the first 2 posts you make are about how women dominate men…please tell me you’re not serious about your opinions not being gynocentric besides, the pendulum will swing once again
You have no basis for your claims. The pendulum is showing no signs of slowing down, let alone swinging back.
Women are outperforming and earning more? GREAT! Then we don’t expect to hear a-f~~~ing-nother complaint about the “wage gap” or how women aren’t being paid enough. We will send those idiots straight to YOU.
I take it you are the moderator here? I think it is highly inappropriate of you to change the title at will and shifting this to “the litter box”. I have stated nothing but facts.
I am a man but I won’t run from reality. There is no shame in accepting facts. Yes, I disregard feminists talking about the wage gap and s~~~ like that.
But I am worried about what will happen to men. They seem to have become a disadvantaged group in education according to some, and will become in the workplace too if trends continue. I’m sorry that you are offended, but you need to take an honest look at whether you are finding FACTS offensive or not.
Also, you might want to correct your title as women are doing better in life now. And since you brought up business I urge you to do a quick google search of “women do better business” and you will find plenty of research that states that more women is ACTUALLY good for business and that women may make better business leaders, managers, investors etc… Women have also been consistently outperforming men in hedgefunds in the past few years.
Women are owning more and more small businesses. There is some evidence that women are better entrepreneurs and that startups with female executives are more likely to succeed than men.
Yes, the fortune 500 is still male dominated, but female presence is growing slowly but surely. When the people that are currently in their teens reach 45, how much better will men still do in business? Come on!
I take it you are the moderator here? I think it is highly inappropriate of you to change the title at will and shifting this to “the litter box”. I have stated nothing but facts.
This is a pro-male interest discussion forum – in the best interests of MEN – and I am much more than just “the moderator” here. When the world constructed all around you – and life as you know it – has been MOSTLY provided by women, then you can begin to pretend you’re bringing “facts”. I even countered your facts with articles and actual recorded public female testimony. Here are some more “facts”- backed up by female testimony – on how women are NOT doing better. The change in title is absolutely appropriate:
There is no shame in accepting facts.
Precisely. Its time for you to ACCEPT THEM.
THAT is why your s~~~ belongs in the litter box.Better at business and STILL doing better in life.
http://www.bankrate.com/financing/investing/are-men-better-at-business/
Just observe your own s~~~ about how women are better in the “workforce”. Men ARE the “workforce”. While I am personally no proof of anything, I worked for a privately owned “college” owned and operated by a woman. FAR fewer men on staff… but guess who did all the WORK??? That’s right. MEN. Their website was a f~~~ing disaster until we showed up. And the “number of women employed” is proof of NOTHING.
I’m sorry that you are offended…
Offended? Care to try again?
The pendulum is showing no signs of slowing down, let alone swinging back.
Actually it’s MGTOW that is showing no signs of slowing down. And you can stay the f~~~ out of our way.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The economy like I said is heavily dependent on women, who make up more than half of the workforce. It just takes a day’s strike for women to collapse the economy…. don’t you realize the power they hold? They DO make the world go around. I don’t think you respect them for that.
I am a MGTOW too but women don’t want marriage. If you look at the current trends of 50% divorce and relationships and you look at the Musuo matriarchy, women want serial monogamy and this is what we’re heading towards. Nobody will care about marriage in a few years and this is an undeniable fact.
Is this a private fight, or may anyone join in?
One bricklayer does far more good for the world than 10,000 HR managers, women’s studies professors, or TV reporters.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Actually no, it takes women to RUIN the economy.
Women CAUSED the subprime mortgage meltdown.
Because they think “credit” is the same as “money”.Women don’t know how to treat “property”. Just look at how they treat themselves! The let themselves get fat and totally out of shape , and then they start crying about it. They also treat their cars and houses like sh*t.
The last time I let a woman drive me anywhere, I didn’t. I insisted on driving HER car myself and she had to kick through a foot of trash and debris in her passenger seat to even sit down. That’s how a woman treats something she owns. She lets it go to hell.
Women don’t understand ownership. They only understand “consumership” That’s why they should only purchase things that can be used. Things like make-up, clothing, pots and pans, and especially birth control; all things meant to be used up or thrown away when something better comes along.
MEN are owners.
We invented ownership and we fought the wars that resulted from this awesome invention. Ownership is about putting work into something, including ourselves, in order to increase its value. Women just complain until someone either pays more for access to their vagina, or lies better while doing it.
A boob job doesn’t make a girl smarter,
it just makes her LOOK smarter.• In 2003, one in five home purchases were made by single women.
• In 2004 women were 32% more likely to receive a subprime mortgage than men.
• In 2005 women were 41% more likely to receive a high-cost subprime mortgage than men.
• In 2006, 30% of mortgage borrowers were women
• In 2007, 38.8% of subprime mortgage borrowers were women.
• In 2008, women were 29.1% more likely than men to be financially stupid and irresponsible.
The economy is like a symphony.
It doesn’t take an orchestra to f~~~ it up,
it just takes like 29.1% of the instruments.Just observe your own s~~~ about how women are better in the “workforce”. Men ARE the “workforce”. While I am personally no proof of anything, I worked for a privately owned “college” owned and operated by a woman. FAR fewer men on staff… but guess who did all the WORK??? That’s right. MEN. Their website was a f~~~ing disaster until we showed up. We quadrupled their signups in less than 3 months. No woman employed there ever did. The “number of women employed” is proof of NOTHING.. and that’s from the INSIDE.
I don’t think you respect them for that.
Goddamn right. Who the f~~~ WOULD.
Now take your gynocentric s~~~, and get the f~~~ out of here.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11Who really cares what women want, feel, say, or think they can do. None of it matters anymore.
We’ve dropped out
women is ACTUALLY good for business
Yeah, if your business is a strip club.
There are women who have excelled in the sciences, as innovators, but they are few and far between — e.g. Marie Curie. I have also met competent women research scientists (Battelle Memorial Institute), but admittedly, very few of them relative to males. At the extreme high end of the intelligence distribution curve, there is a higher fraction of men than women, and you see this in, say, MENSA membership. It is very politically incorrect to even discuss a topic like that — this is a forum where my message won’t get deleted! In my opinion, that contributes to the gender ‘innovation gap’. There is no female Newton or Einstein. But 99.9999% of us are not Newtons or Einsteins.
Girls have better ‘self-regulation’ in the early years of their education — waiting their turn, following teacher’s instructions, etc and this contributes to success. This is true across many nations.
Oftentimes a zero grade is given for late or missing assignments, so that even if the boy can pass the exam he fails the class. I would say boys are less diligent about homework/outside classroom work than girls in general, so the structure of regimented education (and the regimentation itself) tends to favor girls over boys in my humble opinion. There are alternatives, such as the Montessori method/self-directed study of topics of interest to the student. Young boys are more likely to rebel against the regimented educational system than the girls. Later in life, this rebelliousness, or being a ‘maverick’ may be valued as being an innovator or thinking outside the box so completely squelching it in the early years seems to me a bad idea. You can argue the teachers are mostly women and have gender bias, but I contend, boys are being disciplined more because they misbehave more. Personally, I am against the regimented, one-size fits all education system for BOTH genders, but I’d argue it is more damaging to boys. It stifles creativity and spontaneity. Study what WE want when we want and take endless assessment tests is one option — the other is study what YOU want WHEN you want — study what you are passionate about. Perhaps I should take 2nd grade math if I can pass 1st grade math & am bored… I was good at math and bored out of my gourd in grade school as we did the same thing over & over… Others were bored in different subjects…
In the past there were many manual labor jobs that women didn’t want to do (and in many cases, could not do because they were excluded from vocational training and managers would not hire them). Nowadays, you still have male-dominated industries. I work in the chemical industry. There are almost NO woman mechanics or chemical operators. So the workplace looks like something from the 1950’s except in the office where there are more women. That is, of course, very atypical for the American workplace. Even so, it seems pretty clear women DON’T like to do that sort of work (mining, heavy industry). There are other professions that are female-dominated (primary school teachers, hairstylists, etc). As the economy has shifted away from manufacturing and towards the service sector along with clerical and big government bureaucracy jobs, this has worked in favor of women.
Women’s academic success relative to men changes nothing with regards to their behavior towards the opposite sex or hypergamy. A lot of women still want a free ride & not to go to work. There are fewer women entrepreneurs. But is that women’s nature? Or would men do the same if they could get away with it and men were pedestalized? I would argue men WOULD do the same, but that isn’t the world we live in. The marriage 2.0 contract is typically a very bad deal for a man, women’s academic success doesn’t change that.
Happygolucky – you owe us an introduction. While you’re at it – take a picture of your (not your boyfriend’s) b~~~~ack with your monitor showing this topic in the background
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Is this a private fight, or may anyone join in?
That ass is all yours. I’m done here. Have at it.
One bricklayer does far more good for the world than 10,000 HR managers, women’s studies professors, or TV reporters
That’s where it got hilarious: “nobody is saying men are not better at brick laying”.
“brick laying”.
If we put the last 100 years in female hands it would still take you 6 f~~~ing weeks to get from LA to New York – if you survived the journey at all …. in a goddam buggy. Pulled by a goat. Even that is giving women too much credit. It would be more like 3 months.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11If you’re a Mangina and not a woman, b~~~~ are those pair matched thingies that your wife makes you tape down with that duck tape that really,really hurt with the slightest injury. You know, those things.
I’ve got a bad cold so I’m stuck in the house again… I loved ‘the world is flat t~~~’ video! It is amazing the percentage of ‘educated’ people who can’t identify what continent they are on or answer basic questions. If I look at an 8th grade textbook from my parents’ generation, it has the sophistication of a 12th grade textbook now…
I’d also agree formal education is overrated. I started programming at 12 on my Atari and learned it by reading and doing. It isn’t my primary profession but I’ve written databases and done a lot of industrial process control & PLC programming. The over-reliance upon certifications and credentials in the American workplace is disheartening and limits advancement of people/technicians that can perform tasks but don’t have the Magic Piece of Paper. Our universities produce many ‘educated idiots’. . .
I would disagree women were responsible for the mortgage crisis — in my opinion, Big Government was the primary cause. The federal government created the incentives for banks to write mortgages to people with inadequate credit, inadequate down payments, and inadequate future earning potential. It did that by insuring the mortgages (Fannie & Freddie). How do you SOLVE the problem? You get rid of Fannie & Freddie. In a free market, the banks will EAT the loss if there are defaults on mortgages. You can argue the Dumbocrats were largely responsible but the Depublicans also pushed for expansion of low-interest loans. Why? Special interest politics — Dumbocrats liked handouts to a major constituency — the poor (wealth transfer from working to non-working people after the crash) & Depublicans liked more profits for their big bank/mortgage company croney capitalism supporters. So a win-win for them all and a big loss for the taxpayer/private sector working citizen. And the American public is too stupid to vote out of office, politicians who support Fannie & Freddie…
Financial responsibility? Men save a LOT more over their lifetimes than women. They also participate at a higher percentage in the job market.
The sad reality is, after the crisis, women executives AND OTHERS pushed for ‘financial reforms’ NOT an end to the ROOT CAUSE of crony capitalism: Government backed loans. There is about a 9% gap between men and women and party affiliation, with more women voting Democratic. Of course, we have two branches of one big government party in Amerika.
Actually no, it takes women to RUIN the economy. Women CAUSED the subprime mortgage meltdown. Because they think “credit” is the same as “money”. Women don’t know how to treat “property”. Just look at how they treat themselves! The let themselves get fat and totally out of shape , and then they start crying about it. They also treat their cars and houses like sh*t. The last time I let a woman drive me anywhere, I didn’t. I insisted on driving HER car myself and she had to kick through a foot of trash and debris in her passenger seat to even sit down. That’s how a woman treats something she owns. She lets it go to hell. Women don’t understand ownership. They only understand “consumership” That’s why they should only purchase things that can be used. Things like make-up, clothing, pots and pans, and especially birth control; all things meant to be used up or thrown away when something better comes along. MEN are owners. We invented ownership and we fought the wars that resulted from this awesome invention. Ownership is about putting work into something, including ourselves, in order to increase its value. Women just complain until someone either pays more for access to their vagina, or lies better while doing it. A boob job doesn’t make a girl smarter, it just makes her LOOK smarter. • In 2003, one in five home purchases were made by single women. • In 2004 women were 32% more likely to receive a subprime mortgage than men. • In 2005 women were 41% more likely to receive a high-cost subprime mortgage than men. • In 2006, 30% of mortgage borrowers were women • In 2007, 38.8% of subprime mortgage borrowers were women. • In 2008, women were 29.1% more likely than men to be financially stupid and irresponsible. The economy is like a symphony. It doesn’t take an orchestra to f~~~ it up, it just takes like 29.1% of the instruments. Just observe your own s~~~ about how women are better in the “workforce”. Men ARE the “workforce”. While I am personally no proof of anything, I worked for a privately owned “college” owned and operated by a woman. FAR fewer men on staff… but guess who did all the WORK??? That’s right. MEN. Their website was a f~~~ing disaster until we showed up. We quadrupled their signups in less than 3 months. No woman employed there ever did. The “number of women employed” is proof of NOTHING.. and that’s from the INSIDE.
I don’t think you respect them for that.
Goddamn right. Who the f~~~ WOULD. Now take your gynocentric s~~~, and get the f~~~ out of here.
While the entry of women may lead to the decline or collapse of the economy there’s just no evidence. Economies have collapsed in the past and there have been many terrible crisis in the male dominated world throughout history. 46% of China’s workforce is women and they seem to be doing better and better.
You realize that women are half of our workforce right? If women went on strike the economy would collapse, it already happened in Iceland and I’m sure results would be the same if it happened anywhere else in the west. We need women to compete in the world, we are very dependent on them to run & support our current systems.
Come on man, at least give props where due. There is actually a mountain of evidence that women are good for business and better than men in some respects. You just need to do a quick google search to find a lot of it.
Yes, men are innovators, but that doesn’t undermine women as most people are not innovators and women are making strides in the world so big that they are overtaking men in jobs, wealth and education…. and there are no signs of this stopping. The future is, unfortunately, a female dominated one if current trends continue and they will.
@keymaster @ChauvanistPig
I loved ‘the world is flat t~~~’ video!
Most telling was the non-reaction from the others – and the entire audience. That bitch should have been laughed out of the room. And she would have – had she been a man. But a woman can go on TV and “i have no idea if the world is round or flat” and every female in the audience just silently sits there, and quietly understands it because they DONT GIVE A S~~~ ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEMSELVES. The shape of the world – or mysteries of the universe – will never be more important than SHE – or stuffing her face and her kids faces. That’s the intellect of the modern women.
When asked “is the word round or flat”… she doesn’t even say “well I learned in school that MEN already proved the world is round. I was TOLD that it is “. No. She says “I don’t know! I have no idea! That thought just doesn’t enter into my…..”
And there you go.
GREATNESS is a MAN thing because men are able to REMOVE themselves from the equation and think of something bigger – and more important – than themselves. I don’t even know how this “women are doing better in school” idiot gets off in the face of just that kind of video evidence. There isn’t a grown man in the civilized world (or even an 8 year old) that would answer “is the world round or flat?” in that way. And he wouldn’t get away with it for a second either.
Men already learned it as an absolute certainty +/- 550 years ago .. but 1/2 a millennium later, a woman who enjoys a celebrity status – AND A SALARY – goes on record to say “i have no idea”. She should be f~~~ing unemployed and homeless.
I would disagree women were responsible for the mortgage crisis — in my opinion, Big Government was the primary cause.
You’re very well right! But it doesn’t change the point that women treat credit like money.That’s the real meat of it.
The debt bubble and student loan SCAM is the reason you’re looking at a 1 TRILLION dollar student loan crisis. Because “women are doing better in school”. Just that “college” I worked for admitted MANY more girls than boys… by extending them a f~~~ing massive LOAN and committed them to the next 40 years of facing the back of a cubicle just to pay it off as a useless HR t~~~ with no skills. One after the other. This is how they generated their “revenue” and when I realized how much of a scam it all was …. I quit.
I will have no part of that s~~~.
And what “degrees” did they give out? “Fashion”…. and “massage therapy”. I looked at the situation and watch the female “CEO” strut around with her Fendi and Mercedes. And what’s funding her parasitic consumerist lifestyle? LOANS. The DEBTS OF OTHER PEOPLE. She did not – and none of the women who work there – created anything.
Completely and utterly USELESS.
WORTHLESS contributers to society.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.A lot of forums actually wouldn’t ban you. The gynocracy isn’t so oppressive. But you would be met with disapproval by many, and these attitudes need to be changed.
It is a fact that boys are more likely to be violent in the classroom, but it is also fact that single sex education makes boys do just as well as girls. 8/20 top schools in the UK are boys only and 11 are girls only…. even though there are far more single sex schools for girls!
I may be wrong, but I think girls have a negative effect on boys achievement…. Only men should teach men, and men should have a place where they can BE without having a female bitch policing them. Both our mental well being and achievement.
The gynocracy isn’t so oppressive.
You just lied. They will remove a conflicting opinion on site – based on that alone – and you’re about to experience the same thing. Just head over to “Yahoo” and other gynocentric websites with “report: and “abuse” buttons because they feel “VIOLATED” – that’s the word they use – by the male point of view. We learned this first hand with FIFTY – yes 50 – deleted accounts when we were actively helping other men. They would ask questions and they would allow s~~~ like this in the “women’s studies” section:
… and when we told them “don’t sign a marriage contract and it’s a non-issue”, the bitches were all over it machine-gun-hammering the “report for abuse” buttons trying to silence us. It’s part of the reason we exist and we – MEN – created our OWN forum where they have no power to oppress, control, silence and suppress the male point of view. This is the place where the gynocentric opinion is now and finally considered worthless garbage.
You will take your s~~~ elsehwere. MGTOW are the men who will not tolerate your crap anymore.
LEAVE.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11The future is, unfortunately, a female dominated one if current trends continue and they will.
Never assume any trend will ever continue. Oh, anointed foreseer of all that shall come. An extreme dogma as gynocracism has such powerful negative feedbacks. Do not discount them.
The gynocracy isn’t so oppressive.
So, a wing of which openly advocates androcide is not opressive. A force that drugs young men and turns them into docile zombies is not oppressive. The room shudders with laughter at that steaming pile of dung.
Enjoy the Litter Box!
This is a website for “MEN – going their own way” and ONLY “Men going their own way”.
And part of “Men Going Their Own Way” is never listening to any f~~~ing gynocentric garbage ever again.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Keymaster: Yes, she wasn’t called on the carpet for being a moron. Are you saying ‘The View’ is sexist? Haha, of course it is. And doubtless there is a double-standard in TV and popular culture about making fun of men vs women. Even Barbara Walters could only come up with a weak ‘you could do both’ (feed the kids and educate yourself) in that video. While I disagree completely with Walters’ politics, she is reasonably intelligent so that was particularly disgraceful. At least they got rid of Ms. Piggy Rosie O’Donnell so you don’t have to watch it on a wide screen monitor anymore and thus we can see all the panelists on one screen now. Actually, I’ve never watched the entire program, just clips… As for TV, I used to like ‘Married with Children’ when I was growing up because that sit-com actually DID portray women stereotypically, I doubt you could make a program like that nowadays. Peg liked to sit on her ass on the couch all day and the daughter was a stupid slut.
I would say MORE women are financially irresponsible than men, but some women are financially responsible; I’ve known single women that bought their own homes and had high savings rates. Some were loners with no interest in men. These are certainly ‘rare birds’ though. My mother bought her own house years before she was married. At that time, even though her income was adequate, her FATHER (i.e. some man) had to co-sign the mortgage because the bank, would not issue a mortgage to a single woman without a co-signer, even WITH her down payment. So we can make AWALT arguments but not all women are financially irresponsible as many on here would likely argue — but women overall ARE less financially responsible — by objective metrics such as life savings, debt, and savings rates. The mass media makes womenscuses for it blaming it on ‘the so-called wage gap’. Well, women CHOOSE what to study, just like men, and they CHOOSE what percent of income to spend on discretionary purchases. So women get a ‘free pass’ quite a bit in the press. And of course, the wage gap is malarky. A few weeks ago it was being discussed at work and I told a colleague the company would replace our assess with women if they cost 80% as much, ya know, profit over patriarchy. It’s kinda funny, really — the hourly guys were more on my side, one even mentioned ‘we do all the dieing at work’ whereas my college-educated colleagues, were somewhat aghast at my radical ‘anti-woman’ or ‘anti-feminist’ viewpoints.
I’d have to agree more women treat credit as money. How often have you heard a woman complain of their husband ‘he ran up the credit cards’ vs the number of times you heard HIM complain about the wifey doing same? I’ve never heard a woman make that complaint. And of course, women do most consumer purchasing and MOST of them love to shop with wild abandon.. and many love their designer label fashion bags…
Typically, the more formal education you have, the more you believe in big government solutions. Low-interest government backed student loans and government grants are actually the primary CAUSE of the rapid rise in tuitions, along with States spending less of our tax money on public universities & thus more of the costs being paid by the students (these low interest loans and grants are just as bad as Fannie & Freddie).
PRIVATE employer-provided AND STATE health insurance both drive up health care costs vs paying for medical services in a competitive free market. What incentive do I have to save money on health care if ‘I’m not paying for it, my insurance is’. If the bill is F*D up and has extra charges, the patient could care less since it’s all past the deductible anyway & they’re not paying it out of pocket, right?
Obviously, if the market prevailed, private lenders would look at your lifetime earnings potential with that Masters Degree in Womens and Gender Studies, and laugh you out of the room, since they’d be less likely to get their money back, than from someone studying, say, plumbing and pipefitting at a trade school, or computer science or engineering. So allowing market forces to prevail would also encourage people developing useful, marketable skills.
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