Who's (on average) smarter – men or women?

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I am not talking here about inventions or anything like that.
I am talking about using situation to your advantage with minimum effort

I thought a lot about this before. We are blaming women of taking advantage of men. But how can we blame them if that’s the smartest thing you can do as a woman? Not using men would be stupid. So who’s stupid now? a Findom slave or a findom queen?

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[BDParticipant 1146]

There have been many studies and it is always men, however…..

When men are in love, they lose their ability to rationalize, so the man is compromised, and the woman would have the advantage.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I honestly don’t think either sex has more smarts in that regard…its just that blue bill men are blind and put themselves into bad situations because they have good intentions.  How many guys on this forum did just that at some point.  It doesn’t mean they are less smart than the average woman who out played them…it just means they got taken advantage of for thinking they could trust their wife or girlfriend to actually be a life long partner and instead got blindsided by a selfish c~~~ and a biased court.

If you take the average red piller and the average woman tries to outsmart him and take advantage of him…good luck…she’s going to need it.  Do red pill men have more smarts than blue pill men?  Not really…just more life experience or a different upbringing.  Its kind of like saying you are stupid if you don’t know calculus, even though you are capable of learning it but just have never had exposure to it or a need to learn it.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

From my perspective it seems that whoever plays is smart, whoever is played – dumb.

Beer wrote:

It doesn’t mean they are less smart than the average woman who out played them…it just means they got taken advantage of for thinking they could trust their wife or girlfriend to actually be a life long partner and instead got blindsided by a selfish c~~~ and a biased court.

maybe the whole concept that you can trust someone is a dumb childish idealistic losing concept?

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[Bl4ckSh33pParticipant 274]

Men. Duh.

I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez

[Anonymous 11]

BD wrote:

When men are in love, they lose their ability to rationalize, so the man is compromised, and the woman would have the advantage.

Truly our greatest weakness. Using Russky’s definition, I’d go with women.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Russky wrote:

From my perspective it seems that whoever plays is smart, whoever is played – dumb.

Beer wrote:

It doesn’t mean they are less smart than the average woman who out played them…it just means they got taken advantage of for thinking they could trust their wife or girlfriend to actually be a life long partner and instead got blindsided by a selfish c~~~ and a biased court.

maybe the whole concept that you can trust someone is a dumb childish concept?

I don’t think so.  I have plenty of family members and friends that I trust that have never f~~~ed me over.  I think viewing all your relationships as play or be played, and never placing any trust in anyone is a pretty s~~~ty way to go through life.

On the other hand…if you get married…a marriage contract + f~~~ed up court systems just make it way too easy for a woman to f~~~ you over.  Power corrupts people.  I’d place a lot more trust in a long term girlfriend than I would in a wife…simply because the girlfriend knows if she f~~~s up its over, she’s out, and she gets nothing from me, where as the wife would get to cash and and walk away with a nice lump sum.

I’ll let people earn my trust…its just my trust is not absolute once they have it, it can be lost a lot more easily than it can be gained, and I’ll never trust anyone enough to literally give them the power to financially devastate me on a whim.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

but then again, Beer, we’re not average men… okay I’m going to rephrase: who’s smarter – a woman or a mangina?

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[MyselfParticipant 353]

In my experience men are not necessarily smarter than women, BUT…

On average, men tend to experience a wider variety of things in life, especially this day in age when women never (if ever) really “get their hands dirty”.

For example, it is far more likely that a man knows how to change a tire,  or how to hunt down a blown fuse, or how to fix a hole in some drywall, or how to look at the sky and know if it is likely to rain that day.

It is not that ANY of these things require some special level of intelligence.  Hell, men could be DUMBER than women in terms of basic IQ but it still wouldn’t matter, because at the end of the day men know how to actually APPLY whatever smarts they have – and that is all that really counts.

(Just as an aside: it really bothers me that so many boys these days are consumed by video games and the internet – they are missing out on so much)

 

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Russky wrote:

but then again, Beer, we’re not average men… okay I’m going to rephrase: who’s smarter – a woman or a mangina?

Its like Plato’s allegory of the cave.  Mangina’s aren’t stupid, its not like they all have sub par IQs, lack social skills…they are just like the prisoners chained up in the cave…they don’t know any better.  If mangina’s were stupid this website wouldn’t be full of reformed mangina’s and blue pillers…you’d either be born a red piller or born f~~~ed for life.

I think your average woman is definitely more selfish, conniving, and manipulative in a relationship…I don’t think them taking advantage of a poor blue piller and running game on him makes them smart or him dumb.  It just appears he’s massively dumb to you because you have left the cave and seen the world.

Now with that being said…I would agree a red piller who goes back to the life of a blue piller is a dumbass, a blue piller who gets burned repeatedly by every woman he dates and never becomes wiser to the ways of women is a dumbass, and woman who has a good guy who she treats like s~~~ and leaves thinking she can upgrade at any time she wants is a dumbass.

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

Well I define “smart” different than I do “intelligent”. Smart is what I consider “street” people to have and those who fit in well with groups, have “people” skills and what not. Yes women in general are probably smarter. But intelligent is the other side of this, with a far larger area of use and is what I consider your IQ and when you take that into account men are FAR more intelligent in general than women. Men created civilization and women used us to get into “the club”. See the difference? That’s just how I see it.

Its kind of like saying you are stupid if you don’t know calculus, even though you are capable of learning it but just have never had exposure to it or a need to learn it.

That is just called ignorance and there is nothing wrong with it. Funny how people get offended by it though isn’t it? That is a smart person manipulating an intelligent person, who isn’t necessarily smart, to make them feel less than.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Just a Man wrote:

That is just called ignorance and there is nothing wrong with it. Funny how people get offended by it though isn’t it? That is a smart person manipulating an intelligent person, who isn’t necessarily smart, to make them feel less than.

I guess another way to describe what I’m getting at…women aren’t out playing men because men aren’t playing.  If I showed up at your house and threw a couple baskets in your basketball hoop while you were inside playing xbox, then I knocked on your door and claimed I just beat you in basketball when you weren’t even playing the same game I was, would that make me a better basketball player?  Nope.  So how would a woman out playing a blue piller who wasn’t even playing the same game make her smarter?

On the flipside of that…if I just started chasing after every girl I could possible bed, and had no problems telling them lies and misleading them just to get pussy and then ghosting them…would that just make me more smart than them because I’m getting what I want and f~~~ them if they don’t realize they just got played?  I don’t think it would.  It would make me selfish, manipulative, and conniving just like most women are…it wouldn’t make me smart.

 

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

Easy there, Beer, I wasn’t attacking you. I was making a statement from how I see things. Perhaps we are just on different pages, lol.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

My take is this as it relates to being MGTOW is this:  I find it a waste of time to debate this, because as far as I am concerned personally, all that matters is who is smarter than me personally, not who share my attributes being smarter than those who share different attributes from me.  In this, you can get a man who is a dumb as a brick all of a sudden being all excited because men are smarter than women?  He would still be as dumb as a brick, and most women end up smarter than him.  So, what does it matter if men are smarter than women, when he is as dumb as a brick?

In short, my take is that none of that is really relevant to me.  I don’t even get a cookie or a gold star for it being done.  What I will get is that, if you show men are smarter than women, then we need to have intelligence not matter as much, and IQ scores need to be balanced, to give women more points on them for the sake of equality.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

anyone watched the video? It is sick!

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

It’s kinda silly to pretend “one sex is smarter than the other”. Not to mention pretty childish.
(REALLY no offense to anyone trying find a REAL answer to a question)

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A gold digger thinks she’s “smarter”… but she’s intensely f~~~ing stupid because she’s a breed of manipulator. And manipulators ALWAYS think they are smarter. That’s their hubris.

/audio/gold-digger/

A woman will take a man for everything in divorce – and then laugh about it – planning the whole thing long before the wedding.
/video/the-quintessential-bitch-wife/

But does that make her “smarter”?? No. It makes her a slippery, deceitful c~~~ who expected her word (and vow) to be taken at face value in a situation where she just shouldn’t do that. Deceiving someone doesn’t make a woman smarter – in either case – whether she wins or loses. And it would be stupid to convince themselves they are smarter, because one the best signs of intelligence is admitting you don’t know anything at all. The more you know, the more you realize you DON’T know.

You know who said that? Aristotle and Albert Einstein.
Both MEN. Definitely not a f~~~ing woman.

So it follow that women are not as smart as they pretend.
Google “men are stupid” and you will find millions of results “it’s official men are stupid”.

You find that answer on the internet. Using a tool called “Google”. Using a computer and a wireless internet signal created, conceptualize, invented, constructed, manufactured, and installed by MEN. But a woman thinks she’s “smarter” because she totally misrepresented herself.

War does’t decide who is “right” – or “smarter”. Only who is LEFT.

Let a woman think she’s smarter. Don’t even try and disprove it. That’s exactly how you beat her.
Playing stupid is actually smarter and more effective than any s~~~ she will pull.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Okay. Let’s discuss this from the other POV:
I think that someone is stupid when he submits to a different person. The one who submits is stupid for submitting and not realizing that she is not worth submitting to.  So if man is stupid like that, that means that a female he submits to is less stupid ~= smarter

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Russky wrote:

I think that someone is stupid when he submits to a different person. The one who submits is stupid for submitting and not realizing that she is not worth submitting to.  So if man is stupid like that, that means that a female he submits to is less stupid ~= smarter

When you switch the sexes on that, the same doesn’t hold true.
A woman is not “stupid” for submitting to a man.
In fact, it’s great source of feminine power – and fulfillment.

They actually get GREAT pleasure from that. Men do not. When a man submits, he is foolish because he doesn’t realize how much he is harming himself – and her. He thinks he’s doing the right thing….. She will even tell him she WANTED him to kneel and bow down to her. But both don’t understand, when a man permits this, she will be MISERABLE.

The way women pretend to know (and dish out bulls~~~ advice) on how social dynamics, relationships and marriages are supposed to “work”… is so f~~~ing stupid, dishonest and backwards…. and thats’ why there are so many women who single against their own will, and are miserable & unfulfilled repeat failures in their personal lives – over and over and over again.

Women are so stupid at how it all “works”, it’s like they set out to deliberately CULTIVATE these disasters.

That’s why women say the STUPIDEST s~~~ like “I’m happily married – dreaming of divorce”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/08/26/o.divorce.dreams/

And “I dumped him because he’s too nice”…. after running around saying “I just really want a nice guy”.

Women like that are f~~~ing miserable idiots.
And they got exactly what they asked for. A submissive little doggy.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 25]

I see it like this:

– men have vulnerabilities women try to exploit

– women have their own vulnerabilities that men could exploit

If a women tries to exploit my vulnerabilities I am aware of a lot of the tricks they use. Then it is open season and I will exploit her vulnerabilities. Women don’t expect men to be able to do this, because most men don’t. They are easy targets. If a woman tries to exploit me, then at the very least she will feel a great deal of psychological pain. She will think twice before she does it to another guy. I was never a pua, but I know how women work and I take it to a different level that’s not just about getting them into bed.

I go my own way, but I also learn to exploit women’s vulnerabilities because I accept I will still have to interact with them to some degree in my every day life. The simple act of ignoring them and not giving them attention is very powerful in itself.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Possessing the ability to lie, deceive, and manipulate for ones self gain isnt a metric for intelligence. Those ignoble qualities are a reflection of a lack of integrity and honor.

If a man trusts someone, it is more than likely a reflection of his OWN trustworthiness. Liars and manipulaters dont trust others, because they assume others operate as they do.

I dont view people who have no honor, integrity, and who are liars for self gain as “smart”. I view them for what they are: liars, manipulaters, and selfish.

Why would anyone give “credit” to anyone given to those behaviors?

If a guy was “played” in a personal relationship, I wouldnt compare it to business. The fact that we now have to treat personal relationships like business, demonstrates how f~~~ed up our society is.

No, I would say a woman who uses dishonesty, manipulation, and deceit to get her way is NOT smarter, shes resorting to toddler mechanisms to get HER way.

Resident cynic.

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