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Brothers…..
TLDR….Women bad make me bad MGTOW good make me good.
I’m new here. Brand new. and I absolutely love it.
My Story…….. I was a white knight for most of my life. I’m talking Lilly f~~~ing white. A glowing albino of misdirected chivalrous energy. As if I was preparing myself for saint hood or something. Always going out of my way to show every woman I’m virtuous, willing, able, dependable…..a man of IMPECCABLE moral character. Rock solid.
Need help moving?…anything for you sugar. I’ve got a big truck.
Short on cash for some reason or another?…here ya go I’ve got an extra 100 bucks.
Scare away some ex or creep?…Love to. My specialty.Id offer my services to strangers. Young, old, anyone that I could….Of course socially I scored zero points with this lifestyle. I felt good tho. Like I was doing right. The select few that mercy laid me or feigned a monogamous relationship monkey branched my ass at the first possible opportunity. Every Goddamned one of those broads used me for an door mat in hindsight. Out of necessity, I would shag a post-waller or a gutter slut fresh from the dregs at bar close every other month or so but the choice women were consistently unresponsive to my advances and I remained unhappily single.
I kept this head-banging, degenerate behavior up into my late 20s. I had faith the right girl would find ME! This is obviously not how it works. Well one day someone found me. I rue that god forsaken day. And ironically I’m blessed for it and eternally grateful it came. Turns out, she was a stone cold pit demon. If the devil is the father of all lies this was HIS mother. My pure and giving soul must have been irresistible to her….. white f~~~ing gold. This girl was different for me. Those other pretty gals used me and I knew it. I finally felt appreciated. This one was hotter than some and real party in the sack. She was in Law school and came from a wealthier family. All qualities that were appealing at the time. We dated for 6 months and married within a year of knowing each other.
I spent 3k on a ring. Lots of money for a brick mason. She bought my ring at a pawn shop. Why she told me this I do not know. It was Cheap tacky junk s~~~. I’ve never owned ANY jewelry before & I didn’t mind the low quality hardware. Love was the most important thing. I was a family man now. A child soon followed. A son.
She spoke of staying home with our son while pregnant. “The first years are the formative years and the child should be raised by his mother, not by strangers in day care”. “I should quit my job”. Sound logic to me. I happily agreed.
All the while she had her night classes 2-3 times a week. Still working towards a law degree. I happily handed her every check, cash and financial scraps people paid me. She was in complete control of the finances. We never fought. The house was clean. The boy was healthy. Everything was humming right along. My American dream.
One day I asked if she gets report cards in college like I did when I went to school. She said no its all electronic now. Ok, I thought. Well how are your grades? We never really talked about it much. They’re OK she said. She said studied in the daytime while I’m at work so she could spend time with me. After a bit of persistence on my end she produced a piece of paper from 8 months ago that showed she failed every single class from her second semester. Not a single passing grade. This is my first red pill moment(It was a little pill compared to what would come later). The whole thing was a ruse. The money I spent on her books and tuition was very real. Who The F~~~ is so stupid to think tuition is paid in cash. I was. She eventually admitted her grades were so poor they would not accept her for a third semester.
Her attitude became quite pompous and resentful. As if it was my fault for impregnating her and the child took away from her study time. My Fault she lied about where she has been going instead of school. Wait…..”Where WERE you going instead of school”? Never a straight answer. Never one. Family and friends took up the slack for her where a bouts. They all knew. This went on for months. I was hoodwinked. A chump.
Only the brightest white knight could possibly forgive this transgression. But I was a family man. Id never abandon my son. Soon I withdrew from having any dealings with her and her family. I left but I was still there. Soon I was couch bound at night sleeping with the dog. Living with a disconnected stranger in a house full of s~~~ I kept buying. Nice Cars, Clothes, furniture, computers and all the household bills were squarely on my shoulders. We were making it. Never really sweated a bill. We even had extra money for a pizza once a month or so. & The boy Had a mountain of everything plastic that china ever made. She had several pair of warm&fuzzy pajamas and many bath robes. Her daily attire.
She soon became bored of her pathetic and lethargic lifestyle and wanted to get a job just to get out of the house. Extra money would be nice. The boy was enrolled in preschool and she began working in a downtown high rise for the federal government. The buying of fancy dress up clothes was now in order. My pleasure. I want my wife to look good. Im a good man. (I should have been hung)
Six months later I almost was. We were watching the Lakers game. Her phone rang. A woman’s name but a mans voice. I took the phone and broke it in half. She went ballistic. Left the house. I went to bed. Six squad cars returned. The door was kicked in. Cops dressed up like the bad guys off GI Joe came in with machine guns. I was arrested on kidnapping and domestic violence charges. Vile charges that were later dismissed. She had fabricated a series of events claiming a long history of abuse, and mental problems on my part. And that I was Fleeing the city with the boy never to return.
I spent 4 short days in jail with many other good men telling me what’s coming next from the corrupted legal system. That I’d get off easy if I plea. First time offender. Lawyer says the same thing. I plea. Charges dismissed upon completing Classes. Probation. Restraining order. Supervised visits with my son. Fines. Child support. A duffel bag of belongings and no access to my home. A month Living on friends couches and eventually resettling with my aging parents 2 hours away.
That’s who I was. Who I used to be. That’s what happened and I f~~~ing deserved worse for letting her get away with what I did. That was 6 yrs ago. Seems like 6 thousand. I’ve severed contact with anyone involved in the situation. Disgusting people our mutual friends turned out to be.
I trained my brain and body constantly to keep my soul strong and my mind off things. I read History, politics & the classics. I got sharp, keen and Business flourished. My white knight integrity was always a benefit in business. Go Figure. Contacts were happy to have me back. New opportunities presented themselves because I had demonstrated reliable character.
Socially I turned into an animal. I took ZERO s~~~ from anyone for any reason. I looked to start ruckus in bars to embarrass manginas and claim their women for the night or week or month. What ever I chose. They loved it. Begged for my company. I was a mad dog. Pussy fell from the sky. Whiskey flowed like water. I made it a point to sleep with the friends of the women I was sleeping with. Their cousins, neighbors, co-workers. If a post-waller gave me the bedroom eyes Id only make her the evening treat in order to find out if she had legal age daughters, nieces or whatever I could sleep with. I was a thermo nuclear F~~~ machine. This lasted for a good 5 years.
Actually It just stopped. Like a week ago. I simply grew tired of it. Of dealing with women. They’re played out. I have nothing left to prove to myself. The scars on my heart were washed clean by orgasms of bleach blondes with breast implants that could never pin me down for so much as a goddamned straight answer or a single kind word.
I just turned 38….my boy is 10. He is amazing. Brilliant. Growing up well because I spend considerable time with him. We fish, trap, talk straight to eachother and cook healthy food together….for two
Things are ideal now. I’ve decided to stop with women while I’m ahead.
The world is a beautiful place. I have been consumed with dogging out hoes for far too long. I’m going monk mode for 6 months to clear my mind and allow new ideas to flourish.
Fraternally yours, JKZ
* In honor of RJ, CC, and all my brothers who talked harsh truth to me when I needed it the most. Ill pay it forward god willing
Yo topshelf, thanks for the great intro..you are singing my song brother , welcome !
take a time out from the craziness and glad to hear your son has a man to guide him .
enjoy the site ! looking forward to more from you .. cheers mate !Thank you brother. Thanks for reading. Keep up the good work
I simply grew tired of it. Of dealing with women. They’re played out. I have nothing left to prove to myself. The scars on my heart were washed clean by orgasms of bleach blondes with breast implants that could never pin me down for so much as a goddamned straight answer or a single kind word.
This rings soooo loudly to me. Though I have not gone through much of what you did, I feel it would have been inevitable.
TLDR nothing. I read it twice. TopShelf intro from a top-shelf guy. Im actually MOTIVATED right now.
She spoke of staying home with our son while pregnant. “The first years are the formative years and the child should be raised by his mother, not by strangers in day care”. “I should quit my job”. Sound logic to me. I happily agreed.All the while she had her night classes 2-3 times a week. Still working towards a law degree. I happily handed her every check, cash and financial scraps people paid me. She was in complete control of the finances. We never fought. The house was clean. The boy was healthy. Everything was humming right along. My American dream.
So cliché. I know several wives like that. For some reason they all want to be Pilates instructors. One in particular. At the top of her “career” but it was a career in the arts so as she aged her body couldn’t do it forever. So she married a financial beta, popped two kids, and “wanted to go back to school”….. to get a degree ….. in some useless subject. I s~~~ you not.
Had an affair behind his back. He was the clean model husband who wore pink polos in damn near every family photo. The poor guy had no idea she was getting dicked left and right. (not by me tho)
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The Lakers game part really p~~~ed me off. I said “GAWD!!!” out loud while reading it.
Thank you for leaving this epic piece for others.
Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous0Welcome Topshelf,
Sounds like you’ve got things under control. Have fun in and hope to hear more from you.That’s what happened and I f~~~ing deserved worse for letting her get away with what I did.
I do not believe so. When you are living with an entitled bitch who leeches off you and thanks you by sending you to the hell that is the “justice” system, she is the one that deserves the worse. And she’s going to get it when she slams head first into the wall. Maybe then she will realize she should have been more grateful for your generosity and treated you with respect.
Trust me, you don’t deserve it at all. Because when you compare your actions with her actions, you are worth more than her.
While reading the first part of your introduction, I thought I clicked the wrong key and was reading one of my own MGTOW posts.
I lasted a few years as a Brick Mason and a couple years before that as a laborer. A motor cycle accident ended my career. Nevertheless, mixing good mortar is an art form. Building and working on scaffolds safely takes a lot of skill and courage. Brick Masons are Bad Ass.
You are not alone, especially with your earlier choices. A lot of us have been brainwashed into being White Nights. Too many good men can’t stop themselves and choose to live in Blue Pill Hell, even when they are single. A lot of guys I know remarried after a bad marriage. The important part is that you are aware of the problem and you are no longer doing it.
The White Night indoctrination was strong with me, even after my divorce. For deprogramming, I would carry a card around in my wallet which said, “I WILL HELP MYSELF TODAY. EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE REFERRED OUT.”
The hardest part was forgiving myself for being a fool for women and allowing myself to be manipulated so easily.
Here are some words of advice:
Following the “Golden Rule, do to others what you would have them do to you,” is good for the soul.
Women encourage men to do the opposite.
Here are some words of warning:
In time, you may come to understand that victimizing another man is wrong, especially when women reward us for it.
Even “embarrassing a Mangina” is just doing the bidding of the Gynocracy. It is really the other side of the White Night coin.
And picking bar fights is retarded.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Thanks for welcoming me to the pack. Feels like the halls of justice in here or something. I get a founding fathers vibe going on. Wise men discussing brilliant things.
I found mgtow 4 days ago while reading the comments section on a drudge article. My brain dosent do acronyms. So I looked it up.
Valhalla commenced.
I aint goin no where.
Welcome!
….my boy is 10. He is amazing. Brilliant. Growing up well because I spend considerable time with him. We fish, trap, talk straight to eachother and cook healthy food together….for two
Your boy is lucky to have a dad like you!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

Anonymous42Fantastic intro! A real as it gets! I can relate to the changes of heart that overthrew you! We’ve been there brother! We’ve all been there!
No question about it gentlemen, this guy is all b~~~~, no troll!
Welcome to MGTOW, we’re delighted you joined! Make yourself at home!
Anonymous5There is a saying:
“That from the ashes comes that who has no presendence in the world yet will change everything for enternity and no one will no the grave of that man”
You just moved the world. Excellent post. She has a storm coming.
F~~~ing epic intro. From white knight to anti-paladin to MGHOW.
I am glad Duke commented because somehow I missed this gem when first posted.
Welcome to the forum!
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."Truly entertaining intro, be welcome TopShelf.
Had to laugh really hard about the “Thermo Nuclear F~~~machine”. Still shaking.
Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche
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