Where to move

[EGParticipant 1851]

I know there is no such place as the Land of Only Nice People, but some places are better than others. So here’s a question for all: if you were to move AWAY from New York to find someplace (in the US) that’s a little more sane, where would that place be?

[HermitParticipant]

Any place would have to be preferable to NY. Hard to say without knowing what you like and what you require in your life, but I’m very partial to the rural area where I live in Kansas. Life’s pretty slow and laid back here. If I see more than a dozen cars on my way to and from work, that’s heavy traffic for me.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9540]

Florida. Nice weather year round, no state tax and Orlando theme parks and beaches surrounding the state.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[EGParticipant 1851]

Hermit wrote:

Any place would have to be preferable to NY. Hard to say without knowing what you like and what you require in your life

I don’t need anything remarkable, just the sorts of things someone might like if he says the sorts of things that I say here. The Midwest is nice. I lived there for a few years and although the place is more conservative than the Northeast I was never made to feel unwelcome. Quite the opposite. Perhaps not a big city like I would have enjoyed in younger years, I live in a city now and city life has lost its luster. If not for my job I’d be a hermit for sure.

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

Florida. Nice weather year round, no state tax and Orlando theme parks and beaches surrounding the state.

Florida is high on my list definitely. Old New Yorkers end up in Florida a lot for some reason. I’m not old yet but I’m thinkng ahead.

[EGParticipant 1851]

Any destinations that are more MGTOW-friendly than others?

[SpleeferParticipant 958]

Well I would start with firearms rights. I own many outlawed guns or accessories that are banned in California and other states. Look up firearms rights and that will lead to better ground for Mgtow. Not a foolproof method, but a good starting point.

Galatians 5:1 (KJV) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

EG wrote:

Any destinations that are more MGTOW-friendly than others?

Well, the more rural you go, the more mgtow is appreciated and actually, for men, more required. mgtow can easily pass for independent stoic conservative introvert. Can always be not too far away from a major city.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

You can’t go wrong in Midwestern cities.
I recently moved to the southwest and I like it here, too.
As far as being MGTOW and gay, I think anyplace without a lot of liberal schools or an excessively metropolitan feel would be welcoming to both.
Midwest or Southwest, excluding cities in Cali, of course.

[EGParticipant 1851]

bstoff wrote:

Midwest or Southwest, excluding cities in Cali, of course.

Yes Cali is out of the question.

[Anonymous 1]

I would be cautious about lists that show “best states to live” or “best cities to live” or “best places to retire,” etc. These have various weighting of attributes…some you may not care about. For example, you may not care about availability to mass transit, number of museums, universities, etc. I suggest you look at your own specific attributes you find most important, and weight those as you make your own ranked list.

Here are some things you might consider:

Some states have a population that is moving in a direction skewing the ratio of producers vs. takers…New Mexico would be an example…and will continue to move in the wrong direction. South Texas, Arizona, California, and perhaps Florida may follow this trend. This means elevated taxes on the producers.

Some states have many great areas with great people. Unfortunately, there are pockets (Democrat urban areas) that suck the life out of the state. Look at Virginia. You would think that with 80% of the counties going conservative, the state would be “Republican.” Not so. There is such a population in the 3 counties that surround the cesspool of DC that that population plus inner cities drives the whole state blue. Look at this 2016 map. The state looks red, but it went to Clinton. The state politics reflect that, too. The Gov, Lt Gov, and Atty Gen are all liberals, because all the red counties cannot make up for the handful of urban liberal spots. Other states have similar problems. Look at how Florida tilts. Dem states will have to tax producers to pay for the give-aways to the takers.

Of the top-ten “most dangerous cities” in America, according to Forbes, all have Democratic mayors. Those cities are Detroit, St. Louis, Oakland, Memphis, Birmingham, Atlanta, Baltimore, Stockton, Cleveland and Buffalo.

Most Conservative States (in order):

Wyoming, Alabama, Tennessee, North Dakota, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Idaho, South Dakota, South Carolina, Missouri.

Most Conservative States By Population 2019 (in order):

Mississippi, Alabama, South Dakota, Wyoming, West Virginia, Louisiana, Utah, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Idaho.

Most Conservative Cities (in order):

Mesa Arizona, Oklahoma City Oklahoma, Virginia Beach Virginia, Colorado Springs Colorado, Jacksonville Florida, Arlington Texas, Anaheim California, Omaha Nebraska, Tulsa Oklahoma, Aurora Colorado.

Best States for Gun Owners By Population (in order):

Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming.

States that do not collect state income tax:

Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, Wyoming.

States with the lowest taxes on the highest tax bracket (in order):

North Dakota, Arizona, New Mexico, Alabama, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, Kansas, Maryland, Virginia.

States with the lowest cost of living (in order):

Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, New Mexico, Tennessee, Michigan, Kansas, Georgia, Wyoming.

States with the lowest combined state sales tax plus average local sales tax (in order):

Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon, Alaska, Hawaii, Wyoming, Wisconsin, Maine, Virginia.

This is a very interesting website. SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN to get to a large number of lists. The lists are usually able to be sorted. Note, some appear to be place-holders for future use.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5065]

EG wrote:

I know there is no such place as the Land of Only Nice People, but some places are better than others. So here’s a question for all: if you were to move AWAY from New York to find someplace (in the US) that’s a little more sane, where would that place be?

Colin’s bedroom.
We’ll have the move the bodies though.
I will even put up a rainbow flag for the resident f~~ to make you feel at homo.

[EGParticipant 1851]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

EG wrote:

I know there is no such place as the Land of Only Nice People, but some places are better than others. So here’s a question for all: if you were to move AWAY from New York to find someplace (in the US) that’s a little more sane, where would that place be?

Colin’s bedroom.We’ll have the move the bodies though.I will even put up a rainbow flag for the resident f~~ to make you feel at homo.

Only if you get to be the girl.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5065]

EG wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

EG wrote:

I know there is no such place as the Land of Only Nice People, but some places are better than others. So here’s a question for all: if you were to move AWAY from New York to find someplace (in the US) that’s a little more sane, where would that place be?

Colin’s bedroom.We’ll have the move the bodies though.I will even put up a rainbow flag for the resident f~~ to make you feel at homo.

Only if you get to be the girl.

Yes, I’m the submissive one. As long as you straddle without a rubber John and like a Duracell, go on and on.

[EGParticipant 1851]

Christmas is cumming.

[EGParticipant 1851]

Anonymous wrote:

I would be cautious about lists that show “best states to live” or “best cities to live” or “best places to retire,” etc. These have various weighting of attributes…some you may not care about. For example, you may not care about availability to mass transit, number of museums, universities, etc. I suggest you look at your own specific attributes you find most important, and weight those as you make your own ranked list.

There’s no shortage of lists curated by writers who put their own slant on it, now doubt. Polls have margins of error, too. I figure the best way to sidestep these gaps and inaccuracies is to query MGTOW directly and see what the temperature is regarding various places. Being mid-career, my next move sort of has to be an important one and I wouldn’t want to make the mistake of moving to a place horrible like, say, Portland by virtue of cluelessness. (Full disclosure: I’ve never been to Portland and I only hang it out as an example because of its abundant bad press.) I’m perfectly at home around rural Podunk people or city-slickers, although I’m preferring the former as I age. This is a factor I’m considering.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Well E.G, I think I would move where my friends are. And where people you at least know live around. A job sure is important, but I think that if you are going to pick a place to move? I would pick a place that with dirt cheap homes. Maybe even a town that was close to being abandoned.

I like industrial area’s. But I like places that had old or abandoned places where you might have to drive 20 miles out just to get to work. Or work 100 miles away out of town, stay at some room while there, and get back to home and relax.

For me its all about security. How well can I fortify my area so that I know what is going on all around me. I’m stuck where I am taking care of family so I have to make the best of it.

But if I had the chance? I don’t think I would move into any home for a long time. I like being on the road. And I would prefer to live out of motels on my job like I was all around the usa.

But an old town with only a few people, and a place I can either take over restoring a workshop or an old property would be nice.

Something with a stream. And something I won’t worry about anyone around me. Satellite uplink, and maybe some long range wifi or laser uplink. I would like to have a place that I could open up a gas station dinner auto repair style place. Just a mash up of shops near by. Something that is more of a getaway of sorts.

I always wanted to run an inn of some sort. Or a place that seems so much like a home, its hard to tell its a hotel or resort. Course, I always like watching Belvedere so..

If its a semi windy place? Great! Wind turbines!

The Perfect place for me? Would be a place that I could work and build what I want and enjoy and even share some of it. I would love to purchase some OLD large factory, or just a warehouse. The bigger the floor plan the better. But out of the way.

The idea would be to use that space to make money. But even more so, make it beautiful. And keep it that way.

I want a place that when I leave, the things I built will be left behind for people to enjoy. Maybe even featured in some magazine.

I have this image in my mind in what I thought my life was going to be like. And I want that image to come true.

As for where? I don’t know. Sad thing is, I never found a place yet that I want to call home yet. Maybe one day.

Sometimes, it just best to just move far away.

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[AutoliteParticipant]

Financially, I couldn’t afford to uproot and relocate. I guess I’m just stuck where I am. If it were possible, I’d like to live in Alaska! I think it would be one of the most desirable places to be but I am told that it is very expensive to live there.

If I had to leave where I’m living now I’d probably just buy a camper and live on the road. I can see that lifestyle becoming more common as housing becomes less and less affordable…

[EGParticipant 1851]

Autolite wrote:

Financially, I couldn’t afford to uproot and relocate. I guess I’m just stuck where I am. If it were possible, I’d like to live in Alaska! I think it would be one of the most desirable places to be but I am told that it is very expensive to live there.

Any move isn’t happening within the next year or two, that’s for sure. I’m thinking down the road.

I’m visualizing a different setting when I walk out my front door into the world every day. This comment here stirs a couple different lines of thought:

Autolite wrote:

If I had to leave where I’m living now I’d probably just buy a camper and live on the road. I can see that lifestyle becoming more common as housing becomes less and less affordable…

I can visualize myself living a more fluid lifestyle such as that of a traveling professional of some kind, staying in hotel rooms and never planting deep roots again. That lifestyle is enticing in fact. As it is, my footprint is small and if I had to, I could store all my stuff in a 4×8 storage bin. I know this because I’ve had to do it during a prior breakup while I got myself established in a new spot of my own. Important takeaway: it’s good to know how much space all your sh!t takes up if you have to pack it into storage. 4×8 is the magic number for me. Fortunately my flat doesn’t look empty because every item I do own has a use, and as for decorating, I can decorate better than any woman. It’s part of the package-deal I got handed by Mother Nature. 😉 And if I had to squish it all into a small, cheap storage bin in order to live and work on the road, that could easily be done.

I could also visualize something more settled because I am, after all, middle-aged now and I don’t have as much spunk as I used to have to pick up and move around. So what do I want to see when I walk out my front door? Well….to answer that question I’d have to first describe what I see now. My apartment is gorgeous. Plus its sentimental because I already picked up and moved away from New York once when I was fresh out of college. I lived the Midwest for five years, and then I moved back home to New York. And when I moved back, this building is where my first apartment was and that was over twenty years ago. Being out of the closet by that point, it’s key to note that my landlord here is gay and I live upstairs from a very busy gay bar; a hub of the ‘community’ as it were. And I’m right downtown on a busy main nightclub and restaurant corridor that is this city’s magnet for lgbt’s and artists and musicians and, yes, lots and lots of blue-pilled f*cking people everywhere. This has been my neighborhood on-and-off for the past two decades. I love this neighborhood, but I can see myself aging out of the scene here. What can my older, fatter self visualize when I walk out of the apartment I love and into the rat race? Less angry lesbians snarling at me for showing up in their purview for one thing! Also less bums and panhandlers who are only half a notch below becoming muggers, less slices of pizza stuck to the sidewalk because some drunk college kid tossed it there, perhaps more trees, a stream or pond, ducks, old married couples out for a morning stroll, some fog for the morning sunlight to set aglow as I sip my coffee…

[L. EulerParticipant 343]

Dear EG,

You specify the USA.
Well, in general, USA anywhere is excellent. but it depends on a lot of things. You need deep pockets for New York and L.A.
Speaking as a Canadian from the west…..Texas would be great! (Alberta equals “Texas North”). Great Beef and cheaper taxes….there’s a plan to make Corporate Tax only 8%!! No sales tax and God help the politician that starts one.

“In God we Trust, but all other’s pay cash”!(Specifically Ottawa)

We work our asses off and the money we make we want to keep. We are Capital R Republican….oh I’m sorry that’s capital.. R…WITH BOLD TYPE.

We are like the Lone Star State’s “little brother”. After our recent election, the west has more in common with Boston….we are about to have a “tea party” (No taxation without representation!). Where have you heard that one before?.

Consider Alberta, especially after I vote for a 5% Corporate Tax Rate….yes even Bill Gates and Warren Buffet would want to invest in the “Dubai” of the north. Who needs to bother with “offshore” stuff!

L. Euler

[Sky-OParticipant 18933]

I would move to a very nice place. Kazakhstan (greatest country in the world)

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