Where is everyone

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Doc wrote:

I don’t think we broke any laws with the content here because of freedom of speech laws. Plus we never condoned violence etc against anyone. So we are not a hate group. But the SPLC sorts of under handed moves makes me wonder if they or partners took the site down. Or worse got the FBI to lock the site.

There is quote in Atlas Shrugged about laws:

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

This is clearly what happens in tyrannical societies. There is always a law that we are breaking when interpreted subjectively.
The concept of Ghosting is perfect, however it is not what we are doing here, is it?We trusted this site with our email and credit card. With this information even the most unofficial totalitarian organization (like the SPLC) can blacklist a person.
The 3 letters agencies can directly connect IPs with the ISPs and know who everyone is. I am sure everybody is on some database alongside with every site he ever visited.
It is not what is done with it now, its what can be done with it in the future that troubles me.
But there is no escape from this, unless one goes offline. Smartphone, computers and tablets send a lot of information to the “manufacturers”. Even if you are using a “public” network, they can still connect that activity to your device.
This is not paranoia, this is the technical reality. Almost as if these protocols where ment to do this… Who would say that something developed at DARPA could have such features?

This is correct Clu. If agencies want to hunt us down and bring us to some form of justice we have left crumb trails all the way to our front doors. And said angencies have all the time in the world. I have seen cases like this in Texas New Mexico and Arizona where FBI/DEA/ATF watch drug activity go on for years and years. They don’t nip activity in the bud. No they let the bud grow into a fully fledged tree then take down the whole system. When I found that out I realised governments have another agenda. And that quote from Atlas Shrugged sort of sums that up.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Gravel PitParticipant]

As it relates to this website and the men here, there’s nothing here that is alarming. What? I called them c u n t s?
Now the Stasi are coming? Y’all act like we’re Cartel members or Arabs. No one gives two s~~~s about this website or the men here.

Everyone is being monitored worldwide. All emails, all phones, all the time. This has been true since 9-11 and its a GOOD thing. It keeps the Muslimes from killing us.

I ranted on for about six more paragraphs but Ill spare you that. The point is. We’ve done nothing wrong by complaining about women. No one cares. If anything, theyre all greatly amused by this.

The only people who care are butt-hurt women’s groups.

Brett M. Kavanaugh was sworn in. That was a turning point. I doubt that a genuine doxing of ANY member here would damage his reputation or business. They might catch some flak but I doubt it would affect their life.

If you plan to run for political office, maybe think twice. None of you fit that bill.

[Branched offParticipant 10932]

While man shaming still works, the members of this site need to be afraid. If we refuse to be ashamed, they can do very little to us. It is possible we may suffer a little but not a lot -we have hurt no one and our only crime is inciting free speech and free thought.

Every victory takes sacrifice and we have a just cause that merits a little suffering if called to suffer. One should remember all those feminists who went to jail. They were awkward uppity types who were criminals at the time then but now they are practically considered saints. They were willing to suffer and they were only girls. They earned their victory. If we want to win we must earn ours too. No one here suggested violence but the feminists were blowing stuff up. They were terrorist, yet now they are saints. Victory is what counts in history.

To secure a victory in this case it takes nothing more than for most men to stand up and say “I am no longer a slave to the gynocracy” It is worth keeping that voice heard.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[DocParticipant]

Gravel Pit – I think you are correct. I have never seen anyone cross the line on this site that would warrant a call from any government agency.

KM always made sure any hint of violence was stamped on. He banned people and never relented.

So this begs that burning question – where is KM?? Because if we are confident we broke no laws, then surely KM hasn’t either so nobody will be suing him. Any self respecting lawyer (do they exist) will make it plain to a client trying to sue KM not to bother. There is no case.

So if he ain’t being sued – what’s happened to him?

Mickey – surely you have read this thread and seen I am asking you directly. You said you ‘just got off the phone to KM’ back in August during that lockout.
If that’s so – surely you have some idea what has happened to him.

I PM’d KM in May 2018, I was in California just north of LA. I asked KM if he wanted to meet for a beer one evening. I offered him to decline if he wanted to remain strictly anon but I heard nothing. Nada. Just hope the guy is ok.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[VirgilParticipant 970]

Meant to reply to this earlier. I’m still around, not posting much but was busy last week.

Am curious as to some of the things going on around here myself. Some things haven’t made a lot of sense. Like the notification that never stays closed.

There may be something going on behind the scenes, but no real way to tell.

Gravel pit in response to this.

Gravel Pit wrote:

Everyone is being monitored worldwide. All emails, all phones, all the time. This has been true since 9-11 and its a GOOD thing. It keeps the Muslimes from killing us.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Know that quote gets used a lot but is an ever present struggle. Kind of surprised it isnt a MGTOW classic at this point.

Taking away permanent freedoms to address temporary and potentially created scenario is a ploy that has been used before. One must always be careful what they ask for. And remember that alphabet agencies have no problem bending and breaking the rules.

Generally women are more concerned about their “security” than their freedom. After making them a portion of the voter base this is an expected outcome. And consider women follow herd type tendencies where men follow individual and personalized preference. Making their desire for freedom nonexistent as they are conformists.

Not saying it is wrong to want safety but must always consider the source of that safety. Isnt much of a stretch to have the population broken down into demographics and in “camps” to protect us from the “dangers” of the world.

There is a reason guns made the top 10 in the bill of rights. By extension the use of surveillance to protect us can be extended to disarm the population to “protect us”. Only problem is the people taking away the ability to self protect are the ones set to gain by the populace losing the ability. Have to always consider the larger consequences and the slippery slope angle of argument.

-Virgil

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

[DocParticipant]

Nice post Virgil.

Your point about women wanting safety over freedom reflects the basic differences between men and women.

In the tens of thousands of years we were hunter gatherers men had the ‘freedom’ to hunt while women were ‘secure’ back at camp.

It was the best formula for survival. Hence why women don’t love men. They only love what men bring them because the is what ensured the survival of the species. Can’t provide? F~~~ off and make way for someone who can.

This means we have always been disposable. Literally a throw away item.

Now women are corrupted and that need to acquire supplies from other sources other than themselves is in overdrive.

We can never keep up. So don’t try. WALK AWAY. MGTOW.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[VirgilParticipant 970]

Thanks Doc.

Always good to see how different people interpret the same information. Goes back to those biological differences that only seem to matter when it benefits them.

Yeah, didnt take a lot of skill or coordination to hunt for a berry Bush.

I try to bring some new insight when I post, it doesnt always happen.

Guess some things never change. Women view men as disposable, men get tired of it. Society collapses or war ensues. Society will follow the course and it will all go back to square 1. Then the cycle of nations will continue.

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

[DocParticipant]

There’s that saying that goes;

Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times,
Good times make weak men,
Weak men make hard times.

It goes roughly like that anyway.
But I think it echoes what you are saying in some way Virgil.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[VirgilParticipant 970]

Think that may sum it up better. Have seen a graphic similar to that before. Where it showed a cycle of society that may have been those exact words. Been a while since I came across it.

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Virgil wrote:

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Doc wrote:

Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times,
Good times make weak men,
Weak men make hard times.

Jesus, yall have to be kidding me. Clever lil adages dont sum up complex things… That whole “Hard Times make strong men is MALE SHAMING hardcore… come on… Its bullcrap generational shaming..

“Those who would give up essential liberty.”. Im not giving up essential liberty just because the Patriot Act exists. Its doesnt affect my life in any respect, mainly because Im not a criminal. “…to purchase a little temporary safety” Guarding against suicidal Islamic bombers is not little or temporary. They have been trying to kill us for 1000 years. 911 proved that they will want to eradicate Western People from the Earth.

So while I love Ben Franklin’s little dose of wisdom, it aint exactly applicable to this instance.

As stated before. This website is Men Talking… that’s it. Alphabet Agencies dont give a s~~~ about this website. SO who would sue KM, THE RADICAL LEFT… women’s groups and all the s h i t lords people you hear about on talk radio. Those lawyers and those butthurt political activists will sue anyone they dont like into a legal standstill…

I suspect this website has been “given a hardtime” by retarded Left Radical Lawyers.

HERE IS THE MAIN LIKELIHOOD: Keymaster is BUSY with his real life. He played here for a few years. Then he went and got busy. He designs these sites for a living and has stated before that some his clients are major global companies. He cant afford to tiddle around here tweaking code. He also cant be disrupted by crazy dudes suing him for $5 subscription refunds or lawyers trying to slap lawsuits on “hate-speech” someone made. This is why registration is shut down and why we’re auto-censored to the outside…

We have not seen the last of this website or KM. He will be back someday. Trust me, he wouldn’t design that Crypto MArket News section with Live updating and all that LIVE price stuff… and just walk away and let it derail… HE WILL BE BACK.

We tried to tell that to the group who left but they were already burned out on this site and had old greviances against Keymaster because KM isnt here to run the site everyday of his life… One day though, he will fix all this s h i t, hence the website is still here..

[VirgilParticipant 970]

When thinking about freedom consider that was written in a time before technology allowed for the gathering of all kinds of information. Freedom and privacy are related in this situation. Not freedom in going to ride a harley or fly a plane. But freedom of information. Any scrap of information can be tied to and used in court to ream people years after the fact. Part of why SPLC labeling a bunch of groups as hate group and why it’s so bad. We here know MGTOW isnt a hate group but can make getting a job real hard if it is used against you. Labels can ruin people these days.

The quote Doc mentioned isnt meant to shame. It more so shows that men have a very direct implication for society, remember men build society. If men build it and then it is either taken over by women or men forget how to maintain or improve upon it society falters. More a cause effect thing.

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

[DocParticipant]

Gravel Pit – I admire your straight talking. And you make some great points on everything you picked up from my post and Virgil’s post.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I need to apologize guys. If I came off like a d i c k. My bad. Im only typing away… I hold you all in high esteem as mgtow brothers.

Im dealing with a crazy woman today. LOL . she keeps sending psycho emails to me. I have been totally professional and objective but she is unhinged, like claws to the face style LMAO.

I had to ban her from my business. And since she is threatening and malicious, I can only accept Cashiers Checks going forward. The crazy airbox might try to do a charge-back, probably already will… I always win them though because I get everyone to sign on the dotted line!

Anyway. Briffault’s LAw gentlemen. They try to USE YOU. and when they dont get their way, THEY LASH OUT LIKE A RABID DOG. I tried to play it off and forgive her first ruthless email. But on the second one, I shut her off… LOL

[VirgilParticipant 970]

All good Gravel Pit. That’s the nice thing about talking on here. Different views. Did come off a bit harsh but experience makes each of us interpret things different.

One chance per lifetime per person. They burn you once in business and they are done.

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

I have been here for five years. I will be here as a loyal mgtow member till the last day.

This site has saved my life from endless suffering and the fellow MGTOW friends have guided me in the right direction to true freedom from women.

Thank you to all who have helped me and infinite thanks to mgtow.com, key master for saving my life from endless pain and fransforming my life into a state of permanent happiness and peace.

I am here to pay back if there is some help in anyway I can give to save this site which I respect and admire the most.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Gravel Pit wrote:

If you plan to run for political office, maybe think twice. None of you fit that bill.

Gravel Pit wrote:

Guarding against suicidal Islamic bombers is not little or temporary. They have been trying to kill us for 1000 years. 911 proved that they will want to eradicate Western People from the Earth.

Gravel Pit, do you really believe nine eleven was not an inside job?

By the way, I got your PM. I can’t reply through PM. All is good brother! But I am really curious about that question I just asked.

Gravel Pit wrote:

Im dealing with a crazy woman today. LOL . she keeps sending psycho emails to me. I have been totally professional and objective but she is unhinged, like claws to the face style LMAO.

I had to ban her from my business. And since she is threatening and malicious,

Me too, buddy… and that’s just my mom.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2097]

We will continue to go out own way even if all the mgtow forums on the net are silenced. So many men are blue pill anyway I can’t understand why MGTOW would be a threat to mainstream society anyway. This site is a ghost of its former self but helped me out a lot back in the day and I will continue to check in from time to time still.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I made my monthly visit with my AA cult sponsor. I explained that the reason I hired him as my sobriety coach (even though Im 6 years sober and doing fine) is because I wanted his input on my decisions about sex and women.

I explained to him that ever since I was 27 and got sober, for the last 6 years I have been part of a group of men, like a club that basically dislikes what modern women offer. As a result, everyone in the “he-man-woman-haters club” as I described it, has opted to live lives free of women (for the most part) and certainly will never marry.

The guy had a 20 year marriage that ended in her cheating, resulting in divorce so now he lives alone.

He says Im fine mentally. That there is nothing wrong at all leading a Bachelors life and remaining sexless. The problem he suggested, was that if I lacked any desire at all for women at this age, something might be wrong. I assured him that is not the issue, I love Lady Parts and desire them greatly but the juice aint worth the squeeze.

His parting remarks were, “Living with a woman can be a wonderful life, but if you choose the wrong woman, its far worse than just having remained alone. So go ahead and be sober and alone, as long as you’re happy.”

Im very happy. I think I will continue to avoid relations~~~.s

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Sandals wrote:

do you really believe nine eleven was not an inside job?

I dont think it matters either way. Im a Biological Determinist. I also HATE Islam with a passion. So whether it was them or not, I still hate muslimes and think we should kill them all and eradicate all trace of the Hadith and Koran, the whole thing. I believe its ultimately a Fermi Paradox Filter, a Meme-Plex that is so dangerous, we need to Ice it from the human record.

If people want to believe 911 was done by Jews or shadow elites that control the banks and the whole world, fine. I still hate Muslimes.

[HermitParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Living with a woman can be a wonderful life, but if you choose the wrong woman, its far worse than just having remained alone.

Long before I got married, actually barely out of high school, I lived with a gal. We had much in common. Liked the same music, same food……we could go on long drives and enjoyed hanging out together. We lived together a long time and got along really well. Still, in spite of it all, the relationship would probably have lasted a lot longer had we lived separately.

It was only wonderful for a while. Then we both got sick of each other and living together became the inevitable burden. Living with a woman cannot be a wonderful life, not for very long. Eventually it will go to s~~~. I probably had more in common with this woman than with any other woman I’ve ever been with, but living together is no good. The more time you spend away from each other, the easier it is to get along.

The last time I saw her, after we’d moved on our separate ways for a while, we got along really well, for about 15 minutes. It was great to see each other again and we reminisced about old times. Then it quickly became angry and hateful and that was the end of that.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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