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Some guys seem to get all kinds of pussy easy and other guys seem to struggle to get any. Its not necessarily bulls~~~. Its a kind of Pareto-distribution for women: about 80% of women go for the top 20% of guys. The bottom 20% of women are some mixture of fat, old or ugly.
I’m probably in the lower portion of that top 20% of guys, right along the border. I’ve gotten a fair amount of pussy but not quite to the level of women throwing themselves at me. I’ve noticed that as I’ve gotten older, women even more of an interest than before. I could probably get even more pussy now than I did in the past, but it just isn’t a priority.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I spent almost four years in monk mode after a bad break up and whoops I’m pregnant. I went from alpha to fat beta in just a few short years. Women quit coming around or showing interest. While in monk mode I read and studied all I could get my hands on about intersexual dynamics, hypergamy, game, solipsism, etc..etc…got back in shape, grew a kick ass beard and truly did not and still do not give a f~~~. I am now back to my former self in body and actions, except now I have red pill knowledge. It is both a blessing and a curse to know the true nature of women. Once you know, as they say, you can never go back. So…I am not sure that women are any more DTF than they ever were. It is that they have unlimited opportunity to bang anyone they want based on their addictions to social media and their smart phones. I do not chase them anymore. I allow them to chase me. Most of them I do not entertain as they have an inflated self worth due to social media. I am always amazed at how these fat or ugly girls think I would even consider doing them?? However, when one strikes my fancy I will bang her and turn her into a plate. So, to answer your question it is easier now than ever to find girls that are DTF. IMO what you said below is only partially correct. Like dogs, women smell fear. I don’t know how solid your game is, but if you are doing everything you listed below and not finding these women, you must reevaluate and change your tactics. To get what you want from them you must not want anything from them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah – lifting, frame, game, amused mastery etc. etc. I do all that, but quite frankly, it doesn’t seem to stand up to a great deal of scrutiny in the field.
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I’m a doc who plays sax so when you say, oh, it’s easy to get girls, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
Women love the band. Women will f~~~ the band over some movie star. Especially the drummer…must be the primal beat.
You’re in a rock band and you got chicks…d’oh! lol.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Pussy is easy.
I just go to a place, with my pall, we stop at the door and fool around.
You first doctor.
No no no, doctor, you might go first.
No doctor I insist.
Then we sit, grab a beer, talk about some doctor s~~~.
Is like a sign (huge wallet here).
😩 Women are pathetic.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Anonymous11@HRP: Being a doctor and musician is the ultimate pussy attractor. I dare say you could look like a toad. It would make no difference.
My friends in bands have zero problems getting women even being butt ass ugly(some) and broke(most). They sponge off of women too.
I had a woman tell me she would not consider a man in the 79% percentile when I popped her with the Pareto principle in regards to dating. She’s HB6.
Certainly doesn’t happen to me. Meh!! Can’t say I’m too devastated.
Peace is > piece.
As in previous posts, I have expressed this exact same opinion. I have all of the attributes expressed in the ever annoying modern abbreviated parlance. In fact for my age, I’m exceptional. Most people think I’m much younger because of my body and skin. I have never done drugs and never have been fat. And yes, I have been called unapproachable too. I just don’t see the interest in me that others say they have. If I do get interest, it’s from these ridiculously out of class land whales that just make me throw up in my mouth. I’m thinking it’s much like the chatter that would go around at the track during practice/qualifying days. All yap yap yap until it’s time for the hot laps, then nothing. Can’t make mid field. No disrespect to the other brothers, but I have been a lotta places and a lotta activities. What I’ve found is that most just talk and have no real action. I have tried to get qualified and true answers to this subject and can’t. Maybe it’s me. Maybe I repulse them. I’ll watch a 8 go after a beer gut bloviating buffoon before they’ll even look at me. I mean really. Do they really prefer to f~~~ fat over a guy with discernable abs showing? This is mostly why I have given up. It is inexplicable to me why this is true for me. I never want to be married again,nor do I want A LTR (see, I’ve been sucked in) but I do want pussy. I haven’t gotten to the no f~~~s given point, but I’m damn close. For my own peace and sanctity, I had to just give up.
For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
I’m probably in the lower portion of that top 20% of guys, right along the border. I’ve gotten a fair amount of pussy but not quite to the level of women throwing themselves at me. I’ve noticed that as I’ve gotten older, women even more of an interest than before.
Dude I’ve noticed this too. Women who are younger won’t f~~~ me, but women who are in their early 30’s will.
I fit the following criteria:
6’1″
205 lbs
Above average intelligence
Athletic
Great dental Hygiene
Been told I’m a 7-8 by most women
6 figure income in the near future
Have a sense of humorSomehow, the younger women 18-25 always seem to ghost me. It seems they always find some flaw in me that invalidates me. Oh well, I’ll probably get a turn at bat once the wall approaches.
I have a friend in medical sales, and her friends are freaks. Imagine my shock when I found out most of them are in the 28-35 range…
I think when the wall approaches they really turn up the sexual fervor. I think it some ways it is subconscious. Its like they sense desperation and have to dig their claws into a man. Almost like a cat on the last of its 9 lives.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
If there are places full of sluts is in high school, college and the gym, you hit any of these you are almost guaranteed by the minute to get pussy, if you opt out your chances rely on if your neighbor wants to bang or not.
Also why even talk about getting banged? No one in this forum should give a damn for another man’s notch count. What matters is that you should invest in what makes you happy, chasing pussy never made any man happier.
Here’s a quote for you: Desires achieved increase thirst like salt water -Milarepa.
Women HATE rejection, which is probably why you don’t see a lot of women throwing themselves on the next handsome guy within their vicinity. Nevertheless, if they are single or looking to upgrade, then they will flirt with you if they think they have a chance. If you want to test a woman, then just make small talk with her about anything. If she seems uneasy or distant, then she’s not going to be riding your c~~~ anytime soon.
I’m glad I don’t care about dating/relationships anymore. Too much drama!
This is mostly why I have given up. It is inexplicable to me
Yeah I too have reached this conclusion.
Women aren’t logical, period.
They don’t make rational decisions.
Once you understand how their hamster brains works, they are pretty damn easy to comprehend.
Nothing they do surprises me anymore.
The veil of female mysticism is gone.
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Pussy really isn’t that hard to achieve. I’m honestly more impressed by someone that gets a really difficult achievement in a video game than by someone who gets a lot of pussy.
Had blond, brunette, redheads and some black girls in the past. Later on got it on with a few Asian women. Only thing I haven’t done is Arab, Indian or Hispanic. Just doesn’t seem worth putting on my bucket list. Pussy is pussy. A wet hole by any other name is still just a wet hole.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Although I agree with virtually everything I read within these MGTOW pages, there is one aspect that I just cannot get my head round.
Namely, all the talk about how much pussy everyone gets when they DGAF
What is DGAF?
I would like to hear details of people’s experiences with women who hit on them with the frequency and alacrity so often described herein.
According my experience there’s no such thing as a woman “hitting on men” in the sense we give to such words.
This is more or less my experience:
90% times women do absolutely nothing.
The remaining 10% is so divided:
5% times a woman indirectly suggest that she might not reject you if you would hit on her.
I’m not even sure that this percentage is right: it could be higher, because sometimes their hints are so light that we don’t even get them. I know it happens because at least twice after successfully hitting on women they alleged that they gave me “input” (but I didn’t understand, I hitted on them being unaware of their “inputs”).
3% or even 4% times the hints she drops are more clear: touching your arm and saying things like “you’re an asshole” while smiling is pretty clear, isn’t it? Still, not even remotely comparable to the openess of a man’s approach.
1% times it’s a sexual thing, but EVEN IN SUCH CASE IT’S NOT DIRECT LIKE A MAN WOULD DO. Once a girl grabbed my dick, literally…saying “excuse me” and pretending that it was due the car’s movement (we were in the back of the car, without seatbelts, 4 people in a seat designed for just only 3 persons, and the driver was driving crazy). Even just after such behavior I had to do all the work with her.All the above applies ALWAYS in situations where the woman is sober, but they applies even in the vast majority of cases where the woman is drunk!
The only good thing is also that the two latter categories (strong and clear hints, and “direct” sexual approachs) are NEVER done by ugly women, at least this is my experience. Women who are less than average aren’t going to use the two latter approachs, NEVER, EVER. Not even the very best women, but still those who do it are always better than average, probably because they’re more sure about themselves and their charm.
That’s why monk mode can work and makes sense.
If there would be around women inviting men to dine at their home, and jumping on them in the middle of the dinner (or even just after the dinner) being monk would be stupid, would make no sense and would be almost impossible to be implemented.
It’s just because women ALWAYS expect men to do all the work that monk mode makes sense.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
There’s a passage in one of the Hitchhiker’s Guide books about some fictional monks who spend years and years of their lives building up their mental powers so that they can actually bend and move matter with their thoughts.
Once they achieve this ability, they immediately lock themselves into tiny metal boxes for the rest of their natural lives.
Becoming MGTOW is a lot like that. Once you actually acquire the ability to attract sexual attention without trying (or even wanting it at all), it’s no longer of any appeal and you not only turn it down but actively avoid it.
The more “appealing” the offer, the more disgusted I am. I honestly don’t even look any more…. it’s not self-denial, it’s the kind of revulsion that can only come from true and deep understanding.
Anonymous3Either it happened or not, go your own way and live your life unburdened by c~~~…
Women are far more promiscuous than men a
I truly feel like Neo flying through the Matrix
I’m GenX. We f~~~ed and the women were easy. Very few were fat or tatted up either:) just good dirty fun.
Some guys here get pussy, not that hard really.
I come from the generation of Woodstock & free love & believe me its never free. there is always a price to pay in some form or another. I have a friend in his 50’s who is a drummer & he gets all he wants with sick,drunk “chicks” The last time I was flirted with was by a bank teller when I was depositing some money into my account. only a Monk will know the peace of a Monk. I am not quite there yet,but as I age it becomes easier to choose peace over piece.
Anonymous3According my experience there’s no such thing as a woman “hitting on men” in the sense we give to such words.
This is more or less my experience:
90% times women do absolutely nothing.
The remaining 10% is so divided:
5% times a woman indirectly suggest that she might not reject you if you would hit on her.
I’m not even sure that this percentage is right: it could be higher, because sometimes their hints are so light that we don’t even get them. I know it happens because at least twice after successfully hitting on women they alleged that they gave me “input” (but I didn’t understand, I hitted on them being unaware of their “inputs”).
3% or even 4% times the hints she drops are more clear: touching your arm and saying things like “you’re an asshole” while smiling is pretty clear, isn’t it? Still, not even remotely comparable to the openess of a man’s approach.
1% times it’s a sexual thing, but EVEN IN SUCH CASE IT’S NOT DIRECT LIKE A MAN WOULD DO. Once a girl grabbed my dick, literally…saying “excuse me” and pretending that it was due the car’s movement (we were in the back of the car, without seatbelts, 4 people in a seat designed for just only 3 persons, and the driver was driving crazy). Even just after such behavior I had to do all the work with her.The only good thing is also that the two latter categories (strong and clear hints, and “direct” sexual approachs) are NEVER done by ugly women, at least this is my experience. Women who are less than average aren’t going to use the two latter approachs, NEVER, EVER. Not even the very best women, but still those who do it are always better than average, probably because they’re more sure about themselves and their charm.
That’s why monk mode can work and makes sense.
If there would be around women inviting men to dine at their home, and jumping on them in the middle of the dinner (or even just after the dinner) being monk would be stupid, would make no sense and would be almost impossible to be implemented.
It’s just because women ALWAYS expect men to do all the work that monk mode makes sense.It’s not even monk mode. It’s just do nothing mode. Literally do nothing. Don’t desperately keep conversations going, don’t kiss her ass, don’t ignore any biting remark. Treat her exactly as you would a man, if a man talks s~~~ to you, do you brush it off and then tell him how great he is? Of course you don’t, but that is what everyone does for women. Ignores all their bad behavior because they are so desperate to get her attention and have sex with her, then later pretend she begged him to have sex. It’s so lame and stupid, any man with any experience knows women aren’t out there begging men to have sex with them, dragging them off to bed, pushing the men down and jumping on top of them for sex. But that is what these men will have you believe. That they’re just going about daily life, not doing anything, and somehow women are forcing them to have sex.
The rest of what you wrote, it’s not that it’s subtle, it’s that women have always refused to admit what they’re doing, and always feel they can just deny something. They do it all the time. A woman will take $5 she sees on a table, you can see her taking it, she can smile at you, and then 5 minutes later will in your face deny she took it, if pressed will claim you handed it to her and wanted her to have it, and then become very hostile if you insist she took it off the table. That is how women are, they can’t help themselves, they just lie for no reason. They can not be honest. They don’t even know they’re doing it, they just do it, they do it so much they can’t even tell what actually happened. You can take video evidence to a woman, show it to her, and then AGAIN 5 minutes later she will deny it right to your face, or start yelling at how it doesn’t matter or why she’s being victimized or what bulls~~~ it is that someone is bothering her about her theft. Meanwhile if she overpaid a man by two pennies she will remember it for decades and bring it up all the time like she did some noble thing, and the man better remember it.
I hate even writing about this stuff, it’s so f~~~ing stupid. Sometimes it’s frustrating how inept most men are with women, and how dumb the men themselves are about it. And how desperate men are. Even so-called MGTOW, validating each other about it. It’s not that I’m even mad at these men or anything, I have absolutely no animosity about it, it’s just so goddamn stupid I can’t stand it sometimes.
I just do not see how any society can function while taking the word of women seriously, giving them any authority, and all the rest of the current social setup. I’ve been watching this thing for decades, and I think, perhaps, I’ve reached a breaking point. I mean I have nothing to do with women if I can help it, but their sheer idiocy can at times annoy me, and the fact that men still pander to them so much. I can excuse men under 35, but then men over 35 talking about it and validating themselves by it, just having their lives revolve around this sub-par pussy and basic human reproductive urges/acts, what can I do but shrug?
I hate even writing about this stuff, it’s so f~~~ing stupid. Sometimes it’s frustrating how inept most men are with women, and how dumb the men themselves are about it. And how desperate men are. Even so-called MGTOW, validating each other about it. It’s not that I’m even mad at these men or anything, I have absolutely no animosity about it, it’s just so goddamn stupid I can’t stand it sometimes.
It goes far deeper: all the source of women’s privileges is just because men are trained to treat women better than men, and men are trained to have to do all the work when it comes at sex, just only because otherwise women would never put out.
This s~~~ pollute everything else, influencing laws, customs, everything.It’s not even that “monk mode” is “doing nothing”, it’s more “being somewhat lazy / somewhat apathetic” – “somewaht”, not even “totally”: a man can be monk while actually lightly flirting with a woman for a while and then suddenly stopping it. It’s really displacing and frustrating for women.
The above would be absolutely impossible with women “hitting on men”: they would insist and keep him, invite him, and so on. It doesn’t happen because there’s no such thing as “women hitting on men”, it’s “try to pursue me and I might put out, keep pursuing me enough and I’m likely to put out”.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Otherwise, I may be forced to call bulls~~~ on the whole wall-to-wall foaming gash hypothesis.
How old are you? Were you “out and about” in the 70s, 80s, or 90s? Were you a “twenty-something” hitting the clubs more nights than not and spending too much of your disposable income?
The reason I’m asking is that your experiences are very much at odds with my experiences.
I swam in pussy during the 80s. Getting some trim was as easy as falling off a log. We had no “methods”, no “techniques”. All the PUA manuals you quoted were decades in the future too and most of the pathetic clowns who wrote them were either in diapers or not yet born.
The party didn’t end in the 90s either, I just checked out due to a combination of disgust and exhaustion. Folks are going at it so much that retirement communities in the US are ground zero for new strains of STDs.
Just because you’re not getting any, it doesn’t necessarily mean other men are in the same boat. If you change the circles in which you move, you can start turning down sex too.
The real question is why you would want to do that.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Otherwise, I may be forced to call bulls~~~ on the whole wall-to-wall foaming gash hypothesis.
How old are you? Were you “out and about” in the 70s, 80s, or 90s? Were you a “twenty-something” hitting the clubs more nights than not and spending too much of your disposable income?
The reason I’m asking is that your experiences are very much at odds with my experiences.
I swam in pussy during the 80s. Getting some trim was as easy as falling off a log. We had no “methods”, no “techniques”. All the PUA manuals you quoted were decades in the future too and most of the pathetic clowns who wrote them were either in diapers or not yet born.
The party didn’t end in the 90s either, I just checked out due to a combination of disgust and exhaustion. Folks are going at it so much that retirement communities in the US are ground zero for new strains of STDs.
Just because you’re not getting any, it doesn’t necessarily mean other men are in the same boat. If you change the circles in which you move, you can start turning down sex too.
The real question is why you would want to do that.
I think he was referring to “women very openly hitting on men” not to “men getting the pussy”.
The former don’t happen (unless she’s drunk, but even such case is rare).SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I think he was referring to “women very openly hitting on men” not to “men getting the pussy”.
While true, that doesn’t make his “observations” any less false.
Women hit on men all the time, it’s just that most men are too f~~~ing stupid to realize it. He thinks a woman will hit on a man in the same manner a man will hit on a woman and, when that doesn’t happen, he thinks women aren’t hitting on men. Nothing could be more wrong or more sad.
It’s a failure of perception on his part. Nothing more. It’s akin to someone with a “notch” in their hearing deciding a certain pitch doesn’t exist because they can’t hear it.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
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