Where do you get your strenght from?

[KnechtRuprechtParticipant 3]

Where do you guys get your strenght from? I mean, how can you stand up and walk through life everyday with a smile on your face, knowing that the society gives woman more value? That they are riding the c~~~ carousel while you sweat your ass of in the gym for years? And then expecting you to ‘man up’, marry them and be their personal wallet?
I really try to better myself, hitting the gym since 2 years, and get rid of the crippling fear of interacting with women (kissless virgin here, 20 years old) But at the end, this doesnt matter, because they will never love you the same way you do. The red pill was (and still is) very bitter for me. Can a straight man even find true happyness without women and love? This s~~~ makes me really mad and depressed. I just want to drop all that s~~~ and vanish out of this world.
Sorry for grammar errors btw, i’m not an native speaker.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Women are over valued! In time society will realize that men more important especially in survival of the human species. When men can have children without women this probably be more. You could volunteer, job a club, cycle, take martial arts, etc. Just keep busy and keep growing.

Life is a lot easier without women. I work at home so the only time I see women is when I go to the store, the bank or such.

You might want to write a list pros and cons. Obviously you need more cons pertaining to having a relationship then pros. Write them in order from most important to least. Don’t just think of a list in your head, write them down.

You won’t be happy unless you’re growing.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[braininavatParticipant 95]

For many of us the red pill always remains bitter; the taste is always in your mouth, but the more mistakes you make, the more you realize that the bitter taste is preferable to the alternative.

CrazyCanuck is right that you won’t be happy unless you’re growing, so find something in which you can grow and work at it until you achieve a reasonable level of excellence. Aristotle observed that we are happiest when we are doing things that we are good at doing, so get good at something and you will be cultivating a source of happiness.

Learn to laugh at everything. Laughter is the great deflator of pretense, assholes, jerks, and angry, unpleasant people. The only time I ever punctured the façade of my unbelievably vicious former wife was when I laughed in her face — but it has to be genuine and has to come from deep inside. So learn to laugh. Teach yourself to laugh, and cultivate a sense of humor about the world entire.

If you feel yourself begin to weaken, then get on this forum, read, write, and exchange views with members of a community that understand and sympathize. Or get on Youtube and listen to MGTOW videos. I practically mainline MGTOW videos; you could put a tube from my computer directly into my arm. The instinctive reactions that men have often get them into trouble, so you have to re-program yourself to the point where your natural reaction is one that benefits you. Reading this forum or listening to Youtube videos changes your perspective over time, and may eventually get you to the point where your reactions serve you well. MGTOW has changed some of the simplest aspects of my life, like how I walk down a crowded city street. A man’s natural reaction is to look at the most attractive women. Women know this, and they use it to manipulate you. So I don’t look any more; I don’t give women the validation that they seek, and I don’t give them an opportunity to manipulate me. I have trained my reaction so that I look away, because I know that this will be to my benefit.

There is admittedly something sad about this; it impinges upon our ability to enjoy life. That’s where laughter and humor come in. If you can educate your responses to the point that they become beneficial to you rather than get you into trouble, AND you can laugh about all of this, then you’re doing OK.

I’m not sure if you can find happiness, but I am certain that you can find things to laugh at in this world, and laughing is a whole lot better than crying.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hallo Ruprecht. Ganz herzlich willkommen! Wir können auch übersetzen, aber dien English isst perfekt, so es ist garnicht nötig. Ein grossartiges intro. Thank you for joining.

At 20, don’t give it another thought, and I’m sure you will be rewarded to listen VERY closely to this ».

You cannot see the future yet. But you must take my word for it, it doesn’t last, and gets MUCH better. That recording talks about how it can be very discouraging for guys when they are younger, and how you must NOT allow it to get the better of you. More importantly, it teaches you not to become too smitten with the first girl that pays attention to you.

It’s not your fault.

It’s not your fault.

How to keep laughing and having a positive attitude? It’s quite simple really. Kill them with kindness. Make the effort to be the BEST you can be. When interacting with women, show kindness and interest when you feel like it, and if she doesn’t respond – who cares. Give your attention to someone else. Preferably yourself. You know something they don’t. One day, they will be over the hill.

I knew this girl I really liked for a few years. I was about your age. And all she could talk about was guys who were 10 years older than me. It was like she was rubbing it in and deliberately trying to make me feel unworthy. But I was not unworthy. I just continued and let things progress naturally. 12 years later,I heard from her again. She wanted “Mr Nice guy” to take her out and show her a good time while she was in town visiting. She was about 32 then, and her eggs were drying up. No prospects. No husband. No boyfriend. Looking for the doting sucker I used to be at 19. With no luck.

“SURE!! Let me know what hotel you’re staying in, and if I’m in town, we will meet for a coffee”.

Of course, I make sure I am “out of town”.

When I clicked send on that email, I couldn’t stop laughing. That’s how it works. And she wasn’t the only one. I still hear from ex girlfriends who are married to someone else now, and I just kill them with kindness. “You have 3 kids? that’s fantastic! Sorry about your divorce, but I’m not available. I’m busy. I can’t. Take care !!! ”

It’s so rewarding I can’t even tell you.

YES you can find happiness. But you know, “happiness” is not something you “find”. It’s something you must create. I find happiness in being CONTENT. When you are content, happiness is sure to follow. People who look to “find happiness” (and are always chasing it) are almost certainly going to be miserable – because they don’t know what happiness is. They think it depends on someone ELSE. It doesn’t.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[braininavatParticipant 95]

I would just like add my “Amen!” to two of the KeyMaster’s points:

1) Kindness is the way to go. Be kind to people even when you’re eliminating them from your life. (The KeyMaster’s example of lavishing praise on an ex-girlfriend for her three kids is spot-on.) They say that diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they thank you and ask for directions.

2) Seeking happiness is a sure way not to find it, and it does not depend on anyone else. It is a universal moral truth that happiness comes from within. It does not come from a woman, from a video game, from the approbation of society, or a cool car. These are all wonderful goods if you acquire them without losing your soul, but none of them equate with happiness. Find contentment within yourself first, and then all that you experience in the world will be a reflection of your own internal contentment.

[braininavatParticipant 95]

The ultimate gift is the gift of self.

Cast your bread upon the waters…

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

When you let go of attachments you do become more tranquil. Addictions to money, loved ones, material goods are only temporally happiness. In reality it’s not happiness but a fix. Just like a drug user using drugs.

Did you know mindfulness actually can cure depression and diseases? Meditation is taught in universities for a reason. Meditation isn’t a requirement. Being mindful with pretty anything you do has the same effect. Watching tv it’s mindfulness btw.

http://www.mindfulnessstudies.com/

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[KnechtRuprechtParticipant 3]

Very interesting vievs on happiness and finding yourself, thanks!
So i guess i should do what i’m already doing and keep improving myself, ans seeking happiness in these things.
Thanks again, i really appreciate all the long answers!

@keymaster: From where did you know that I’m German? My username?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

“KnechtRuprecht”. You can’t GET any more German than that.
But your English is much better than my German.

Let women “find themselves”. You will CREATE yourself.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

I used to feel the same way. Before I got my first girlfriend I would always stress about not never having a girlfriend and making a big deal about it. Now that I have had 2 girlfriends and realize women today just want to sleep around and don’t care about men I now learned that I don’t need any woman to make me happy and thus I have found the happiness in knowing that. I know what you are going through though. When I was 20 I was also a virgin and had never kissed a girl. However I will say if I had never had a girlfriend I don’t know if I would feel the same way now though.

<cite>@mgtow.com said:</cite>
luck.

“SURE!! Let me know what hotel you’re staying in, and if I’m in town, we will meet for a coffee”.

Of course, I make sure I am “out of town”.

When I clicked send on that email, I couldn’t stop laughing. That’s how it works. And she wasn’t the only one. I still hear from ex girlfriends who are married to someone else now, and I just kill them with kindness. “You have 3 kids? that’s fantastic! Sorry about your divorce, but I’m not available. I’m busy. I can’t. Take care !!! ”

It’s so rewarding I can’t even tell you.

Good for you. Women need to learn that they can’t be bitchy and ungratful in their youth to certain men. No man should ever give a woman a chance when she refused or would have never dated him in their youth. It is highly disrespectful and is no different than a guy telling a girl in college “sorry but I want a girl with huge t~~~ and who puts out easily” and then 10 years later after screwing countless women and she couldn’t find any men he says “I was a fool back then and know what I want now”. Not only would that be disrespectful to her, but we all know feminists would be telling her left and right to not give him a chance.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

No man should ever give a woman a chance when she refused or would have never dated him in their youth.

I heard a great line (don’t recall where) but the guy said:
“If she didn’t give me her best 10 years, I won’t be around for her worst 40”.

So poetic.

I wouldn’t mind so much – and would be MUCH more accepting – had they said “thank you”…. or “I really appreciate this time with you”, instead of “you work too hard. You really need to get a life”… or as if every bit of attention was somehow owed to them. And as a result, they MAKE you feel nothing when she comes calling again. They do such a good job of this, and make enormous efforts to permanently alienate any potential prospects. It would be like if a man gave every company who offered him a job a great-big-f~~~-you middle finger.. until he eventually finds himself unemployed. Is anyone going to feel sorry for that guy?

The women who deserve it the most are the ones who say “I have a boyfriend” when you just said “hi”.
…. or “you can take me to dinner, but it’s not a date”.

They put up this wall before you even have the chance to decide – for yourself – if you FEEL LIKE showing any romantic interest. She’s already said “no” before you even know her last name, or made any effort to SUGGEST romantic interest. They can rot for all I care.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ManyNamesManyTitlesParticipant 24]

i define or at least try to do so in every aspect of my life. i am who and what i say i am good bad of value or not. these are the first steps. from what many other people have been telling me i must love my self i must take care of my self i must set my own standards of value. knowing that the world we live in seeks to devalue most men and to undervalue them so as to take advantage means that men actually hold a lot of worth and value in the eyes of sociaty. tho understanding that people want to take advantage of you will cause you to understand your true selling point that of “i am of a lot of value” as such i will not allow my self to be bought or sold by self under what i value myself. hope that helps.

[JanglesParticipant 18]

Frankly Man, I’m not sure. I’m not even sure If I qualify a lot of the time. I have to agree with the above though. Throw yourself into personal projects. I’m teaching myself guitar, I write, I make code, and I surf. Terrible at most of those things mentioned but let it be said, ‘sucking is the first step to being pretty good at something’ so pick something you want to be good at. Or something you could stand to be better at and just do. I think there is something to be said in the spirit of men that we like to work. And appreciate a job well done. Even if its just purely for our own satisfaction. I always feel awesome after making a breakthrough in any project.

[mdomParticipant 18]

Strength is found from within. Once you realize that, you’ll find more ways to strengthen it. Ask yourself, what keeps you going? For me, its self development, my goals, experiencing things I’ve never experienced before. Life is short and tie your happiness with your goals, you won’t be disappointed.

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