When Your Date Does This

[Anonymous 3]

Why would you go on a date in the first place?

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Sometimes it takes a while to look into the heart of a woman. Some women will try to hide their true nature from you.

I actually like cell phones. A cell phone demonstrates quickly the character of a woman.

If she spends time on the phone when she is with you- great. You just saved a lot of time and money.

If I see a new girl socially, I will first meet her at a bar. If the phone comes out, I don’t say a word. I just laugh, turn, and walk away.
Damned phones are great.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Hi Doc,

I get what you’re saying here too.

BUT

I can’t help thinking this is all just bulls~~~ and games I don’t need.

I’d rather just let her prove to me on the date she’s an adult and can resist the phone or not. Rather than having to play this game of exchange phones.

Nah, for me, I’m just going to let her reveal herself or not.

I don’t see how it’s “bulls~~~ and games”. It’s setting boundaries. Either she complies or you leave, no skin off your back. Boundaries are an important thing to have. If you don’t set up ground rules from the start, then she’s doing to do whatever, and walk all over you. With this, there’s no hidden agenda. You’re right up front about how things are going to be. Either she’s in, or she’s out. The choice is hers.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Anonymous wrote:

Why would you go on a date in the first place?

Pre-MGTOW, my friend. I was bluepill, then went PUA, then went Redpill, then went MGTOW. Now I’m going MONK.

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

Perhaps leave her with the bill as well. For all the ‘dates’ in the past where the guy has paid.

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

NomadicExpat wrote:

Tungus Khan wrote:

Why would you go on a date in the first place?

Pre-MGTOW, my friend. I was bluepill, then went PUA, then went Redpill, then went MGTOW. Now I’m going MONK.

I’ve gone monk recently in regards to women. It’s winter here anyway. Besides that, I just find the rewards outweighed by the time/energy spending on a woman even for s*x. Listening to them talk… its painful.

For anyone here who feels like relapsing, here is something to remember :

When you are in any social place, for example the gym. Glance at one of those girls who thinks she is hot. She will be gas-bagging to a girlfriend, non-stop TALK. Me-me-me-me.

Now… imagine that, all-day, everyday, her doing that to you. Imagine dealing with her chit. Her temper tantrums, her demanding nature. All the while, she is taking your resources, and monkey-branching to other prospects.

I would rather rub one out, than spend any amount of time with a woman.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

When I was still dating, I would go with the Prefer Peace strategy. I’m sitting at table having dinner. Girl sitting across also having dinner. I didn’t demand that she turn it off, or give it to me. I wasn’t there to be the parent trying to control a child’s behavior. I’m the hiring manager on a job interview (hers). I’m there to observe and make a decision. I didn’t object to anything. I didn’t steer them. I didn’t drop hints. I let them show me who they were.

I knew going in that there was a 90% chance they were going to f~~~ it up. I gave them all the rope they wanted. I didn’t react outwardly either way, but I noticed everything. And I made the decision quietly. Phone comes out and in my head, I’m thinking ‘reject’. Make up mirror comes out at dinner table: reject. Rude to waiter/waitress: reject. Drink enough that it shows: reject. Forget to say thank you when I pick up check: reject.

But I never told them. I let them figure it out later when they didn’t hear from me again. If I had told them when they f~~~ed up, it would have just let them know what to hide from the next guy. I would have only been assisting her in misleading the next guy about what a rude, selfish, ungrateful, alcoholic etc bitch she was.

Just give them rope and let them show you who they are, but don’t tell them how to hide it.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[rebelandboltmanParticipant 640]

Walk out.

[Anonymous 11]

NomadicExpat wrote:

she was showing me how “pathetic” some of the guys are and what they write

They are very, very pathetic, and some downright creepy. Still, hidden under that pile of simps are the 3-5 Chads she did not show you. I’ve researched this matter quite heavily.

[Anonymous 13]

Anonymous wrote:

NomadicExpat wrote:

she was showing me how “pathetic” some of the guys are and what they write

They are very, very pathetic, and some downright creepy. Still, hidden under that pile of simps are the 3-5 Chads she did not show you. I’ve researched this matter quite heavily.

ABSOLUTELY.

It’s a DECOY.

Put you at ease, you can trust her.

She’s trying to show you she’s not into all that crap.

When as we all KNOW the complete INVERSE is true.

[Anonymous 2]

Don’t even date in the first place. All you’re going to get is some entitled bitch who expects you to foot the bill, and is going to see how far she can string you along to pay for s~~~ with the prospect of possibly getting into her panties. Do not go spending your hard earned money on women. Unless she says that she’s paying for her own s~~~ up front, don’t even bother going on a date.

Besides, think about what happens if she likes you: She’s going to want a relationship with marriage being the future goal. You already know that marriage is a death sentence for men, so why even bother dating?

[Anonymous 13]

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t even date in the first place. All you’re going to get is some entitled bitch who expects you to foot the bill, and is going to see how far she can string you along to pay for s~~~ with the prospect of possibly getting into her panties. Do not go spending your hard earned money on women. Unless she says that she’s paying for her own s~~~ up front, don’t even bother going on a date.

Besides, think about what happens if she likes you: She’s going to want a relationship with marriage being the future goal. You already know that marriage is a death sentence for men, so why even bother dating?

I totally agree.

I don’t go dating myself anymore, it’s a waste of time, energy and resources at best. At worst STD’s and JAIL.

SINCE I’ll NEVER marry again, dating is ultimately pointless.

I do think it’s good to get the pitfalls and TRUTH out there though. Some men do learn from others’ mistakes.

And if they are going to date at least they know the red flags.

[narwhalParticipant]

I agree with BrainPilot. I am all for setting boundaries, but that doesn’t mean I need to start off getting to know someone by giving her a list of things that will lead to no second date. If she can’t figure the basics out on her own, I’m not there to help her out. I don’t have any interest in a strategy that prevents her from looking at her phone.

I understand the thought that if you let her know it’s ok to look at her phone a little bit, then she will start pushing for it more and more. That’s fine, it’s my prerogative to either let it happen, and never see her again, or communicate to her that it’s too much, one way or another.

If I did catch a woman staring at her phone, I would continue on the conversation with her, ask her questions that require an answer. Staring at her, waiting for a response usually will make it obvious that she is being rude. You could even ask her if there is an emergency at work or something to make it obvious that you are aware of where her attention lies. You could ask her about what social media she uses, followed by explaining that you aren’t on anything. That should be a good hint that spending her time on facebook while with you isn’t going to go over well.

From my experience, women won’t expose their social media habits till the have you ‘hooked’ in their minds. The want to wait till your at a point where she can claim that she shouldn’t have to give you her attention all the time. She can claim you’re being rude for asking her to get off, judging her. It’s a rather simple response. “When I’m with you and you’re on social media, I want to be someplace else.” No judging, just emotional facts that a woman can’t deny.

Ok. Then do it.

[GeraldParticipant 3648]

I was a victim of the face in the phone partner…and it was what caused my separation… Not the constant disrespect of not paying attention, the total add personality it bred, or the fact I was second to it.

It was the discovery of her telling a “friend” what she intended to do to him, on a trip home I was paying for, to help our family.

That was the day I threw her out. Even if “kidding” it was total disrepsect.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

Look dudes, I own and run three separate businesses and have three separate numbers coming to me. In addition I trade using a broker who calls me quite a bit. I have in toto,9 employees, 3 of whom call me all the f~~~ing time. Whenever I’m in a meeting, or with someone important (Not a woman because I don’t date and no women work for me) I s~~~ the phone off. I have quite a bit of responsibility on my shoulders yet still am able to do this. If cupcake is on her phone, she’s not on you. Get this!! She is saying ” I don’t really want to be here with you, in fact you’re lucky I’m even sitting with you.” What needs to happen is for her to see, when she finally looks up, is an empty chair. Maybe scrawl a little note with the letters MGTOW on it. She can figure it out all by herself

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[Sky-OParticipant 18968]

Real men do not put themselves in situations where they need to compete with a freaking phone!!

Meanwhile, as Beta sits down at a nice $150 dinner that he is paying for, with Pumpkin:

Chad is back at his place, after putting a frozen dinner in the microwave and texts Pumpkin

‘Hey, I want to smash your hole later tonight’

And she responds with ‘Omigosh! That’s sooooo hot!! I’ll be over in a couple of hours’

And she tells Beta that she was just responding to her friend, Cupcake about their friend’s baby shower on Friday.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

I’d rather just let her prove to me on the date she’s an adult and can resist the phone or not. Rather than having to play this game of exchange phones.

Nah, for me, I’m just going to let her reveal herself or not.

You say this as if you believe there’s a chance you’re going to find a woman who is not addicted to her digital attention provision device.

“She’s going to reveal herself…” You may as well say “I’m going to get a dog and instead of playing games of ‘s~~~ on the paper, not the carpet’, I’m just going to let it reveal itself or not.”

What do you think that dog is going to do? The same thing that woman is going to do… show you their true nature. The dog will s~~~ on the carpet and the woman will seek attention and validation from her phone.

You may believe there are NAWALTS out there but I believe if you’re going to spend your time with women, you’ve got to train them. You don’t have to be a dick about it, thus the “game” of trading phones, but you also don’t sit there like an ass hoping she’s going to be “one of the good ones” while a woman “reveals herself” to you by talking to her f~~~boy during your dinner date.

Good luck “not playing games” with women… because unless you take your interactions with women into hand and direct them where you want them to be, you’re just going to get played by them. Every last one of them.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Stargazer wrote:

You may believe there are NAWALTS out there but I believe if you’re going to spend your time with women, you’ve got to train them.

I’d rather train a dog than a woman; the rewards are greater and dogs are more loyal.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 13]

Stargazer wrote:

MATRIX wrote:

I’d rather just let her prove to me on the date she’s an adult and can resist the phone or not. Rather than having to play this game of exchange phones.

Nah, for me, I’m just going to let her reveal herself or not.

You say this as if you believe there’s a chance you’re going to find a woman who is not addicted to her digital attention provision device.

“She’s going to reveal herself…” You may as well say “I’m going to get a dog and instead of playing games of ‘s~~~ on the paper, not the carpet’, I’m just going to let it reveal itself or not.”

What do you think that dog is going to do? The same thing that woman is going to do… show you their true nature. The dog will s~~~ on the carpet and the woman will seek attention and validation from her phone.

You may believe there are NAWALTS out there but I believe if you’re going to spend your time with women, you’ve got to train them. You don’t have to be a dick about it, thus the “game” of trading phones, but you also don’t sit there like an ass hoping she’s going to be “one of the good ones” while a woman “reveals herself” to you by talking to her f~~~boy during your dinner date.

Good luck “not playing games” with women… because unless you take your interactions with women into hand and direct them where you want them to be, you’re just going to get played by them. Every last one of them.

Firstly I don’t date.

If I did I’m not playing the exchange phone game just to try and stop her from texting Chad.

I would want to know on that first date what she’s like and if she pulls out the phone and texts then I’m out of there.

I’m not into training women.

As far as I’m concerned I’d rather train a dog too, at least they’re loyal.

What are you going to do, take her phone every time you’re go out on a date to stop her texting Chad.

F~~~ that noise.

My post was more a warning for men about how bad the phone addiction thing is with them and what to watch and not tolerate on a date. If you take their phone you won’t know if they’d use it or not.

I’d want to know first date so I waste no more time.

[HermitParticipant]

I just got back from the grocery store on my lunch break and in front of me is this little bitch wearing little shorts walking down the isle with her “boy”. She’s got her face in her phone. They guy is trying to talk to her. She says, “what”. He has to repeat himself. I change lanes and head off to a different part of the store. After checking out, I’m trying to leave. Here’s this same couple, phone still in this bitches face. She’s in my way, slowly walking, staring at her f~~~ing phone. I want to run my shopping cart into her stupid little ass, but instead, I wait for precious to finally move outta’ my way.

Maybe I’m just getting old and not willing to change with the world, but I try to have respect for other people and I try not to get in anyone’s way……but then, since I don’t have a cell phone in my face all the time, I am aware of my surroundings and the people around me.

I just want to slap little entitled t~~~s like that.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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