Home › Forums › MGTOW Central › When will the church start attacking mgtow?
This topic contains 56 replies, has 32 voices, and was last updated by 
Frank V. 3 years, 11 months ago.
- AuthorPosts
We all know that church is full of single women and married women who’s husbands/boyfriends don’t believe in god and don’t go to church. And mgtow teaches men to live for themselves and think for themselves. But only small masculinity websites have posted about religion and mgtow. When will the evangelicals see us as a threat and publish anti mgtow articles condemning it as a sin using a small list of points why mgtow is bad like for example.
1 Mgtow teaches men to not marry and continue their responsibility as fathers.
2 Mgtow teaches a do art thou wilt mindset in men (crowley an occultist taught it so a few christians might condemn mgtow for not submitting).
3 Mgtow does not condemn unmarried sex nor mastrubation.
4 The majority of mgtow are either atheist or agnostic.
5 They are not continuing the american tradtion.Will mgtow grow enough in the next 5 years to gain attention from the religious groups? (whom only grow our population) We have seen it happen with rock music and pokemon and that just got more of us into the stuff they condemned. I feel that if evangelical groups give us s~~~ on their 700 club and daystar then we will just grow.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Religious men have been MGTOW for centuries. This is MGTOW in they drop out of society and also don’t marry. It isn’t MGTOW in the sense that you do whatever you want, whenever you want, without regard for anything else. If one wants to make MGTOW out to be some sort of ideology with degrees of purity, and you run out anything that doesn’t match up completely with this, then you will run religion out the door, and start saying “Religious men can’t be MGTOW”. Feel free to do this, and make MGTOW a cult. It will end up dying as most other cults, and some other label will be put on the social trend of men not marrying.
I will also have to say that MGTOW doesn’t teach anything. It is a 5 letter label for a bunch of thoughts and a lifestyle of men not marrying. What you say is true for what “MGTOW teaches” is true as a number of beliefs a number of men going MGTOW teach, but it isn’t true for all. There is a Monk side of MGTOW that will say men should avoid women completely and no sex at all.
There is also a bit of a paradox in regards to “do what thou wilt” because such can end up with men who do decide to do other things also to get fingers wagged at them that they aren’t “really MGTOW”.
If you want a real shorthand version of this non-conformity as done through the Christian religion, it is that my yes will mean yes and my no means no. I don’t agree to anything that bothers my conscience and I work on myself. I attempt to develop character, and realize that there are really stupid things I can do. With this, I seek wisdom. I also am willing to go with what had worked in the past. In this, I am sincere and transparent, and it is a process by which I also seek out the will of God in it. As I see it, there is a bunch in the Bible that supports doing this, and you see it also in Protestant Christianity, and it was also done with monks and hermits in the past. A lot of it gets masked by Christiandom and particularly those who are in politics, or decide to weld themselves to the culture they are in and they drag pointless baggage with them.
And that was far longer than it should. I will also note that I do have a channel on YouTube where I seek to walk the line between Christianity and MGTOW. You can see it here. I have a video planned on Bible verses on ways to find your way in life. Here is the link to the channel (The Sling of David):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOs7g4oEoPwJT_Es-c_inhQ
I would add that “evangelicals” are an Americanized version of Christianity, that tries to map to normal American values, including the glorification of the nuclear family as some sort of salvation for the ills of society.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Don’t know if you guys have seen it, and I just spent 10 minutes looking for it, but there is a well known video of a priest / pastor in a church, pointing his fingers and screaming at men to “MAN UP AND MARRY THESE SLUTS”.
It’s a hoot, and he’s pointing his finger at the camera and getting SO irritated. I wish I could find it. If I happen upon it, I will certainly add it here.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Religious men have been MGTOW for centuries. This is MGTOW in they drop out of society and also don’t marry. It isn’t MGTOW in the sense that you do whatever you want, whenever you want, without regard for anything else. If one wants to make MGTOW out to be some sort of ideology with degrees of purity, and you run out anything that doesn’t match up completely with this, then you will run religion out the door, and start saying “Religious men can’t be MGTOW”. Feel free to do this, and make MGTOW a cult. It will end up dying as most other cults, and some other label will be put on the social trend of men not marrying.
I will also have to say that MGTOW doesn’t teach anything. It is a 5 letter label for a bunch of thoughts and a lifestyle of men not marrying. What you say is true for what “MGTOW teaches” is true as a number of beliefs a number of men going MGTOW teach, but it isn’t true for all. There is a Monk side of MGTOW that will say men should avoid women completely and no sex at all.
There is also a bit of a paradox in regards to “do what thou wilt” because such can end up with men who do decide to do other things also to get fingers wagged at them that they aren’t “really MGTOW”.
If you want a real shorthand version of this non-conformity as done through the Christian religion, it is that my yes will mean yes and my no means no. I don’t agree to anything that bothers my conscience and I work on myself. I attempt to develop character, and realize that there are really stupid things I can do. With this, I seek wisdom. I also am willing to go with what had worked in the past. In this, I am sincere and transparent, and it is a process by which I also seek out the will of God in it. As I see it, there is a bunch in the Bible that supports doing this, and you see it also in Protestant Christianity, and it was also done with monks and hermits in the past. A lot of it gets masked by Christiandom and particularly those who are in politics, or decide to weld themselves to the culture they are in and they drag pointless baggage with them.
And that was far longer than it should. I will also note that I do have a channel on YouTube where I seek to walk the line between Christianity and MGTOW. You can see it here. I have a video planned on Bible verses on ways to find your way in life. Here is the link to the channel (The Sling of David):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOs7g4oEoPwJT_Es-c_inhQ
I would add that “evangelicals” are an Americanized version of Christianity, that tries to map to normal American values, including the glorification of the nuclear family as some sort of salvation for the ills of society.
I subsribed to the channel to help my fellow mgtow out. What you are saying about mgtow monks for the past thousand years is true but i am more referring to the evangelical christian and not the monks who forsaked women due to the various faiths. Most of mgtow in the modern era are usually atheistic or agnostic which the church will see as the evil sinners not doing there job to either god or women (either get killed in a foreign land by tribesmen or start a family. And as far as the do what thou whit mainly the only rules of mgtow are not getting married and no cohabitation aside from that everyone decides for themselves their goals in life.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Don’t know if you guys have seen it, and I just spent 10 minutes looking for it, but there is a well known video of a priest / pastor in a church, pointing his fingers and screaming at men to “MAN UP AND MARRY THESE SLUTS”.
It’s a hoot, and he’s pointing his finger at the camera and getting SO irritated. I wish I could find it. If I happen upon it, I will certainly add it here.
Link it keymaster i want to see this one
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Will mgtow grow enough in the next 5 years to gain attention from the religious groups? (whom only grow our population) We have seen it happen with rock music and pokemon and that just got more of us into the stuff they condemned. I feel that if evangelical groups give us s~~~ on their 700 club and daystar then we will just grow.
Just my take but I think the 21st Century evangelical “frauds” who actually, are the most biblically illiterate crowd in the history of this world, are playing a key role in making MGTOW a viable option for men. They may not be aware but 40 or 50 years from false prophets and mangina’s polluting our churches and pulpits have contributed to men saying to hell with that s~~~.
We haven’t turned our back on Christianity, rather, we’ve said to hell with this feminist driven theology that has infected so much of religion today. F~~~ those assholes if they want to attack MGTOW. It will just result in more men going that route. God has no problem with MGTOW in my opinion so I don’t give a s~~~ what the apostate church of America thinks.
Will mgtow grow enough in the next 5 years to gain attention from the religious groups? (whom only grow our population) We have seen it happen with rock music and pokemon and that just got more of us into the stuff they condemned. I feel that if evangelical groups give us s~~~ on their 700 club and daystar then we will just grow.
Just my take but I think the 21st Century evangelical “frauds” who actually, are the most biblically illiterate crowd in the history of this world, are playing a key role in making MGTOW a viable option for men. They may not be aware but 40 or 50 years from false prophets and mangina’s polluting our churches and pulpits have contributed to men saying to hell with that s~~~.
We haven’t turned our back on Christianity, rather, we’ve said to hell with this feminist driven theology that has infected so much of religion today. F~~~ those assholes if they want to attack MGTOW. It will just result in more men going that route. God has no problem with MGTOW in my opinion so I don’t give a s~~~ what the apostate church of America thinks.
I believe they cause men to leave both the church and christianity i wonder if god whom if he exists would say to those who caused boatloads to leave the faith? Causing a wide scale apostasy because of poor teachings, refuted arguments, and constant bashing of males seems like a sin to me.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
I consider myself a Christian, I have seen too much to not believe. However, I respect those that are not and can understand why, the Christian religion has become perverted and pushes men into marriage. I remember when I first joined this site and read one member writing that he went to church, but kept to himself and essentially gave to Cesar what is Cesar’s and to God what is Gods. Kept it simple and moved on.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
Oh yeah i know what you.mean my mother and aunt always telling me to go to church so i can meet a nalwart i get attack all that time by that church through my aunt and mother who are always telling go to church
I believe they cause men to leave both the church and christianity i wonder if god whom if he exists would say to those who caused boatloads to leave the faith? Causing a wide scale apostasy because of poor teachings, refuted arguments, and constant bashing of males seems like a sin to me.
Not preaching to you Hoss, but just to answer your question, here is one example of what God thinks of these false prophets. It’s found in Matthew 7. 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
There are multitudes of other examples but that’s just one. The evangelicals of today, and there are a few exceptions, are doing their part to tear down society. I don’t blame them for everything going on, but they are doing their part. Their weak teaching, twisting of scripture and cowardice towards feminism have given effeminate men and feminist bitches support in carrying out irreparable damage to men all over the world. They will pay a price one day for that. And I’m not their judge, God is.
Link it keymaster i want to see this one
Enjoy. Prepare to laugh your f~~~ing head off.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.It’s has already begun!
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
Damn keymaster, that friggin guy was hilarious. If I was in the crowd I would be crying in laughter. Whats really funny is at around the 30 second mark, you can actually see his man card lift up from behind his collar and descend into the heavens.
Men can walk away from the church as easily as they are walking away from women. Not even eternal salvation is worth putting up with a woman’s bulls~~~.
Enjoy. Prepare to laugh your f~~~ing head off.
I kept waiting for a man in the congregation to stand up and tell that jackass he’s addressing the wrong f~~~ing gender.
Anonymous3Link it keymaster i want to see this one
Enjoy. Prepare to laugh your f~~~ing head off.
<iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZkaeAkJO0w8?feature=oembed” allowfullscreen=”” frameborder=”0″ height=”281″ width=”500″></iframe>
My favorite part of the video is where he cites Corinthians, in which Paul says it’s better for a man not to marry and that women aren’t allowed to speak in church.
I doubt this guy has ever actually read the Bible. I don’t think any clergy ever read it. Probably if they’d read it they’d start preaching that women who have sex outside marriage are not allowed to marry other men, Christ orders them to only marry men they already had sex with and not corrupt other men. And that’s the nicest instruction, it’s actually quite a bit worse that He says in general about those women.
I don’t know how any self respecting man could go in every week and listen to this guy. And what kind of emasculated pussy would actually give that church money.
If the guys that attended that service had b~~~~, they’d have waited for him in the parking lot, beat the s~~~ out of him, then asked him to “pray for us as Jesus wants you to” or some other nonsense.
Absolutely absurd to order men to grovel to women. He also keeps switching around girlfriend and wife, material success to poverty. His scope shifts are actually quite impressive, most journalists don’t even have that type of gall.
You either believe in Christianity and actually follow the Bible or you don’t. The churches in the West are all a corrupt joke, they aren’t Christian, they are feminist. It’s a new type of religion they’ve invented, and so it lacks all moral authority. You can’t cite your superiority by refusing to follow the Scripture, you lose authority that way. But if these churches actually preached Christianity, the women would scream and then get the government to attack, and these gutless clergy aren’t willing to stand against women and the government. That’s probably the most ironic part of his diatribe, he is projecting his own cowardice and failures onto the other men. He should have been the first one speaking against feminism and ordering women to submit to their husbands. There is no equality in the Bible, feminists used to scream bloody murder that the Bible was misogynist, and these gutless churches turned around and changed the entire religion in response rather than preaching God’s message. God places a very clear hierarchy and outright states male superiority.
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=21816827268
i had just opened a new post about this exact same subject!
That link answers your question ; its a audio file you can listen about some priest making a sermon about Mgtows. So i think it has already started . the Church has started open season for mgtows :p
Ohh lets not forget the Pope saying not long ago about how its male chauvinism that there is very few marriages this days :p….Personally i consider myself a christian and was well raised by my parents to have values and a sense of justice.As a christian i never f~~~ed around outside relationships and will never do so BUT since the only way i would ever have sex with a women would be if i was in a serious Relationship with her and even marriage and i know better then to do such cause we all know That women this days are not marriage material or even thrustworthy human beeings more often then not, then as for me i had no choice then to be what i am today a mgtow monk. if i need sexual pleasure i rub one out. I prefer a lifetime as a monk then marrying one of this sluts of today…
God and Jesus are/were MGTOW. When Jesus got sick of the disciples he simply got in a boat and went his own way.
Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman
The whole church attacking MGTOW theme is kind of expected, but ultimately a non-factor for several reasons imho..
1) MGTOW is for the most part a reactionary methodology to current and real-world laws, economics, and social hierarchy. It is not based off a 400 year old social system, or much older scripture. Now, I am not implying that “new” automatically means “better”, or that old-scripture from ANY religious text is automatically outdated and irrelevant. I am saying however that being MGTOW allows one to first witness, identify, and draw conclusions that correct faults in modern day scenarios. This, as opposed to trying to tie-in meaning or find relevance to scripture or scenarios based off of older settings is proven to be far easier.
2) To tie-into the first point, any religious order that demands for one to turn a blind-eye to the obvious runs the risk of exposing itself as being fraudulent, and reckless in asking for blind faith. One of the definitions of Faith itself is the act of having complete trust in someone, something, or some spiritual deity/purpose where there is lack of proof. This is understandable in regards to attempted to comprehend and acknowledge situations/events/settings that happened before one’s lifetime. However, asking someone to completely ignore what is playing out right in front of their own eyes, is rather difficult.
3) It is quit difficult to try and attack an “enemy” that takes the form of vapor. Henceforth, it is akin to trying to bottle wind in a mason jar, or slice through the fog with a knife. Analogy aside, it is difficult because no two MGHOWs are the same. To be such would defy the very definition of being MGTOW (at least from my understanding).
There are common and shared interconnected and intersecting themes among the individuals comprising the group, but as a whole, one would have to use a blanket assault to attack the entire group. This is a risky strategy as it would immediately expose the ignorance and haughty character of the one initiating the assault. And the last thing any religious faction wants is to be exposed as lacking in understanding.At least, that my partial thought in the matter….
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
Anonymous11Damn, they are attacking us now. Awesome!!!
I ended up a MGHOW despite my handle by treating women way too well over the years. I thought I was doing the logical thing by treating someone the way I expect to be treated. No, Chad wins out every single f~~~ing time.
F~~~ these White Knighting assholes who try to shame us.
Rest assured church leaders, Chads can impregnate enough women to make plenty of dysfunctional bastards for your congregations. You have more than enough beta simps to provide for these bastards and their slut mothers too. Shame the betas as they will respond to shaming.
I should send Reverend Driscoll a request to do a video rant on Fleshlights.
@phoenix: Paul is one of my heroes along with John Wayne.
- AuthorPosts
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
921526
921524
919244
916783
915526
915524
915354
915129
914037
909862
908811
908810
908500
908465
908464
908300
907963
907895
907477
902002
901301
901106
901105
901104
901024
901017
900393
900392
900391
900390
899038
898980
896844
896798
896797
895983
895850
895848
893740
893036
891671
891670
891336
891017
890865
889894
889741
889058
888157
887960
887768
886321
886306
885519
884948
883951
881340
881339
880491
878671
878351
877678
