When a MGTOW takes a vacation

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Hello brothers.

I am back from a little vacation – it’s was great to get away for a while. Wow did I learn and experience a lot; especially when you have gone your own way and just don’t give a f~~~. It is so great travelling alone – never, never bring sand to the beach. And yes, their was gin and booty – to say the least. Here are a few preliminary observations for those who are interested; more to follow.

Needless to say AWALT, regardless of country of origin, social economic background, or age. Older husbands are paying a ransom for no action while getting screamed at. F~~~ that noise. This whole Eastern/Latin/Asian women treat their men better is an absolute myth.

Going your own way has a great byproduct of increasing your SMV and sending the hamster doing backflips. Take a personal experience while I was on vacation. I started a casual conversation with a hot 8/10 22 year old that I was sharing a hot tube with. She exhibited all your typical manipulation techniques from the start; I would always steer the conversation away from her and towards my interests.

During the course of conversation she proclaimed mutual interest in ancient history and astronomy but did not know the most rudimentary facts. She got the vibe that I am not going to engage in pussy begging. She then wants to go and grab a drink. I agree. Of course within 5 minutes she is eye f~~~ing me. Within 30minutes we are making out . I ask her back to my room and she declines as she is with family and does not want to cause a scandal. Ok , whatever – you just made out with a guy that is 15+ years older then yourself that you just met. No anger – just hamster logic.

But she does drop subtle hints that if I rearrange my whole schedule and do all the activities she planned, that things might progress. She never directly asks, but implies. I went the opposite way. I told her I was busy with plans, and might see her around, let her in on my plans and wished her good night. No f~~~s given. Never expected to see her again. The old nice guy me would have jumped through those hoops and paid for her trips. The PUA would have devoted the whole trip to “playing her”. I just had no f~~~s to give and left it at that.

Two days later, after doing other things(which is another story), guess who shows up? We chat for a while, make out again, and again she tries the same activity manipulation techniques. Again no dice. Not changing my plans. I let her know about my day and we part. No f~~~s to give. No anger either – just passive indifference. I am not overpaying for sex in terms of time, effort or loss opportunity.

The next evening, guess who ambushes me while waiting in line. We chat, and then suddenly I am an “asshole” – I never found out why. As Keymaster has stated, you know sex is about to happen. Within 5 minutes she is waxing the old bean back in my room. Absolute best BJ I have ever had. Best sex I ever had- banging a 22 year old is highly recommended; this is pussy I could not have dreamed of in my youth and I am in my late 30s.

Also, so much for not wanting to causing a scandal- she is an hour late for a family dinner and doing the walk of shame. Again, hamster logic.

Of course, now she thinks that I will succumb to everything she wants. Wrong. I stick with my plans and figure that was that. The next evening she is literally camped outside my bedroom like a puppy. All pretext is lost, and a carnal evening is had. She also admitted that she knew she would f~~~ me within 5 minutes of meeting. Again dispelling this whole PUA bulls~~~ of frames and approaches.

Of course, protection and an alias was used. But for all those feminist lurkers, this just proves that MGTOW is not your basement dwelling, socially repressed, losers. Nor are we PUA. We are just guys who have no more f~~~s to give.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

Great story and your username is so true to a red piller. Once you become fully aware of the real world, the background looks like a bad movie.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[JVBParticipant]

Excellent stuff bro. My man. Keep on keeping on. I head on vacation tomorrow. Hope to find a bitch to gobble my helmet too. Cheers

Peace is > piece.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

Of course, protection and an alias was used. But for all those feminist lurkers, this just proves that MGTOW is not your basement dwelling, socially repressed, losers. Nor are we PUA. We are just guys who have no more f~~~s to give.

This is not gonna change even with evidence to the contrary.

White knights, tradcucks and feminists will always view us in a negative light and this ain’t gonna change even if a thousand stories just like your’s came about

And with the part about admitting to f~~~ing you within 5 minutes of meeting you yes this is correct most of the time. If you start out as a nice guy who begs for female approval then you are pretty much f~~~ed most of the time but if you are an asshole who just does not care then you are not f~~~ed unless you become the nice guy over time.

Moral of the story is not to not give a s~~~ and don’t take women with you on vacation.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Glad you had some fun and stayed safe. So true about not giving a f~~~. No decent woman ever will give it up to the nice guy who begs. The No F~~~s Given type wins everytime. Ladies like a challenge – it’s part of their manipulative nature. Simps loose every time. 15 years younger too. Way to go, Bro!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

MGTOW is like catnip to a woman. The more you don’t care the harder they try, and when all the basic manipulations fail, they the give up the goodies as a last ditch effort.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

Needless to say AWALT, regardless of country of origin, social economic background, or age. Older husbands are paying a ransom for no action while getting screamed at.

I witnessed this very dynamic this weekend while on a quick road trip to the north country. I was having a great dinner and beer at a little dive bar and chatting up the locals, when I noticed a couple at the other end of the bar. He looked to be about 55 years-old or older, and looked like a grizzled professor (it was a college town) while she was in her early 30s and rather fine — a solid 7/10 SMV.

And boy, what a bitch face she had. In fact, her whole body and mannerisms and interaction with the “Professor” reeked of bitch, bitch, “I’m-not-happy” bitch.

The funny thing was, he had great composure, as if dealing with the petulant, bitchy grad students he f~~~s on a regular basis was no big deal. After they finished their meal, without a word spoken between them, she stomps out ahead of him. He calmly pays the bill and walks out with a kind of familiar resignation.

It’s very true that a man’s SMV increases as he ages, and so can sleep with much younger women, and, sometimes, even get into a relationship with these youngsters like the Professor above. I know, because I’ve done it a number of times. But just because you can does not mean that you should. OP did it the right way by pumping and dumping, whereas I made the mistake of thinking they were in love when they said as much. But it never lasts with the youngsters, and is fraught with frustration.

No, OP did it right. Because young pussy is f~~~ing awesome, but it’s not worth investing in emotionally.

Great story, Eyeswideopen. That’s how how to have fun!

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Hominid;

I agree that it’s much better to pump and dump. I do have an email contact, and she is a 2hr drive away. She is already emailing. I have yet to respond – and probabily won’t.

I have no aspirations of “love” or commitment or anything else. AWALT. Already cracks are appearing in the foundation.

But the sex was that good; really just the BJ — but I digress. I could do a friends with benefit, until she annoys me and I hit the ejection button. One failed marriage destroyed that illusion forever; their is no going back on that one. I am a more Tom Lykis approach to women – good for entertainment only.

What can I say. I am human and have needs; it would hard to be a total monk at late 30s.

I don’t let them control me. It is like your professor example; I know I am dealing with a petulant child.

Vasectomy is almost scheduled so there will be no oops accidents if I decide to treat her to a command performance over the “long term”. (<6mo is the limit)

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Anonymous 1]

I like this story, shows that MGTOW is the best way to enjoy life nowadays. It would not susprise me if that 22 yo had a cuck boyfriend at home, hence the “I do not want a scandal”.

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

Way to go Eyeswideopen, glad you didn’t fall for any of her s~~~ tests but still got a holiday root out of it. The whole ‘all MGTOW are virgins’ thing is a sad old trope when many of us were once married men or PUA with plenty of notches on the bedpost. If I could travel back in time I’d shake the hand of the inventor of the condom – it has freed so many men like us from a life of celibacy or abject misery raising unwanted kids with the ever-nagging mother.
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#ManOut

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

This is an awesome story and very encouraging. It seems like so many writers say that men have to accept women that are their own age, yet those women are so used up and ugly.

I very much regret the only 22 year old I ever got was my first wife and being super committed I did not touch anything else until we divorced in my 30s. All those years wasted. Then I locked myself down in a faithful relationship for another 12 years…a quarter of a century wasted on 2 worthless women.

Running the math, if a guy was currently 10 years older than you, would it be reasonable to expect to bed a 30 year old using the same tactics if one is in good physical shape and reasonably attractive?

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

hadenough1969 wrote:

This is an awesome story and very encouraging. It seems like so many writers say that men have to accept women that are their own age, yet those women are so used up and ugly.

I very much regret the only 22 year old I ever got was my first wife and being super committed I did not touch anything else until we divorced in my 30s. All those years wasted. Then I locked myself down in a faithful relationship for another 12 years…a quarter of a century wasted on 2 worthless women.

Running the math, if a guy was currently 10 years older than you, would it be reasonable to expect to bed a 30 year old using the same tactics if one is in good physical shape and reasonably attractive?

I have no idea why her hamster brain “chose me”. In the looks department I would rate myself a 6.5/10 at best. I am very athletic with good muscle mass but not a Brad Pit. There were plenty of muscle jocks at the resort that were picking up and focusing on far uglier chicks.

I am just really good a chatting women up- gift of the gab I guess. I am learning to smell their s~~~ tests a mile away- I was super idealistic before my divorce and accepted their hamster spinning at face value. I can’t articulate it well, but once one locks onto the “pattern”, they are all the same.

On a side note, the problem is women are not good conversationalist when you get down to it. I am not saying all females are dumb – I have worked with some talented female specialists. The issue is male intelligence and female intelligence is different. Females are great at memorizing, men at innovative and lateral thinking. When it comes to social interactions I have found that truly brilliant minds talk about trends and abstract concepts, mediocre minds about current events, and lessor minds about social interactions (I.e gossip). Our conversations were primarily social interacts – it was quite vapid. But, like Tom Leykis has said to the effect of – you don’t put you dick in a degree or a brain or a career or a conversation. I tend to agree. 🙂

I did not introduce this story to gloat or brag; just to educate and demonstrate that MGTOW is not by default but by choice.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[FaxmodemParticipant 1415]

Taking vacations alone is the best, don’t have to deal with the bs of someone. You get to do and go where you want.

Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Are you saying then it is wise to Target those with lesser Minds? Ie
don’t go after some super educated chick.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Eyeswideopen-

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

As soon as I became MGTOW, my vacations improved exponentially. MGTOW definitely increases smv.
No more being manipulated or jumping through hoops. No more spending a fortune on drinks for the snowflakes.

Isn’t it great to have the freedom to go where you want and do whatever you want to do?

[channel-zParticipant 228]

I have, in most years, vacationed alone. A vacation should be relaxing. Bringing the “luggage” from home is not ideal.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Eyeswideopen-

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

As soon as I became MGTOW, my vacations improved exponentially. MGTOW definitely increases smv.
No more being manipulated or jumping through hoops. No more spending a fortune on drinks for the snowflakes.

Isn’t it great to have the freedom to go where you want and do whatever you want to do?

Absolutely.

As Stealthy would say, the key is “no f~~~s to give”. I could have gone home, bean unwaxed, and I would be writing a different post about all the cool stuff I did; which I will later. It would have changed nothing.

That said, 15 years junior did give me a little bit of a high. I am not going to lie; after the beating the little Private took I think I might have to give him a promotion to General. 😉

The ex-c~~~ is almost 40- I boned a chick almost half her age; and I was the one she left. Like Terrance Popp says, “play the long game”.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Like a boss. Awesome story. Doesn’t matter what degree or where they’re from, they’re all the same.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Nice one, women want it’s in their nature .tell them they can’t have they want more.

They want to be in control you spun the bitches head she was working in instinct you knowledge.

[AttonParticipant]

Your power in the force is most impressive.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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