What to do?

[simondonnellParticipant 2]

What to do, just got out of a lengthy relations~~~ that had my life static the whole time. You know the usual BS:

-loss of friends;
-loss of connections;
-loss of personal path, etc.

Im 24/25 years old and have no clue what to do. I was with this girl that had me throwing away everything i ever tried because i spent to much time doing it, all i wanted to do was make things work. I first started at uni as a programmer (passion for programming – dont ask me why i just do haha) but i through that away because i spent to much time doing that and it caused arguments etc (you know the spill). After dropping out of uni i started working away and earning an absolute fortune in the mines ($3000 – thats alot to someone in there 20’s), but there was no way i was staying there for the rest of my life….. I did it to finance a juice bar franchise (they are a big thing in Australia). she would get s~~~ty cause i wouldnt go on holidays, buy TV’s all the materialistic BS we really don’t need, *mind you holidays are nice, but my idea of a holiday is flying to the US and hiking Yellowstone*.
Long story short i grew some testicles after 6 years and said, “see ya latter chik”.
I guess my question is for the older men here, Do i go back to my passion of programming and continue Uni now that i have the time?, or go get a good paying job? From the life experience you guys have earned, what would you do?

Thanks

[IvanenParticipant 6]

My opinion (for what it’s worth), whenever you have a passion, something you really enjoy doing (as long as it is legal and you aren’t harming anyone), DO IT! MGTOW is about going your own way, doing what you want to do, and fulfilling YOUR desires, dreams, aspirations, etc.

Going to university to learn about what you love, especially if it is something that will pay the bills later, is certainly a worthwhile endeavor. Getting a good paying job is also an option, but very often that good paying job may turn out to be just as soul-sucking as the relationship you just escaped from. Perhaps doing a decent paying job while you go to  university may also be workable for you; I don’t know your situation. Often higher education comes with a hefty price tag, and you don’t want to be lugging that student loan ball and chain around for a big part of your life.

But whatever you decide to do, I hope that it does include you pursuing your passion. The best success stories out there are about people that followed their passion and did what they love to do. To me, following your passion seems the best course of action; it’s what a MGTOW would do.

Esse Quam Videri

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I suggest you finish going back to school. I have heard that 1/3 of the work force will be replaced by robots/computers.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[ChromestarParticipant 101]

Go back into University and finish it, Trust me.

Dont let anybody throw you own belongings and dreams away.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Im 24/25 years old and have no clue what to do.

“That’s OK, the most interesting 40 year olds I know STILL don’t.”
– Baz Luhrman

I guess my question is for the older men here, Do i go back to my passion of programming and continue Uni now that i have the time?, or go get a good paying job? From the life experience you guys have earned, what would you do?

I would disagree with Chromestar only in that I DIDN’T GO to university. I don’t believe in controlled education.

A working man – never unemployed – all my life since 17. 2 – 3 jobs and more than one iron in the fire at all times. Chicks would tell me “you work too hard” .. and “you need to get a life”. Now I am laughing at them, because they HAVE no life, and I have been around the world. Lived in 6 cities internationally and now relatively settled where it’s sunny and warm and still free to do (and go) wherever I want. My freedom was worth more to me than anything else.

Your choices are half chance. And so are everybody else’s. So be careful with “advice” because the best anyone can give you just comes from their own meandering experience.

The one bit of advice I will give you is to create as many opportunities as you can – regardless of specifics. You can’t go wrong with that. If UNI means more opportunities for you then DO it. If UNI means LIMITING your opportunities, don’t do it. If you can also making a living teaching a musical instrument on the side, do that too. If you also build websites, do that too. If you create iPad apps. Do that too. If you lift weights and can be an underwear model. Do that too. If you like investing or trading stocks. Do that too. Who f~~~ing cares what a chick has to say about it. Goddammit, women are the laziest creatures on Earth. Every single one of them recommended I did LESS. F~~~ them.

You know Dos Equis Beer? The most interesting man in the world said:
“Find out what it is you’re NOT good at. And then, don’t do that thing”.

(Personally, I am not a very good singer)

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A man is not “rich” when he has money.
A man is rich when he has CHOICES.
The poorest people are not the people with the least “money”.
The poorest people have the fewest CHOICES.

I know a guy who is a multi-millionaire 10X over at 32. He really wanted to live in California. He did some shady business practices and is now FORBIDDEN from running a business in California. He may have “money”, but he doesn’t have the choice to live where he wants. He had to sell $2Million home for a massive loss and now he lives where it’s cold and rainy. I know he HATES it there. So in a way, I’m richer than he is. Right?

Build a life for yourself that affords you as many choices as you can possibly generate.

I wish you every success.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Listen to you gut, man. College is a scam. University is OK if you are in a field where Uni is a must, But if you’re taking some s~~~ course just to get a piece of paper, rethink that s~~~!

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I am one of the older guys 52. The thing that makes me feel the most trapped is having my choices limited. I agree with KeyMaster.  If I tell you choose between black or white look over my shoulder for the rainbow, that I cant see myself. Free choice is a wonderful thing when its not limited and defined by someone else. keyMaster always seems to mirror how I feel and say it much better, but I can sing.

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Harpomason. I think you might be surprised to know that I can sing too.
In fact, I was castmember in a major musical for 2.5 years.

1000 performances. 8 shows a week. But don’t tell anyone.

Smiles.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

HI Simon,
48 years old here. ‘Will take a shot at answering the question about following your passion or a good paying job. In answering the question, I’ll just offer a couple of observations. First, you’re young and have already realized the error in trying to live your life serving someone who will never be satisfied, and likely never reciprocate fairly, no matter how much effort or sacrifice you make. Some don’t learn that until they’ve spent decades sacrificing everything they have, then realizing it was a waste.

On making money, any money you can make and invest now, will be worth way more than an equal amount of money invested later in life because it will have more time to gain value. And the impact of time on investments is enormously important. Google ‘compounding interest’ and read all you can until you really understand the arithmetic on it very well. As Warren Buffet said, “Getting rich slowly is not so difficult…”, but only if you have time. You’re young, and so you have time.

The other side of that is that no old man, facing death, ever looked back on his life and said, “I wish I’d spent more of my life dedicated to earning money…”. But a great many of them look back and regret the errors of omission. That is, they regret the things they didn’t do that they’d really wanted to do.

Since you’re young, you may have the option of striking a balance and getting a good measure of both? IMO, the most successfully that you can life your life is by finding something you really enjoy, and then figuring out a way to get paid to do that. I don’t know enough about computer programming to know if what you described is something you can make money to do, but if you can make enough to pay all your bills while doing something you really love, at the end of your life, you won’t regret not having done what you love.

When I was your age, I focused on money until I was in my early 40s. By that time, I was working like a maniac at a job that paid me about 10 times more than I needed to just pay my bills. I was lucky that I found a way to earn money doing something that I enjoyed, but it was not the ONLY thing I enjoyed. And working as hard as I was, I was missing out on all the other things I enjoyed. It sounds great to have job making 10 times more than I needed to pay bills, but I can promise you that making 10 times more money than you need to pay your bills… will not make you 10 times happier than you were when you were earning just enough to pay them.

I saved a lot of that money that I earned in excess of what I needed to pay my bills. I use that money now to allow myself to work less and spend more time doing the other things I really like. I don’t know exactly how long I’ll live, but in a perfect world, if I somehow plan it out exactly right… the last check that I ever write in my life will be for taxes to the IRS…and it will bounce when they try to cash it. 🙂

I hope that helps…

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