What shall we do when we grow older?

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

I am real close to my parents. Hell, I live with them. I go to the shooting range with Dad every week practically. They are my friends and the only 2 people in the world that would give a rat’s ass if I were to vanish off the face of the earth tomorrow. Really, no one else would even know or care if I were to vanish tomorrow. No one.

I am not lonely. I feel just fine. But the parents are not spring chickens anymore. Mom used to always say to me “You need to find a woman because one day me and Dad will not be around anymore and you will be all alone.” She don’t say that to me anymore because she has completely given up on the idea of me EVER being with a woman. I am just too sold on MGTOW to change my mind and seek out or need a woman in my life.

For me to want a woman in my life would be like me wanting a Lion in my life. As much as I think Lions are cool as hell, it would be insane for me to want to befriend one or live with one. The Lion will tear me apart first chance he gets.

So I have come to the conclusion that there is not going to be any family for me someday. Right now my family is me and my parents. But the day will come where that is going to end. The thought scares the pants off of me. Hopefully this will happen later rather than sooner.

I am not really a friendly person. I do not have any friends (except online friends). I am not a people person. I am pretty much a hermit. I do not make friends. So I am going to be alone one day.

Any of you ever think about this or maybe some of you older folks have actually experienced this? And you are doing just fine?

Remember……you don’t have to sell me on MGTOW. I have no desire for women in my life. I truly don’t. They mean NOTHING to me.

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

The same thing we are doing now, bro. Living free. I don’t need s~~~ but the 5 C’s: Cutting, Combustion, Cordage, Cover, and Container. The other option is to buy land and prep. Either option will work for me, but I do prefer my mobility.

[OldBillParticipant]

I’m 54. I live alone. I travel alone. I work as a consultant almost always alone. I’m not lonely, however.

You need to develop interests and hobbies away from your home. You need to volunteer for something. You need to get into the habit of doing things outside of your home.

There’s a small hipster bar near my home which has a jazz combo most Sundays. I make it a point to go there for a few drinks and the music every Sunday. I like to hike, so I belong to a few hiking groups. I don’t hike with those groups every weekend, but I show up often enough to be considered a regular. I’ve other interests, but I think you’ve got the point.

Find something you like to do and then start doing it. You won’t be lonely for long.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

You’ll be fine.
Start going to public places and talking to people. Before too long you’ll have a million friends. The key is to listen.
I’ve been alone for a long time, but I can go anywhere and meet all types of interesting people. You’ll meet a zillion ladies too. I tend to do specific things with different ladies. I have a few ladies I golf with. I have a few ladies I watch old movies with or dine with. And then there are the gym rats.
You’ll be fine. But conversation, like any skill, needs to be practiced. Get out there and listen. Good luck

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I am not really a friendly person. I do not have any friends (except online friends). I am not a people person. I am pretty much a hermit. I do not make friends. So I am going to be alone one day.

You dont have to relegate yourself to the conclusion in bold. Social skills and being outgoing arent ONLY found in people who naturally have that diaposition. Like anything else they can be created and cultivated with practice.

I was a naturally shy person growing up, but at ine point I just took steps to change it. You dont have to become the life of the party overnight, but if you want you can take steps.

Say hello to the old couple at the park. Chit chat with someone at a coffee shop. Live in the moment and build a bridge of commonalities or interests of people in the setting your in.

I go through “hermit” phases as well. Sometimes Ill go out every night of the week and be completely social. Othertimes I become a hermit for a few months and the social skills go dormant like anything else. They just need to be exercised.

FWIW both my parents passed away and the only real family I have left is a sibling. The thought of my sibling passing away does bother me, even though I do have friends. The thought of having no living blood relative is concerning.

Resident cynic.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

OldBill wrote:

I’m 54. I live alone. I travel alone. I work as a consultant almost always alone. I’m not lonely, however.

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Start going to public places and talking to people. Before too long you’ll have a million friends. The key is to listen.

Amen to both of these quotes.
There is a difference between alone and lonely.

You can be alone and very happy.
You cannot be lonely and happy.

I’ve forgotten why I started doing this, but in the 9th grade I just started smiling at everyone I met, remembering their names, and greeting them nicely and LISTENING and chatting with them.

It worked out well for me. I wasn’t the most popular guy in high school. But I had a core group of people who I could always hang out with when I wanted.

I also had the “hermit stages” Ancientwisdom described.

Just start smiling, say hi to people, learn their stories and share yours, and you’ll know plenty of people.

P.S.- you’re totally normal, I’ve worried about this before too. But I’m also close to one or two male cousins so I have that.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

The one question that I hate more than anything is the following:

“When are you going to give me some grand kids?”

[No CountryParticipant 759]

For me to want a woman in my life would be like me wanting a Lion in my life. As much as I think Lions are cool as hell, it would be insane for me to want to befriend one or live with one.

Thats a quote for the ages lmao. Im going quote you from now on. I can relate to the whole thing about parents telling you that you will be lonely. What are we going to do? Have a great time and will still have our sanity.

[Anonymous 29]

If you feel comfortable being alone, doing your own s~~~, then you are luckier than some.
I’ll take this a step further, . . . you can be in a room full of friends and still be alone.
It’s a matter of awareness, perception and how you live with it and frankly its no big deal.
Often I went into the wild to be alone and leave all clutter behind in order to have a clearer
perspective of s~~~ that I did and thought to keep a mental balance.

[RoyDalParticipant]

My dad has a built in knack for getting along with people. One of my cousins was what you might call abrasive, until he studied up on Dale Carnegie’s method as he has to deal with a broad range of people, some of whom are customers. Neither man is trying to acquire “new best friends” but they both go through life smoothly.

The take away is people skills can be learned and put to work for you. You don’t need to be a natural.

Hope this helps.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Well.losing a family.member always.is scary to everyone, in.my cases i dont need any friends im.not social.and.i do just fine im.like that.lonely Wolf but still happy i do.know.people but.you cant call friends to just anyone you will.only know who.is your real friends when trouble arrive

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

For me to want a woman in my life would be like me wanting a Lion in my life. As much as I think Lions are cool as hell, it would be insane for me to want to befriend one or live with one. The Lion will tear me apart first chance he gets.

I was thinking this exact same thought the other day.

We shouldn’t despise nature, but be aware of it and act accordingly.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[RennieParticipant]

DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:

So I have come to the conclusion that there is not going to be any family for me someday. Right now my family is me and my parents. But the day will come where that is going to end. The thought scares the pants off of me. Hopefully this will happen later rather than sooner.
I am not really a friendly person. I do not have any friends (except online friends). I am not a people person. I am pretty much a hermit. I do not make friends. So I am going to be alone one day.
Any of you ever think about this or maybe some of you older folks have actually experienced this? And you are doing just fine?
Remember……you don’t have to sell me on MGTOW. I have no desire for women in my life. I truly don’t. They mean NOTHING to me.

I know all about it. I’ve contemplated this scenario many, many, times. Sometimes I even have surreal dreams about it.

I predict as late as 2050 that there will be no one around for me anymore – assuming the world hasn’t totally gone to hell or ended by this point. . As much as I don’t like thinking about it, I know it will happen eventually and I have already begun conditioning myself to be ready for that future. I know I’ll be okay ultimately, since I can handle being by myself.

Also (when the time comes) I’ll be able to die with dignity and not have someone trying to put me in a nursing home.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I suppose you have the option of hiring a home health aide if you get injured or if you’re too old to take care of yourself. It’s a good idea to have a retirement fund for that (as well as having money for food, bills, and entertainment). Some of the activities I do alone are: going to movies, going hiking in the mountains, going to the beach to wade in the water. These are peaceful activities—moments when I can forget about my problems. Sometimes I go to the library and read books. Most of my friends are married, but I still talk to them once in a while. I have a friend that I visit now and then. I get along well with his wife and daughter. You have your internet, you have TV shows, you can rent movies, you can read books, and you can travel. If you’re in the mood one day, you can join a group of people to tour Europe or something like that. It’s nice to get out and have casual conversations with people once in a while. If you have some hobbies, you can meet people who have the same hobbies and meetup somewhere. The internet has meetup groups. I hope you can find something out there that makes you happy.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I used to joke about our generation of men becoming the “Golden Guys” generation. Like the tv show the Golden Girls, but basically full of guys that stayed and raised their kids, and once that was over, looked over at the wife and said no thanks. Here’s half the stuff, goodbye. Or guys that never married.

I’m starting to think that it may not be a joke. I’d rather have a couple of roommates near my age that have similar interests. Guys are typically pretty fun where there are no women in the mix. I can see a bunch of us going back to the way it was in college, or just out of college, except we all have more money and free time. Sounds pretty good to me.

Order the good wine

[OldBillParticipant]

RoyDal wrote:

That’s an excellent suggestion, RoyDal. I’m embarrassed that I forgot to mention Carnegie’s “How Win Friends And Influence People”. It’s most likely because I’ve owned a copy for decades and re-read it every year.

The book isn’t some rah-rah sales manual and most of the information it contains seems like common sense in retrospect. It’s an extremely helpful book, however, and I cannot recommend it more strongly.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 29]

OldBill wrote:

I’m embarrassed that I forgot to mention Carnegie’s “How Win Friends And Influence People”. It’s most likely because I’ve owned a copy for decades and re-read it every year.
The book isn’t some rah-rah sales manual and most of the information it contains seems like common sense in retrospect. It’s an extremely helpful book, however, and I cannot recommend it more strongly.

Lol, good one.
I remember feeling a bit sheepish when I bought mine ages ago.
But mostly it confirmed certain things I practiced.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

TaxGuy wrote:

…but basically full of guys that stayed and raised their kids, and once that was over, looked over at the wife and said no thanks. Here’s half the stuff, goodbye.

This is what will probably happen for me and I can see an increase of such cases.
But, back to the point, alone is only bad if you allow it to be. You need to be your own man and pursue your passions and you will never have time to feel alone. You only feel lonely when you have enough time to notice the lack of other humans around you. That only happens if you are bored.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[OgreParticipant 5863]

I’d suggest looking up the definitions of alone and lonely. After you do that and read through them with some contemplation, being alone may not be as bad as you think. It would be hard to be lonely with a proper and positive perspective on your choice to not have company. As a self professed hermit, like I plan to be within the next couple of years, other people’s problems and needs probably feel like too high of an investment. You can change yourself to meet your expectation of needing company, but it’s fairly likely that you will just slip into a new comfortable spot.
I’d wager that your negative feelings are actually coming from your expectation of losing your parents. Don’t let it ruin a second of your time that you still have with them.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

As long as my debts are settled and I have enough money to live out the rest of my life, I’ll be good to go.

If I have a woman in my life, great, if not, great.

My biggest issue with making new friends is that for the most part I can’t stand contemporary culture; so finding other people with interests that go further back in time can be difficult.

I had a good number of friends in high school but they all went their own way (but not in a MGTOW way). My best friend sort of just vanished after we’d kept in contact for awhile past college. Messaging on AIM for the longest time and then he never signed on again. No idea what his problem is but I really don’t give a f~~~ anymore.

Another close friend got married and has two kids. He’s blue pill to the core, so I hope his relationship works out for his sake.

Set out goals you want to accomplish, even if it’s just hobbies.

I’m working on my writing with the goal of getting published one day. Even if I croak in my mid 70’s, I’ve got another 40 years. That’s a lot of years to write. I’m also learning how to draw, so another pursuit that I have decades to work on. Find something you are passionate about and become a master at it.

You’ve got a lot of years ahead of you to enjoy yourself. Who knows, maybe you’ll cross paths with some fellow red pill people someday.

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