What keeps any movement from going mainstream?

[LucidLeoParticipant 65]

Infighting. Different factions within the movement spending so much of their energy fighting that they never can work together to form strong attacks against the supposed main enemy. I once considered myself an anarchist till I saw all the fighting different anarchists do, and it got old and I realized why Anarchists will never go mainstream and why no one takes them seriously. The government is not that worried about them.

In the same way, I have my doubts about MGTOW getting very far, There is not one MGTOW channel that has a 100,000 subscribers (unless you count Lui Marco’s bodybuilding channel), let alone a million but that doesnt stop the different small MGTOW channels from picking fights with each other and gaining a small number of subscribers. Just speaking into a mic and having a bunch of photo slides will not get millions of views. Sure it gets the word out and if you speak well you will gain a following, but the top channels spend a lot of time making their videos, but they are not about MGTOW.

I just do not want to see all the various types of MGTOW to get stuck fighting amongst themselves, hurting the movement at least online. I would be interested in many channels, but when I see them making videos attacking other MGTOW it is a turnoff and I avoid channels that do that trash.

[Anonymous 0]

this “we should all get along” stuff is bulls~~~, thats what women do

men get to the truth, even if it involves infighting- the most important part of mgtow is truth

 

[LucidLeoParticipant 65]

Anonymous wrote:

this “we should all get along” stuff is bulls~~~, thats what women do men get to the truth, even if it involves infighting- the most important part of mgtow is truth

eh? Of course truth is the most important thing is truth, but no one will agree and spending time attacking those within the movement is not doing anything to advance the movement. I am shocked some do not understand this. The Europeans used different Native tribes against each other so they would not unite against the Europeans. I think women use men the same way, they use men against each other, even infiltrating the movement and attacking from within. The FBI loves this method to destroy new movements

[sidecarParticipant 35859]

It’s been my observation that the common factor to all things that “go mainstream” is some corporation or political body finds a way to profit from it.  As there is no way for such to profit from MGTOW, pretty much by definition, I don’t see MGTOW “going mainstream” any time soon. Nor do I want to to, because “going mainstream” is pretty much synonymous with being co-opted for profit.

That being said, I full expect MGTOW to continue to explode under the radar, all the while leaving the above mentioned profiteers wringing their hands wondering what the f~~~ they are going to do about it.

LucidLeo wrote:

Different factions within the movement spending so much of their energy fighting that they never can work together to form strong attacks against the supposed main enemy.

MGTOW is not a movement.  MGTOW is not a cause.  It’s an effect.  And MGTOW doesn’t have any enemies, just parasites that MGTOW walk away from and let starve.

There is not one MGTOW channel that has a 100,000 subscribers

Which doesn’t really matter.  Making a youtube channel is all fine and good for those particular MGTOW, but doesn’t have much relevance to MGTOW itself.  You also need to consider the iceberg effect.  What you’re seeing is the tip of the iceberg.  In other words, the strength of MGTOW isn’t in the number of MGTOW channels, but in the flood of comments from men with the MGTOW mindset, whether they call themselves MGTOW or now, that inevitably call out and thrash any feminist bulls~~~ on youtube.

Just speaking into a mic and having a bunch of photo slides will not get millions of views.

But that’s not the point.  Viewcounts are not the end all and be all.  Just look at that stupid feminist “Dear Men” video.  It got an enormous number of views, but if the comments were anything to go by, they were all there to tell her she was full of s~~~.  And for all her view count, for all that she made it to youtube’s front page, where exactly is that stupid woman now?  E-begging for some kickstarter crap nobody is buying last I heard.

MGTOW is not about doing things.  MGTOW is defined by what it doesn’t do.  It doesn’t take s~~~ from anyone and it doesn’t give anyone free rides.  And it doesn’t need to dominate youtube or “go mainstream” or whatever to do that.  Hell, MGTOW don’t have to do a damn thing to see MGTOW expand.  Sitting back and letting feminists do their worst seems to be growing MGTOW more than anything else.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

LucidLeo wrote:

I just do not want to see all the various types of MGTOW to get stuck fighting amongst themselves, hurting the movement at least online. I would be interested in many channels, but when I see them making videos attacking other MGTOW it is a turnoff and I avoid channels that do that trash

MGTOW is not a movement. It’s a lifestyle.

I haven’t seen any infighting, at least not concerning the major obviously important guidelines for happier MGTOW lifestyle choices.

 

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

LucidLeo wrote:

eh? Of course truth is the most important thing is truth, but no one will agree and spending time attacking those within the movement is not doing anything to advance the movement. I am shocked some do not understand this. The Europeans used different Native tribes against each other so they would not unite against the Europeans. I think women use men the same way, they use men against each other, even infiltrating the movement and attacking from within. The FBI loves this method to destroy new movements

This .. would not do a damn thing. What? So instead of having a place for MGTOW to hang out … you just instead have a bunch of guys who won’t ever marry anyway?

Explain to me exactly how women infiltrating MGTOW and being randomly discovered trying to “dissolve” the lifestyle choice is going to do anything to the men who have already decided to avoid the family court circus?

It’s not.. if anything it’ll just strengthen their resolve.

[LucidLeoParticipant 65]

good points sidecar, I hope you are right. It may not be a movement, but it is a lot of men getting strength from each other and helping each other break free from women.

[sidecarParticipant 35859]

LucidLeo wrote:

good points sidecar, I hope you are right. It may not be a movement, but it is a lot of men getting strength from each other and helping each other break free from women.

I personally don’t see the youtube videos or even this website as MGTOW itself. I see them more as providing a service to MGTOW at large, letting every Man Going His Own Way know that he is making the right decision and he can ignore the shaming and other bulls~~~ being leveled at him to get him back into his yoke.

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

Anonymous wrote:

this “we should all get along” stuff is bulls~~~, thats what women do men get to the truth, even if it involves infighting- the most important part of mgtow is truth

Right! And at least men “get it all out”, while women smile to other women’s faces but behind your back call them horrible c~~~s.

 

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

As MGTOW’s, we are still the “odd men out” in society. There is no other way to put it. The thing is, who cares? Who cares what others think of us? I will bet that most of the people who tell us we suck in life are actually JEALOUS of us. That we didn’t make the same mistakes as they did or that we are no longer making the same mistakes that they did in life. We are free. That is the key we are free.

It is going to take a long time for society to be “unprogrammed”. For centuries it’s been engrained in the minds of children that they will grow up, fall in love, get married, reproduce, and have a nice 4 bedroom home in the suburbs with a Chevy Suburban for Mom and a BMW for Dad. It’s “The Dream.”

Children and young adults are just not experienced enough in life to know the reality of it all. The fact that there is no storybook romance, there is no such thing as “Live happily ever after.” They spend a large majority of their lives trying to find “The One”, when in fact there really is no such thing to begin with! It’s fairy tales that have been engrained in our brains from a very young age.

 

 

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[narwhalParticipant]

Feminists are trying to change the world.  They see behaviors they don’t like and want everyone else to change their behavior.  They need to be organized and financially supported to do that.  Conversely, MGTOW  sees behaviors they don’t like and changes their own behavior in response.  No organization or finances required.

That said, if men continue to stop financing the lives of women, the government will respond.  They won’t fix the problem and put things in the proper place, they’ll just increase taxes accordingly and forcing the transfer of cash.  They could do it directly by increasing child support.  They could do it through a school tax.  Soon, breakfast and lunch will be free at school, and there’ll be after school programs…since mom is theoretically at work.  They’ll enact some affirmative action equal pay act.  They could just increase the dollars to entitlement programs.

Any politician who tries to change no default divorce would get laughed out of office.  Any politician who suggests that men and women are not equal will practically be tried for treason.

With the breakdown of traditional marriage (due to divorce rate, drop in first time marriages, and same sex marriages), I’m hoping that we start seeing new types of contracts for marriage and child care.  Perhaps will see sort of lease agreements, where two people agree to share home and finances for a set period of time, say 5 years, with preset agreements on how assets will be split up after 5 years (and I don’t mean 50/50).   Maybe there will be a contract that agreed upon before consenting to have a child, making sure rights and responsibilities are understood.  Honestly, I think the few decades will be great for “family law”.

 

 

Ok. Then do it.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Turn MGTOW into a “movement” with leaders, rules, a membership application form, a hierarchy? Ain’t gonna happen.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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