What is the "manosphere" and of what value is it to MGTOW?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

This video I saw made me think about what the hey is the “manosphere” and why do I need it?

I see it as something that makes demands on individual men to comply with a certain undefined strategy to beat feminism, the seeking of allies, and really nothing about helping with individual success for a man.  Am I missing something here?

I don’t see this overall fitting with what MGTOW do.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

MGTOW is a phenomenon of individualism, not collectivism.

In collectives the individuals are weak, but the collective is strong (in theory anyways – the MRA movement is pretty damn weak even collectively).

In MGTOW the individuals are strong, and collectively they are gone. And that is their strength too. MGTOW is a phenomenon, not a movement.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Throwing rocks in dirt only makes you dirty. Nothing happens to the dirt, it still remains there.
Do you see hot women protesting out in the streets. NO. They can get plenty of attention from men anyway.
It’s only the fat and ugly piggies shouting out in the streets, it’s their way of getting attention from men. They want you to engage them, don’t give them the pleasure.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Richard, why are so obsessed with regularizing and defining mgtow? It’s fluid bro. Mgtows have been known to pull out a pua technique from time to time, or to maybe give a s~~~ about the legal status of men from time to time.

I have too much time on my hands, out of work, and doing YouTube videos and whatnot to keep my sanity and make sense of the world.  I am also fairly new to all this, so I am sorting things out in my mind.

This video I did here goes into the concerns about what you said.  I am trying to pick up the pieces and whatnot:

In short, I really don’t have much going on in my life, outside of being here and discussing that.  I am needing to operate without spending money also.  So, I think about MGTOW, see things and comment.  It really isn’t of much utility value actually.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RoyDalParticipant]

MGTOW can not be fought against, not any more than you can take a baseball bat and hit a fog bank. The manosphere can be shut down with the stroke of a pen, merely by denying its known users internet and phone access.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

LOl. Thanks for the complete honesty. That’s refreshing. yes, here I am too, with too much time, worrying over what some other dude thinks. Thanks for being here.

Well, with the excess amount of time on my hands, I end up thinking on things and my life, and I had been reflecting on a number of topics that popped up I don’t agree with, that have resulted in individuals dropping MGTOW from their label completely.  One individual I was reflecting on, who did a video on “women aren’t human”, ended up apparently having mental health issues, disconnected from there, and went off and started doing “women aren’t human” videos that got his old channel shut down.  TL;DR did a video on him, and the end result was that there was a big stink over TL;DR and how he was out to get MGTOW.  It was like a big tribal defense against him.  JohnTheOther does a video that appears to be NAWALTing, and you see it appear on here, and then he is called on it, and said he is “attacking MGTOW”.  I saw others fed up of this entire thing, like War Horse, and he drops out.

Blast it, I don’t even think of MGTOW as a tribe, but am left with thinking, “if people want to have MGTOW as a brotherhood then why do this?”  And then I do the schism video, which suggested maybe another way for MGTOW and then this video.

And all this is because I have too much time on my hands, and have to go monk route to become something, because I am lacking money to just engage in every petty impulse like I used to.  Actually, I see liberation in this, or better yet, finding who I am.  So, that is why you see what I am here.  I find getting subscribes and positive feedback on YouTube, and doing my own perspective does give some meaning to my life, so I do it, and post here.  And I may end up doing a podcast with someone in the Manosphere over this, so will see.  I am not seeking this as an outcome, but I won’t turn it down.

Thanks for the comment.

By the way, regarding the slow down, it is possible I am talking slower and quieter. I can see what is going on, or the laptop I am borrowing is acting up.  Doing videos later at night when I am tired can result in this.  I am not sure it is on YouTube’s end.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Survivor wrote:

LOl. Thanks for the complete honesty. That’s refreshing. yes, here I am too, with too much time, worrying over what some other dude thinks. Thanks for being here.

Well, with the excess amount of time on my hands, I end up thinking on things and my life, and I had been reflecting on a number of topics that popped up I don’t agree with, that have resulted in individuals dropping MGTOW from their label completely. One individual I was reflecting on, who did a video on “women aren’t human”, ended up apparently having mental health issues, disconnected from there, and went off and started doing “women aren’t human” videos that got his old channel shut down. TL;DR did a video on him, and the end result was that there was a big stink over TL;DR and how he was out to get MGTOW. It was like a big tribal defense against him. JohnTheOther does a video that appears to be NAWALTing, and you see it appear on here, and then he is called on it, and said he is “attacking MGTOW”. I saw others fed up of this entire thing, like War Horse, and he drops out. Blast it, I don’t even think of MGTOW as a tribe, but am left with thinking, “if people want to have MGTOW as a brotherhood then why do this?” And then I do the schism video, which suggested maybe another way for MGTOW and then this video. And all this is because I have too much time on my hands, and have to go monk route to become something, because I am lacking money to just engage in every petty impulse like I used to. Actually, I see liberation in this, or better yet, finding who I am. So, that is why you see what I am here. I find getting subscribes and positive feedback on YouTube, and doing my own perspective does give some meaning to my life, so I do it, and post here. And I may end up doing a podcast with someone in the Manosphere over this, so will see. I am not seeking this as an outcome, but I won’t turn it down. Thanks for the comment. By the way, regarding the slow down, it is possible I am talking slower and quieter. I can see what is going on, or the laptop I am borrowing is acting up. Doing videos later at night when I am tired can result in this. I am not sure it is on YouTube’s end.

Hi Richard,

I think you need to do some physical stuff to balance your deep thinking.

Just do something that gets your blood pumping and sweat running.

It won’t cost a penny. There are loads of exercises on the net. You can use chairs, broom handles etc.

You must balance yourself out with physical effort. You will feel clearer of minds as a bonus.

☺

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Hi Richard, I think you need to do some physical stuff to balance your deep thinking. Just do something that gets your blood pumping and sweat running. It won’t cost a penny. There are loads of exercises on the net. You can use chairs, broom handles etc. You must balance yourself out with physical effort. You will feel clearer of minds as a bonus.

I do have a gym membership ($10 a month).  I went last night to the gym and got cardio in.  I am not going in.

For myself, it is an identity issue I am working on, about securing a future for myself, that is in challenged, and still leaves myself with too much time.  It is a framework I need work on and getting a job and a career.  So, there is that challenge.

By the way, did the video break up audiowise for anyone else?  I listened to it before and it seemed fine, but then I just listened to it again (I mean mine) and it seemed to have some break up.  I am not sure what is going on.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

In fact, too much self improvement and you almost can’t avoid sucking some predatorgina into your environes.

Which is when you need MGTOW the most.

“Loser” men need MGTOW to help them abandon irrelevancies like women and improve themselves.
“Winner” men need MGTOW to help them avoid losing their hard earned winnings to women.

All men need MGTOW.

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