What if women paid?

[FrederickTheGreatParticipant 235]

I sometimes wonder how the dating scene would be different if women had to pay for their own way on dates (not to mention if they had to pay for the men). I’m not sure why it shouldn’t be that way. Women are very capable in the workforce and can earn their own living. I wonder if women paid for dates if they would take things more seriously because they would be personally invested. I suspect women would be less inclined to waste men’s time if they weren’t getting a free dinner as an incentive to do so. I would feel a lot more confident that a woman actually valued me as a person if they were to pay their own way. Isn’t my companionship worth as much as (if not a whole lot more than) hers? I don’t like the message I’m sending when I pay for dates. It is like saying, “I realize I’m not worth as much as you.” Women like a confident guy, right? So how is debasing myself by paying for companionship coming across as confident?

BTW, the fact that this will never happen is all the more reason why I’m choosing MGTOW.

[experiencedParticipant]

It’s because there are suckers who’d pay, lined up around the block.
Like the neighborhood dog that’d do anything for a lick.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[GrumpyParticipant]

experienced wrote:

It’s because there are suckers who’d pay, lined up around the block.
Like the neighborhood dog that’d do anything for a lick.

This

When a man realizes who the one sniffing around, looking for a meal ticket is. The rules change

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Women are told they DESERVE it, even though they want to get rid of everything traditional, old school, patriarchy, whatever they want to call it, they like to keep the stuff that benefits them. In truth, it has nothing to do with oppression or patriarchy bulls~~~. It’s all about her, and her and her. THat’s all it is.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

I am 28 and I find that women in their 30s always pay their part on dates, or at least offer. I have actually never paid for a woman in her 30s on the first few dates. I have even had some that have been generous and paid for me. A few years ago one girl who was 30 paid and took me to the movies on our second date and then an Angels baseball game the next day after she stayed the night.

Bitches in their 20s think they are owed something. I remember one time I went for coffee with a 21 year old I met online and I told her to order when she was ready and I stood where I was, non-verbally telling her she was going to buy he own drink. Then she made it awkward and stood there looking at me expecting me to pay.

The last girl I dated who was 21 was a total bitch. She led me on for a few months and numbers of dates, and I started to get a little loose on the wallet and dropped $30 for a pair of Ducks tickets. That was our last date. She then cancelled on our next planned date and then called me, talked to me for 45 minutes as if nothing was wrong and then awkwardly paused, said we needed to talk about something, then sat there as if I was supposed to have read her mind. I asked her when she knew she didn’t like me anymore and she said on the third date, which was 9 days after I met her. So she led me on for a month and a half, letting me pay for (cheap) dinners, take her hiking in to the Hollywood sign in LA, to the beach, to hockey games and NEVER even offered to pay her portion. If she knew she didn’t like me, that is the least she could have done to be a decent human being. But she wasn’t.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

experienced wrote:

It’s because there are suckers who’d pay, lined up around the block.
Like the neighborhood dog that’d do anything for a lick.

Not for long once the economy goes down hill it’s everyone surviving. There won’t men paying for dates unless he’s a millionaire.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

If women had to pay to go on dates, they just wouldn’t go. Most women don’t date because they are interested in the man, they’re just in it for the free s~~~.

If we could change one thing that would make a real difference, it would be to stop men from paying for dates. Hey, if you want to pay for a woman to live that’s on you… but paying for their time and attention up front just perverts the entire process.

I’m not looking to change the world, honestly. Let men fight each other to buy s~~~ for women. It’s nothing off my ass. But if anyone were to ask me how to regain their independence and manhood, that would be my advice to them.

Spend your money on yourself.

[KeithParticipant 482]

FrederickTheGreat wrote:

I sometimes wonder how the dating scene would be different if women had to pay for their own way on dates (not to mention if they had to pay for the men).

I get that bit of business out of the way up front. If she asks me out, I expect her to pay and I say so. Saves time.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

That would certainly in practice be a revolutionary concept.

And yes, actually why the f~~~ (pun intended) shouldn’t women
indeed pay for our undivided attention equivalent to how high
they naturally rate it..?

Wouldn’t that be another step towards real equality between
the sexes (since we were expected to pay for sex for eons within
some of the the so called “oldest professions” in the world) …?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeithParticipant 482]

Ned Trent wrote:

That would certainly in practice be a revolutionary concept.

It’s not revolutionary, it’s blunt, honest and upfront. I embrace the idea of equality and expect the benefits that flow from it.

P.S. And I don’t eat from a drive-thru or take-away on a first date, I expect somewhere with a tablecloth.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

@ Keith: Naturally, sir.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[boisdevieParticipant 257]

I’m a 52 year old guy. I’ve dated in the UK and in France and found that the women I’ve met pay their half. The only exception was a woman back in 2010 – a special snowflake. She was good in bed but a pain to be with. She got dumped.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

That’s only one solution of many problems we have with them.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Anonymous 12]

Women won’t even pay to use dating sites, when I was on the Sugar Daddy site I often felt the women should pay to join especially as they were expecting to make money from it and even then many said if they had to pay they would never join.

I do believe though if women had to pay they would be more invested but that said look at the women who do pay loser type men in one way or another and put up with all sorts of s~~~.

Again, no logic, they will pay for that and make the nice guys suffer.

[narwhalParticipant]

In my experience the past few years, the women do pay their share or at least offer. What usually happens is I’ll pay for dinner and then they pay for drinks. I don’t recall any woman blatantly expecting me to pay.

I think that has a lot to do with dating women around my age (early 40s) and possibly my casual approach. I tend to approach with a level of indifference, I certainly don’t treat her like a princess. It could also be because it’s not hard to spot the entitled ones.

Aside: This is part of the reason why I still enjoy dating. It really doesn’t cost me much in the early stages. It probably gets more expensive with time, but I haven’t really hung around long enough to find out.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 12]

Indifference is key here, when a man starts showing too much interest especially in terms of trying to get her into bed the women tends to start feeling empowered and figures she may as well suck as much money or goods out of the guy as possible.

When you play it cool it changes the whole tone and if you do it really well, you can even get the woman trying to impress you.

[Mister Man SmithParticipant 285]

General rule, below 30 they don’t wanna pay because they always have five guys lined up.
When they go over 30 it’s harder for them to get dates, lets face it, if a guy is gonna shell out good money on a date for a shag, he’s gonna do it with a 20 year old. Because in their 30’s and especially in their 40’s women get a lot less attention, they have to start making a man’s time worth his while.

I’ve talked to women (in their 20’s) that bluntly said, either they wouldn’t pay if the guy they were out with asked them to, or, they’d pay their share but that would be the last date they’d ever had. Shows you what they’re there for.

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