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Anonymous42http://www.womengoingtheirownway.com Look out Mr. Ed, WGTOW wants you!
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Anonymous42
Silvernail,
I’m not going to post an answer to your question, or the reasons for my answer. That’s been well done above already, and I’ve already done it in another thread the last time this question came up a few months ago. What I want to do is address the reasons why you posted the question in the first place.When any person comes to this site for the first time, they will see it very clearly marked as a male-only space on the opening page. On seeing that clearly marked opening page, a person who is not a man has two choices. The first option is to respect that space and go quietly to any place else in the world… all of which is wide open to that person. For those people who are not men, the rest of the world is not only open to them, but actively inviting them and where necessary, being altered in order to be certain to be comfortable for them. The only other spaces in the world that are male-only spaces are those where men go to take a dump. And that space is only allowed to be male-only because women demand a female-only space for themselves for that same purpose.
So, seeing that clearly marked sign on the opening page, and knowing very well exactly what it means, and having the entire remainder of the planet available to them, the person who is not a man has the option to respect it and move on to any other place in the world. I suppose there are some persons who are not men who do exactly that simple, respectful thing. I cannot know if or how many because respect for that sign would mean they do it quietly and without announcing themselves.
But, then there is the other option. Option 2 is to ignore, or otherwise refuse to respect that simple sign. There are many ways for those persons who are not men to do that. They can pretend to men and misrepresent themselves. They can openly announce that they are women and be shaming, dismissive, challenging or otherwise confrontational… all of which we have seen here recently. They can even be open and honest that they are women and ask politely to be allowed to stay, which we’ve also seen.
But that approach, however polite, is still a failure to respect that sign. The approach in this thread, which is to find a man so overdosed on the blue pill that he can be manipulated into, or will voluntarily on his own, come here and politely make that request for her… is still the same failure to respect that simple sign.
The decision to make the site men-only and mark it accordingly was made by a man. And so failure to respect it is also a failure to respect that man, and every man here who has since agreed with it. While some would disrespect us by openly challenging that decision in a confrontational way, your OP questioning wether that decision will collapse if politely requested… is no less a failure to respect it, the man who originally made it, and all the men here who have agreed with it prior to your arrival.
Ironically enough, that decision to make this a male-only space was inspired by some enormously disrespectful behavior on the part of women toward men. And yet, here you are, voluntarily delivering to us another dose of that same disrespect.
I will agree with the above observation that you are either (another) female posing as a man, (this time on behalf of a female who really is female) or a man enormously overdosed on the blue pill. But given your failure to respect the men who made that decision, and all the other men who have since agreed with it, I’m not sure it even matters which one of these you are. Your contribution of disrespect is exactly the same.
However, on the premise that you may in fact be just a pathetically blue pill overdosed man, and as a chance to redeem yourself for what you’ve done here, I will address you as a man and ask you to do something for me. It’s a little experiment I would like you to conduct for us, and for you:
Go and tell your friend who is not a man, that she cannot be included in this site, but do not offer her or volunteer to her any reason whatsoever for that decision when you tell her. Just tell her the answer is “no”, and then report back here what her response was.
If she respects that decision, and accepts what it means, she will go quietly to some other place and I will not expect to see her posting here in the future. If she does not respect that decision… if she argues, demands a reason, or otherwise challenges you to defend or explain that decision, then she will have conveyed more of that same disrespect that inspired the sign in the first place, demonstrated my point more clearly to you than I have already made it… and I will not expect to see you ever posting anymore blue pill threads like this again.
In either case, you and I will have ended the giant distraction you just created above by posting that here.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
No thanks.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
I did tell her no and her response was “Im going to get a f~~~ing MGTOW account anyway”. So just an advanced warning she might actually sign up . Im a man by the way ,the J in J.D Silvernail stands for John so you can look me up later Brain Pilot. The D stands for David. I live in North Alabama and I used to go to sparkman middle school and man it was a hell hole. I wont tell you what school i am curently in for privacy reasons. Ive been on the local news a couple of times for my Eagle Scout Project(i think that it was WAFF48 news).Other than where i currently go to school i have nothing to hide. I am also well known in my community for shooting a ten point buck(my first deer) on Redstone Arsonal when i was in 9th grade. I am thinking of making the picture of me with the Remington 870 20guage and the dead deer as my profile picture. Would that be proof enough that i am a man? By the way that picture looks really cool and it is hanging in the wall of my room. Also to the other issue i never meant any disrespect to My fellow MGTOWs or to Keymaster, i just thought that because there are male feminists that it could be possible to have female MGTOWs(women who believe that men should have rights). This is after all a male version of the feminist movement(correct me if im wrong). I just asked a simple question. Why do i get the accusation of being a woman from you Brain Pilot? Which by the way im insulted by that. What is your major malfunction? Why are you so paranoid? Have you ever looked at any of my other f~~~ing blogs? Its kind of obvious that im a man just by scanning my blog about getting in shape to become a Navy Seal or Delta Force operative. I want to join the military and be in one of those two units as a Sniper and i can do it . Those wouldnt be my ambitions if i was a woman because they dont let women in those Special Ops groups. Brain Pilot If you really were a dumb enough little s~~~ to believe that im a woman you better take an IQ test and get a psycological evaluation. If you score below average on the IQ test then get the f~~~ off of this site because it is only for smart men like Keymaster,John Doe,and myself. If i had scored just one point higher on the IQ test i would have been labeled gifted so f~~~ you Brain Pilot if you even begin to say that im a dumb ass after this post because you’re the f~~~ing dumb ass. By the way thank you for stating your opinion. Try to be more respectful and less paranoid when replying to your fellow MGTOWs. I’ve redeemed myself Brain Pilot and probably given you too much information about myself. Now its time for you to redeem yourself by apologizing to me and any other MGTOWs you might have slandered.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
@j.D. while you’ve still got the minutes, you might want to “tone down” your reply. Otherwise, as you learn more about all of this it will be cause for regret. I’ve done it myself and regretted it.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Anonymous27Trust me brainpilot does not need an IQ test. And he said he agreed with other posts, that it is POSSIBLE that you are a woman, or a man that is a mangina..they are close enough that it doesn’t matter which you are. The reason for this, is that many woman are quite manipulative as many of us have seen here before, and your OP signifies that you are indeed one of these two..it is typical that your female friend would try to make an account here anyways, as she is an entitled bitch, posing as hating woman, but acting so typically like one, she may as well be a carbon copy of her own hate.
MGTOW does not need, nor want, any female members of any kind, at any time, unless of course their membership consists of free lap dances and serving body shots to all the boys. Yes there are feminist men, we call them failed attempts at manhood, manginas, blue pillers, slaves or the like. But we do not want any male rights woman activists… There is a movement for that, MRAs, we are not it..MGTOW is by men, for men, it always has been, it always will be.
This is after all a male version of the feminist movement(correct me if im wrong)
It’s nothing like that, and we will correct you in a minute.
just thought that because there are male feminists that it could be possible to have female MGTOWs(women who believe that men should have rights).
Ok lets look at that.
All drama aside. I insist. Because this s~~~ isn’t personal. It’s not about you, JD. And it’s not about some petulant c~~~ who says she’s going to get a MGTOW account anyway. Lets look at this s~~~:
“Women. Who. Believe. Men. Should. Have. Rights.”
Do you see what kind of s~~~ that is?
“Believing men should have rights” is not a noble or admirable thing worthy of special recognition. That would be like me expecting to be saluted or admired for never having ever gone to prison. You’re not supposed to go to f~~~ing prison. As a man, we don’t expect to be applauded for not going to jail.
“Women Who Believe Men Should Have Rights” are bats~~~ f~~~ing insane, and wouldn’t even have the right to roam free if countless men didn’t pay for her freedom and liberties she takes for granted every c~~~ing day of her existence. Without thousands of dead men, SHE – one western female – wouldn’t have any “rights” at all.
Freedom is not free. That’s what your modern c~~~ just doesn’t understand.
She can’t just go and do whatever the f~~~ she wants in life. She thinks she can, but she can NOT. You already know you can’t… so why doesn’t she? Because she is an off-the chart arrogant modern t~~~. She simply does not have the “right” to be here. There are limits in life. She can’t just “be a MGTOW”. Its as f~~~ed and stupid as cat wanting to be a dog.
If she truly believed men should have rights, then she will respect a man’s right to kick her out and tell her NO.
Do you understand that?
If she truly believed men should have rights then she will respect a man’s right to kick her out and tell her NO.
She doesn’t give a s~~~ about “men’s rights” and her insistence proves it. How can you be so blind to this? Her insistence of going and doing whatever she wants – with no respect for any boundaries maintained by others – is PROOF she doesn’t give a s~~~.
MGTOW are the men who have had enoygh of this s~~~, JD.
You should know this by now.Thinking any other way is gynocentric to its core. This is why you should not be surprised to be questioned by others on what the actual f~~~ you are doing here – or if you’re a man or MGTOW at all. MGTOW don’t need this s~~~ spelled out for them. Only WOMEN do. You should have already known the answer to your question. And we helped you out, by keeping you out of it (personally). You asked a a question and you got an answer. I was clear in my response above. The response is to her f~~~ed up mentality and idea that some uncaring belligerent bitch can sign up here and be a “man going his own way”.
No. Like I said. Its not even a question. It will NEVER happen that she is permitted here. Accept it. She will be booted out on her ass with no apology or explanation. And we will not give a f~~~ in the same way that SHE doesn’t give a f~~~. She deserves to be treated that way. Make no mistake about it.
Now you go and make it personal. It never was about YOU. I was very clear that I was responding to HER QUESTION. Not yours. And it’s not about Brain Pilot either. So keep him out of it. Don’t make it personal. It’s about HER and how she wants to be a MGTOW. You must be f~~~ing kidding me.
“Women who believe men should have rights”???
WHO EVER SAID MEN DON’T HAVE RIGHTS??? COUNTLESS DEAD MEN GAVE THESE IDIOTS THEIR RIGHTS!!!!Show me that we DON’T have the right to kick her out on her ass? Don’t worry sweethearts. We have rights and we will use them. Who ever told these stupid s~~~-for-brains men don’t have rights need their heads examined. But then saying “I believe men should have rights!” is supposed to be some noble gesture? F~~~ off with that s~~~.
That statement reminds me of a recent recollection when I saw a #womenagainstfeminism tweet “because men are people too”. Let me repeat that: “Because men are people too”. She thinks by saying something that stupid, that she’s doing men a FAVOR. She actually thought she should be applauded and recognized for acknowledging “men are people too”. That’s like saying water is wet! Or I breathe air. Tat same unthinking fraud can’t even take a dignified s~~~ in this world unless MEN built every toilet she s~~~s in , and pumped water and electricity into her home, and stocked her shelves with toilet paper and tampons. Without men she can’t even go online – or wipe her own ass – in this world.
It so goddam embarrassing.
More to the point, simply being “male” doesn’t even give you the right to be here. Have you even thought about that? Here you are bashing your head against the glass trying to prove you’re a man, which is wasted effort. Plenty of men are not welcome here either. And yet you take INSULT to be questioned if you’re a woman. If you’re INSULTED by being asked the question, then you don’t think very highly of having women here either.
Demanding an apology from Brain Pilot is laughable. I would expect that from a woman. Stop working your ass off to prove to others that you have a dick. Shooting a deer doesn’t “prove you’re a man” either.
You will not sucker anyone else here into a debate about whether or not women are permitted here.
The answer is NO. And if you believe “men should have rights”, then this conversation ends now.Women are not – and never will be – men. It’s not even a f~~~ing discussion.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.This is after all a male version of the feminist movement(correct me if im wrong)
It’s not a “movement”. Feminism is a “movement”. A great big stinking failure bowel movement. The biggest cultural failure of the last century – one could easily add.
A “movement” is when you and I and @brainpilot and @experienced and @Dolla and all the others get together and charge into battle for a common goal (and end game) that we would all agree to. But Dolla and I have different life goals. Experienced and I have difference experiences. It’s anything but a “movement”. Its an individual lifestyle choice which depends on no group meetings, conferences, organized state funding. All “movements” need that s~~~ to survive and be effective.
MGTOW do not.
MGTOW is the photo-negative of a movement. Where inaction is the action.
We win by doing nothing. There is a big difference between actively going against something and simply not embracing (or subscribing) to it. MRAs are a “movement”. Gay marriage is a “movement”. Feminism is a movement, and fails the moment you simply refuse to subscribe to it.
Hope that’s clear.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I smell LADYEEZzzzzzsssss
@keymaster: IMO the first of your last couple of posts is the best post I’ve read on this web site to date. I salute you.
Nice catch on
“This is after all a male version of the feminist movement(correct me if im wrong”)
We cannot let these harmful misconceptions slip through even if sandwiched between seemingly innocuous and naive statements.
This kid has been here on the site long enough to make a total of 164 posts but still doesn’t get the rules of this site or what MGTOW is all about.
That he decided to conduct a poll whether or not a woman should be allowed on the site rather than make a warning post about a possible infiltration is a sneaky bitch move. Also, the appeal to authority and attempt to cause rift with the below statement is laughable and juvenile if not woman-like.
“get the f~~~ off of this site because it is only for smart men like Keymaster,John Doe,and myself”
For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.
I smell LADYEEZzzzzzsssss
I have detected smellier cooch on a male MRA across the internet.
This topic shouldn’t even exist. It’s just not open for discussion.Perhaps we should begin making the question itself never permitted again. This would save everyone a whack of invested effort and time to have to explain it. I feel PERSONALLY bad for the members who took time of their lives to respond to it.
It’s like asking “what if water were not wet?”.
We’re trying to refrain from making “policy” here, but like what the f~~~ are you gonna do with that.
Water is wet. Cat’s are not dogs. Women are not men. Punto Finito.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Damn, KeyMaster. Were you, by chance, a hardcore free-style rapper in a past life?
Damn, KeyMaster. Were you, by chance, a hardcore free-style rapper in a past life?
If I could make it rhyme.. I would be f~~~ing Beyoncé and richer than Jay Z.
But first things first.
Tip my hat and extend gratitude to every last mother-f~~~ing one of you.
I’m p~~~ed off that millions of men died so that the disrespectful modern t~~~ can waste her goddam worthless afternoon at Starbucks.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Perhaps we should begin making the question itself never permitted again. This would save everyone a whack of invested effort and time to have to explain it.Do it and be done with it …… and themI Apologize for making this topic and I was unaware that asking this question was prohibited. It won’t happen again. I also apologize for being so harsh towards Brain Pilot.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
Keymaster I respect you and the entire reason I joined MGTOW is because I was tired of taking s~~~ from women. Specifacly I was accused of stalking for no reason and they had no proof, but I was still treated like a stalker in Sparkman Middle School. My parents were too gullible to investigate why I was being called a stalker, and they still treat me like a freak. So believe me when I say that I am one of those men who isn’t going to take any s~~~ from women anymore. I am a true MGTOW believe it or not. I will post my introduction when I am emotionally ready because I have taken too much abuse from women and gay guys over the years. I didn’t want to post it before because I wanted all those horrible experiences off my mind.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
Keymaster I respect you and the entire reason I joined MGTOW is because I was tired of taking s~~~ from women. Specifacly I was accused of stalking for no reason and they had no proof,
I know. I read your stuff. I don’t always reply but I have a good idea and you’ve said that before.
I Apologize for making this topic and I was unaware that asking this question was prohibited.
No need to apologize for asking a question. Questions are not prohibited. (yet!)
Women – and the gynocentric point of view – are what is prohibited.I also apologize for being so harsh towards Brain Pilot.
He (and we) will certainly appreciate that. Brain Pilot is an unbelievable wealth of manbrain here. AND he’s very well-intentioned.
Have an excellent weekend.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42Hey JD, relax man, remember it’s like fight club, we’re brutalizing each other with the truth. Nobody rejects you, you just got hit with the tether ball, it’s nothing personal, nobody’s questioning your manliness, if fact they’re just strengthening you, giving you endurance, so they can hit you again, and again, and purify your manly instincts. We’re all on the same side, s~~~, I got a black eye for inappropriate material a while ago. I just kept on going, I always do. Remember Fight Club when you feel like you’re being attacked.
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Live Free…I really like your signature :
For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.
Gold…pure gold. I salute you.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
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