What do you do?

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

What do you do when you have no more f~~~s to give? As I continue on my path, I’ve found that there are really very few things I give a f~~~ about. I always figured that the f~~~s I give were somehow a renewable source, but lately I’ve come to notice that regardless of what happens there is no more outrage or sympathy, for anyone or anything. I realize this is probably not good for me, but what can I say…. I’m cynical and jaded to no end. I don’t feel bad about not giving a f~~~, but I am concerned it could be a problem down the road. My “Red Pill rage” subsided a while back, and then I wanted to help other men. Now, I don’t even feel like doing that, what’s wrong with me?

I know that there are 2 things required for a man to love, the ability to trust, and innocence in his heart. While I do still retain a minor ability to trust I must concede there is no innocence left in my heart… it is soured. I’m not a man interested in changing the world, only myself. How do I turn the pickle that is my heart back into a cucumber? I don’t like not caring as much as I thought I would, before it happened I imagined it would be great, that there would be no more pain, but I feel diminished somehow. I’m not an emotional person to begin with, but now I am a little freaked out about a complete absence of care. I finally got where I thought I wanted to be and it is NOT what I expected, what now?

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[CaliParticipant 753]

My personal recommendation would be to become a Christian (of course, I am rather biased, haha). Try not caring about anything when, according to your belief system, every single person is infinitely valuable and you, God died so that you could live and be free from every evil desire and unwholesome impulse one day, and your purpose on earth is to tell you those things. Just don’t become one of those super hateful Christians.

Feel free to not follow my advice or not. I’m simply speaking from experience here. Seriously, though: not caring about anything IS a bad sign, and it’s liable to lead to some problems. There will always be pain when you care. The question is whether or not you did right in caring. If you care about doing right, then at the very least, you have that…

Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...

[HitmanParticipant]

brother-man …i just take things day by day
how does an elephant eat so much ? .. one bite at a time .
you know s~~~ changes all the time ..this too shall pass
remember ! i’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy !
wake up tomorrow and see what happens !

[BudtaoParticipant 293]

Smitty, reading your predicament it seems to me that you might be searching for meaning in your life outside of yourself. This can a problem because the only place that you can find meaning in your life is within yourself. I went on a walkabout when I had this problem. Sometimes steping outside your life and focusing exclusively internally can bring truths about your life and what you would like out of it that you never knew.

For me, having done a walkabout, I found that the only meaning or purpose that I could find in life was Mastery of Self(capitals for dramatic effect). To fully master one’s self is the only meaning I could find in life. By this I mean the physical self, the mental self, and the emotional self.

As to the F~~~s-to-Give problem this is usually one of

Smitty the Great One wrote:

I know that there are 2 things required for a man to love, the ability to trust, and innocence in his heart.

This is actually the first I have heard of this idea. While interesting, I still find myself questioning the definition of the word love. And since I question the word love, I have to try to view the other qualities that make up your capacity to love in a different way. While I agree that Trust is the currency of any relationship(friendship, romantic, etc.) I can’t help but feel like “innocence of the heart” is just another way of saying naive. And therefore manipulatable.
TL;DR these are the qualities of love, because they are the qualities you need to be manipulatable by women.

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I don’t give a f~~~ about society in general anymore, its too f~~~ed up and continues to head in the wrong direction. I don’t care if our s~~~ty system collapses…in fact in a lot of ways I hope it does.

However, I’ve also learned that doesn’t mean I don’t give f~~~ about anything. Just look at the small things in your life…your family, your friends, your dog, your hobbies…nothing is stopping you from enjoying those things.

Ultimately I’m p~~~ed at society…I’m tired of the femic~~~s, the race baiters, how abused our welfare system is, a government that just allows an invasion of illegals to drive down wages, take our jobs, and leech our social services, etc. I’ve learned to just use this as motivation. If I continue to live a minimalist life style, I will buy less stuff and own less things, so it means I will pay less in sales and property taxes. Also, the sooner I can acquire a nest egg large enough to live out my days comfortably without drawing the principal down, the less I will actually have to work and contribute to this f~~~ed up society over the course of my life time. Maybe I’m just a spiteful bastard but it makes me feel a little better about the whole system knowing I’m going to willfully contribute far below my capabilities by choice. I’ll gladly do without a nice sports car and nice house if it means I’m going to pay hundreds of thousands less in taxes over the course of my lifetime and I get to retire a decade earlier.

If I gave a f~~~ I’d still want to try to change the system, or participate in the system and just work extra hard to try to be the exception to the norm…but I don’t give a f~~~. I simply want to participate in society as little as I need to in order to live my life, but at the same time I still have plenty of things in my life I do give a f~~~ about…its those things that will allow you to keep your sanity.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

What do you do when you have no more f~~~s to give?

Smitty the Great One wrote:

I know that there are 2 things required for a man to love,

What/who exactly are you looking to love,? Firstly, you must give a f~~~ about the person who loves you the most, yourself. Love and trust yourself, make a plan and build yourself into the person that you want to be. Challenge yourself, get out of your comfort zone and celebrate your achievements. Your fears/limitations are created in your mind, destroy them and do what you always wanted to do.

Smitty the Great One wrote:

I’m cynical and jaded to no end.

This is a perspective, I would say that if you have studied the material on here that you would be considered informed. Mangina’s might consider you jaded, or maybe you still have some red pill rage, it does pass in time and inner peace is the reward. Don’t let being informed get you down, at least you can’t, or shouldn’t get f~~~ed over any more.

In life we have an ongoing battle to some extent with the world, the environment, the economy, and society. The Art of War has great wisdom in regards to this battle. Best of luck.
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/design-and-art-of-war/

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I can be jaded as f~~~ to. I focus on creating fiction and giving meaning and purpose to otherwise blank pages. I also make music, and listening to music always helps me recharge. It’s really easy to not give a f~~~ and fall into the nihilistic trap, as I did and still do at times, but it’s up to you to give life a meaning, by doing things worth doing to you.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

I know that there are 2 things required for a man to love, the ability to trust, and innocence in his heart.

I can trust. I trust a thief to steal from me. I trust a woman to act according to her nature too. Trust is a good thing when done with eyes open.

Budtao wrote:

Smitty, reading your predicament it seems to me that you might be searching for meaning in your life outside of yourself.

Good advice. Heed him.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BigDParticipant 3024]

The philosophy I have taken since I was of age to work legally and pay taxes (14) is no one gives a f~~~ about my well being and my finances but me. It seems you are focusing on “society” and other people. Not giving a f~~~ about them is a good thing. You can’t control others. The only person you can control is yourself. Find your path. Find your niche. Stop worrying about what others think, feel, or do.

What do you enjoy doing? What makes you happy to be up in the morning? You are depressed, but it doesn’t mean you have to continue to drag yourself down.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

RoyDal wrote:

I can trust. I trust a thief to steal from me. I trust a woman to act according to her nature too. Trust is a good thing when done with eyes open.

I agree totally, @roydal.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[MalfunctionNeedInputParticipant 257]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

What do you do when you have no more f~~~s to give? As I continue on my path, I’ve found that there are really very few things I give a f~~~ about. I always figured that the f~~~s I give were somehow a renewable source, but lately I’ve come to notice that regardless of what happens there is no more outrage or sympathy, for anyone or anything. I realize this is probably not good for me, but what can I say…. I’m cynical and jaded to no end. I don’t feel bad about not giving a f~~~, but I am concerned it could be a problem down the road. My “Red Pill rage” subsided a while back, and then I wanted to help other men. Now, I don’t even feel like doing that, what’s wrong with me?

I think I understand. I do things to keep going, pressing forward, but later end up asking, what’s the point, is there really a point to doing this? Does it really matter if I don’t, should I stop? For instance, going to the gym and lifting weights…I sometimes ask myself is there really a point as I can live a healthy life just by eating better and going for bike rides or walking so what’s the point of weights? But after leaving the gym I remember how good I feel. It’s like a therapy session. I feel invigorated and I feel like I can think clearly. I’m calm, I’m not anxious.

Perhaps finding some sort of activity would benefit you as well or caring for someone else or a pet if you don’t have one. I’m wondering if I should get a dog myself…Man’s best friend so they say. You just need to find something you care about.

The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. --Einstein

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

I’m a materialist; I love and care about things (in addition to a few friends). I gather things that I feel improve my life, not for status or social recognition but practical things I can enjoy activities through or that make my life easier and/or cheaper.

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Smitty, you’re not alone, the slam hammer of past experience drives sympathy and mercy from us. We become hardened like steel, don’t sweat it! There’s a purpose for our existence, we restore balance to all the utter insanity that others spend their entire lives stumbling through! The utter s~~~ you now AVOID is truly PRICELESS. Back to basics, count your blessings, the toxic feminist poison no longer infects your mind!

[Anonymous 29]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

What do you do when you have no more f~~~s to give? As I continue on my path, I’ve found that there are really very few things I give a f~~~ about. I always figured that the f~~~s I give were somehow a renewable source, but lately I’ve come to notice that regardless of what happens there is no more outrage or sympathy, for anyone or anything. I realize this is probably not good for me, but what can I say…. I’m cynical and jaded to no end. I don’t feel bad about not giving a f~~~, but I am concerned it could be a problem down the road. My “Red Pill rage” subsided a while back, and then I wanted to help other men. Now, I don’t even feel like doing that, what’s wrong with me?

I know that there are 2 things required for a man to love, the ability to trust, and innocence in his heart. While I do still retain a minor ability to trust I must concede there is no innocence left in my heart… it is soured. I’m not a man interested in changing the world, only myself. How do I turn the pickle that is my heart back into a cucumber? I don’t like not caring as much as I thought I would, before it happened I imagined it would be great, that there would be no more pain, but I feel diminished somehow. I’m not an emotional person to begin with, but now I am a little freaked out about a complete absence of care. I finally got where I thought I wanted to be and it is NOT what I expected, what now?

I do think that you are selling yourself short.

What you are describing about your self is more or less a normal stage we all go through after years of undetected depression. Becoming relatively free of most every day bulls~~~ that you wore like a yoke around your neck is gone and you feel empty.
Your body and mind have been under stress so long that it was normal and now without it it seems strange, odd and life almost meaningless.
Junkie’s, smoker’s alcoholic’s or even habitual shop lifters feel the same emptiness/loss once they stop the habit even though they fully realize that their habits were damaging them.

It is a sign for you that you have a clean slate to work with, so waste no time.
There must be at least a few small things in your life that do interest you . . . .and although they may seem to be insignificant, they are your points of focus. Each day , each week you focus and refine those interests and add new ones that are similar or be bald and do something that is new and not in your comfort zone.

Do not allow yourself luxury of not caring. You may have stopped hating women but there are other things you can start hating that do no damage to you or any one else to keep the fire burning in your belly.
My one pet hate that I’ve had for thirty years was and still is . . . . wildlife killed on our roads. That is why I became a part time carer for injured animals.. It may not be much but it does work.

Do not lose interest in hope, focus or yourself.

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