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Ok guys we all know that when we were once in blue pill hell with the rest of the poor uninformed men out there we projected our values of love,honor,duty, and gratitude onto women. This was a major mistake we all made because these are obviously only male qualities.After you realize that Women just look at you like a human ATM and a slave and have no interest in your personality other than seeing how they can manipulate you into changing it there’s not much room left for anything resembling what men think of when they think of the word “love”. So what the hell are women talking about when they tell us that they “love” us….what emotion do they relate that word to in there backwards way of thinking??
So what the hell are women talking about when they tell us that they “love” us….what emotion do they relate that word to in there backwards way of thinking??
I’ve heard it said “love is the illusion that one woman differs from another”.
Deflating, yes. But is it false?Women don’t love you. They love what you can do for them. Pay attention to the way they talk about it. Not ONE woman can define it if you ask them. I found that to be the key. Even Celine Dion sings “love comes to those who believe it”. What’s the key word in there?
“COMES”.
Women believe in their hearts that love COMES to them. This can be seen everywhere. In an episode of Sex and the City, a woman stood on stage in a self-help class and said “let love come to you…. only when you are open to that will it enter your life”. What a bunch of bulls~~~. Women think love is something they find. Something that comes to them. Like a lottery win.
• “When will I FIND him?”
• “Be patient. You will FIND love.”
• “I know some day I will FIND someone who loves me.”That’s how women speak!
But love is not what you FIND. It’s what you GIVE… even when it doesn’t come back to you.
The people we GIVE the most to, are the ones we LOVE the most.But women think “love” is something they GET.
And when they are not getting, they are miserable.Every time I hear a woman mention “love” in a sentence, I know she has no f~~~ing idea what she is talking about. I will ask “what does that mean to you? Can you define it?”. Nobody can define it, she says. “it’s just a feeling. You just know.” And that’s how she gives herself away. More bulls~~~.
Women sit back and wait for love to COME to them. They sign up to dating websites and think they have some control over when Mr. Right is supposed to show up in their lives and woosh them away for no goddam reason. “Where is he?” they wonder. Your 3RD clue. Then I read the Manipulated Man, by Esther Vilar, where she talks about all the false pretenses women operate under… “under the guise of love”.
Then I heard one of my own EX-girlfriends (now married with a kid) say “you should really have a kid. It’s a love unlike any other” in an email. I’m thinking don’t tell your husband that, for f~~~ sake. If I heard my wife say that, I would dump her so fast it would make her head spin. Better him than me – as I thanked my personal God I never married someone who lectures on “love” like an almighty authority (as if she knows better than me) – pushing the idea that “love” applies to the kid, and the husband was just the sperm donor.
You’re absolutely right. The female idea of love is ass f~~~ing backwards. They are busted on this topic.
How else could women CELEBRATE their divorces (read failed marriage) with such glee and happily take a huge monthly payout while watching the man she once pretended to “love” f~~~ing kill himself. Make no mistake, men. She doesn’t love you. She loves what you can give her – as the receptor – and nothing else.
Love works like this:
MEN >>> WOMEN >>> CHILDREN >>> PUPPIES.
It never works in reverse.
When I saw it illustrated like that, damn near every example of women tossing the word “love” around like a frisbee suddenly made sense. It was as if I unlocked one of the great secrets of the universe. In every case, they responded rather well to the “love” and happily accepted it, but when that well dried up, they are nowhere to be found. You will discover this when a woman has said she “loves” you 100 times… then you come home and tell her you lost your job on some random Tuesday. By Friday, she will be planning her departure as certain as the sun will rise tomorrow.
But don’t misunderstand, this realization was an ENORMOUSLY happy day for me. Because in making this discovery, I also learned that I don’t need a woman in my life to have as much love as I want. A man doesn’t need anyone’s permission to have love in his life. We love our jobs. We love our cars. We love ourselves. Because love is something you GIVE….. when you give to yourself, it will always come back to you. When I love my job, the rewards have been enormous. When I love my car and pour into it, I get back what I invest. Has any man ever said that about his girlfriend or wife? Any man who does has been properly fooled. She successfully manipulated him.
Love is something you GIVE. Any woman who doesn’t understand that – and is sitting back with her f~~~ing arms and legs folded waiting for it to “come” to her – can hit the bricks. You can have plenty of love in your life by giving to OTHER people and yourself. You don’t need to wait for anyone’s permission. That’s the beauty of it all.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.When a woman says to me or to you ” I love you.”
ask her a question: ” Are you sure? Are you sure you are in love with ME?”
then another: ” Or are you in love with what i represent to you? One of your little f~~~ fantasies? Or are you in love with my status?”
They will pounce on you, often calling you a jerk, a monster for questioning their “love” or tearfully reassuring you that ” I LOOOOOVE YOUUUUU.”
ask them another question: “Okay. Who am I then? Define me as a person. What my are my thoughts, my values, my beliefs?
They will either mumble some of their bulls~~~ or just stare at you in stunned silence.
And this is the thing, basically one of my biggest realizations. A woman will never love “you” as a person. She will never even know who you truly were. She will only remember what car you drove, how much money you had and what materialistic needs you fullfilled for her. If even that.
The right man at the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.
Thanks Yuri, I wish to add….
Whenever a woman says anything about her current emotional state, in your mind, append it with the words “right now”.
• I love you…. right now.
• I love spending time with you… right now.
• I really want… right now.
• I feel like… right now.
• I feel like I need… right now.That’s what she means. She’s doesn’t mean “i love you” as in generelly, universally, and always…. or even into next week. She means it only in that fleeting moment. It’s a temporary statement as surely as she is a temporary pleasure. This is how you can lose your job and the same girl who “loves” you can exit with no problem by the end of the week.
This will prepare you for any dramatic and drastic bait and/or switch and you will be better prepared when she flips on a dime.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Thats the main thing that really set me free and helped me our a lot as well. When I found out that they don’t have any of the feelings we have for them I could really care less if I ever talk to another woman again in my life. It seems that women sit around and wait for a lot more things just to “come” to them than just love,they do this with every other resource on earth!! Thats why all the major contributions other than child bearing are made by men. The only things women have to GIVE to society are things they were naturally born with (pussy and babies), and they hold those things hostage just so the world will give them more crap they don’t deserve! It really is completely disgusting when you think about it…its also disgusting that men are born with a biological need to deal with this insanity and be blinded to it. It amazes me how much most men will put up with, just the fact that most of us are willing to deal with this kind of treatment and abuse from the opposite sex makes me really question mens sanity as well….I can understand why women end up thinking this is a big joke…If I was able to scam a guy in the exact same way for his entire life over and over again I would probably think it was a big joke as well. I think mens biggest weakness is the fact that we project our idea of “love” onto women and think that since thats the way we view it that its obviously just human behavior found in both males and females….with all the garbage we get fed its a really easy assumption to make. But you definitely gave me some new insight with your response and some new things to think about.
just the fact that most of us are willing to deal with this kind of treatment and abuse from the opposite sex makes me really question mens sanity as well
I get that and it’s easy to think that… but no men are willing to deal with it. They only end up dealing with it when they are already neck-deep in it. When a man understands all of this in advance, he would never do it knowingly.
Men do this (and only agree to it) because they are misled and manipulated under the guise of “love”.
In both cases, the women planned and deliberately set out to deceive counting on completely and totally misrepresenting themselves. One of them even before the wedding(!), and the other joyful that the men in her social circle are not as smart or educated on the topic as we are. If he consciously walked into it, accepted it fully and willingly allowed himself to be devastated by it, then I would be the first to call him insane.
But this is not a flaw in male character. The flaw is hers.
They only think they “won” (and it’s not a flaw) because they got away with it.
It makes them positively GIDDY.AND PS. Welcome “coolsideofthepillow” to MGTOW. In case I didn’t say it already.
Happy to have you here and thank you for joining. Great topic to open with.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Yeah those 2 women are prime examples of the nature of women. I couldn’t believe how bad it actually is when I first started looking into all this stuff. It amazes me how they have kept the worlds biggest con job going on this long. They might not be good at anything else but it amazes me how long and how perfectly they have gotten away with this f~~~ed up s~~~.It will be hilarious if the castle actually comes tumbling down because of MGTOW, but it sucks to see so many white knights and manginas out there still defending their princesses….as long as tons men like them hold on to delusions and pussy addiction the reign of terror will continue. thanks for the welcome keymaster!
What eases my frustration when I encounter one of those idiots (some even in my own social circle) I am able to keep grinning by saying:
“Oh, I believe marriage is right – For YOU. Not for me. For YOU.
Who the f~~~ else is going to keep the whole ridiculous gong show going?
Certainly not me. So, dream away friends. There must be a diamond out there in that landfill.
Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. They’re just bitter.”I just pull the pin on that hand grenade … and gently set it down on the table.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Females don’t know the true essence what love is, nor can they comprehend how love works as well. Women are emotionally based creatures, anything and everything that they do, be it an important decision or not, is based purely on emotion. That’s why the return department were created, not only for crap that doesn’t work(with proof of purchase) but also women who make emotional decisions and later on regret buying it.
For example, Women Marry their high school sweetheart, thinking that “Hey, high school was tough, we can make this work”. Until they both get out into the real world and find out high school was a cake walk, because mommy and daddy paid for everything, and their perception of love was actually puppy love, sweet on the outside, stupid on the inside. So now, the once cool Star Quarterback is working 50 hours a week, he’s putting on weight, he’s stressed out trying to pay ALL the bills, kids diapers, put food on the table. Now, she wants out because the marriage “is not what it use to be” or the all time classic “He turned into a douchebag”.
It’s never about them, it’s always someone else, a family member, or a co-worker. They think Marriage is going to be this Disney movie they spent watching hours on, reality is, it’s not. So they end up cheating, they end up lying and who pays for it?, THE MAN. All because “She doesn’t feel loved anymore”.
Ummm hello?, your Husband works a s~~~ load of hours, He works over time so You and Your Kids can eat and live, the time off he does have, you keep nagging him to go to the mall or spend HIS money, and if He just wants to stay at home and chill, they cry “You don’t love your family“. He’s actually SHOWING His love by action, not just by words, and yes action does speak louder then words.
Females being to accumulate excuses once their perception of “Love” dwindles. They want to be in control of You. My own personal belief is that when a Woman tells you she “loves you”, it’s like a Jedi Mind trick, changing your perception, weakening your defenses. “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for”. She’ll like the same football team you’ll like, she’ll even get you gifts that appeal to whatever you enjoy, games, weapons, tickets to a movie you wanna see. These are “Patterns” in which they use to suck you in, and manipulate your senses.
In their minds they think: “I’ll give him what He wants for now, then later he’ll do anything I ask. Because this is what love is”.
What sucks is that, most guys will have the mentality by which they say “Maybe if I do what she wants, she’ll love me more, or maybe things will go back the way it was”. Wrong, it won’t, once that nagging bitch manifests you’re pretty much stuck with the REAL HER.
I can go on and on about this because let me tell ya, I’ve been played by the best, I mean Women who spoiled me, f~~~ed amazingly, and even did things for me that seemed really amazing, only later on to be manipulated and practically chopping off my b~~~~ to live a life of servitude to their every whim (thank God that didn’t happen). But it was a learning experience, it made me wiser, it helped me grow a thick skin, and made me aware of the Patterns by which they use.
And I’m glad I met different types of Women who used different tactics or methods of manipulation, because you begin to know your enemy. I don’t mean that in a bad way, I’m not saying women are the enemy, I just mean the Tactic’s or methods of manipulation, don’t be ignorant to them, and always be on your guard.
It’s kinda like Sarah Conner in the first Terminator, Here’s this naive girl living her life working a s~~~ty job, living her boring life, when all of a sudden some huge Dude dressed like a Punk Rocker points a Gun at Her head in a night club (Tech-Noir to be exact) and her whole world is changed forever. Fast Forward a couple of years and she’s this bad ass chick that knows weapons, survival skills and other useful s~~~. However, when She comes face to face with the T-1000, all experience is blown right out the window. Why?, because she never encountered this before, this s~~~ is new, it’s liquid- it’s deadly. The original Terminator has to help her, teach her how this new Terminator works, thinks, and operates.
Sarah Conner represents the blue pill man, T2-Arnold represents life, experience, T-1000 Represents Women and their tactics and patterns of manipulation. You think you might know, but often times there will come a Woman will throw a curve ball at you, which is why I said earlier, you got to know the patterns and be sharp and listen carefully watch how they do s~~~, because it changes from woman to woman.
And by the way, when I use the Sarah Conner Analogy, I’m not saying Men are dumb and weak, I mean in the aspect of “Blue Pill mentality” in all it’s ignorance and in all it’s innocence, that’s what we were when we use to swallow the Blue Pill. And where does Kyle Reese come in?, Well Kyle Reese is the Red Pill, hard to believe at first, but later on, once you see the patterns you say to yourself “the motherf~~~er was right”.
The true nature of a Woman’s Love is summed up quite well in this quote.
“Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
-Kyle Reese
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
If I can throw in my 2 cents worth, I think many women consider “love” to be strictly an emotion which they “feel” or not, and can turn off on a whim . I’m no expert but I think “love” is also an action as well as an emotion. Their idea of “loving” you is providing you with sex (usually conditional)but many have no problem belittling you in front of your friends (this is not “showing” love, but contempt) . My brothers wife does this s~~~ and I just walk away. Another example, she got him to come and get her from her Mother’s house (a 90 minute drive late at night). He wound up blowing a tire and ruining a wheel . If she wanted to “show” how much she “loved” him she would have said something like “I can stay here tonight dear, I don’t want you traveling those roads at night”. But no. I WANT to come home NOW! . (But she will “tell” him I “love” you when he does get there) When it comes to love I think many women just find it something easy to say, not actually do.
They love what you can provide. Money, favors, lifting heavy things, changing flat tires, killing spiders, etc. When the BBD comes along they’ll ‘love’ him.
Repeat until death.
Fuck this planet.Women love what we can offer them as pointed out by my fellow MGTOW brothers above, we’re disposable objects to women its that simple, and yet they make it out to be the other way around like we treat them as “objects”. Its not just relationships, Marriage, and the “System” I dislike its a womans entire biological build, what they have evolved into is disgusting, and it will only get worse in the future…if left untreated. Perhaps it is possible thousands of years from now for males to live in peace with women, but that will only happen if MGTOW spreads we have got to change how males everywhere interact with women. Men everywhere need to see women for what they’re, and not for what we want them to be…truth is they’re blood sucking savages.
Women have their benefits…use them for those benefits just as they use us, and GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE stop sticking around for something that doesn’t exist. You will never find that beautiful princess you’re looking for, so stop trying to mold yourself into prince charming ! Look at Disney movies thats what women think of us we buy the expensive ring, and get on one knee for them, but what do they do…NOTHING ! Men don’t get an equally expensive ring, and women don’t dare get on one knee for us, we GIVE GIVE GIVE, and they TAKE TAKE TAKE. When is the last time you seen a woman prove her love to a man?! Yeah…thats what I thought.
Love means nothing for women.
They can fall in love with a dog if the dog is nice with them.They all want to manipulate us when they use the word “LOVE”.
I think (maybe I’m wrong) women do’nt know what is true love. They sometime think sex is love.
Just my 2 cents :
I felt in love with a woman when I was younger : she banged a lot of men just because she was ‘naive’ as she told me.
She’s really nice, great body, blond, blue eyes … a real beautiful woman.When a man was nice with her, she slept with him and hoped that he would be the one.
She has never been single ONE week since her 18. When a guy left, she found a new one very quickly.
She has been married 5 years and she cheated on her husband because he had an affair too …her revenge.
she f~~~ed 2 guys met on Internet just after knowing, only because she wanted to see if she was still attractive.
Instead of leaving her husband, a woman prefers to f~~~ all the guys around ????After these 2 guys, she had a sex friend … a foreign student … younger than her.
It is disappointing to know the truth when you love a woman. They’re like children.
They KNOW they can f~~~ anywhere, anytime, and they use this power in order to manipulate us with their sexual attraction.
She tried to convince me that all men she knows were just friends (I know she f~~~ed 2 of them, years ago).
And she was convinced that her new male friends wanted only friendship … “of course honey. I’m not a jerk”
Don’t know if she really believed it. I’m sure she didn”t. f~~~in Female ego …I really loved this girl and years after, I’m feeling angry. According to her, she loved the soccer team (+ the substitutes + the arbitrators) which f~~~ed her …
They all were true love stories
Maybe some girls are not like that … don’t know. But I don’t want to know. Better to be a MGTOW.
I must say that this girl is one of the best thing I had in my life : because of her, I took the red pill.It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Feminism in a nutshell.
So what the hell are women talking about when they tell us that they “love” us??
I’ll make this simple. Translated: “love” = “feel good”.
Don’t over think it, that is the biggest mistake most men make.
You know the word love is bounced around so much now that it has lost any real meaning-like saying merry f~~~ing xmas to someone you hardly know.
I equate this to “drunk talk” amongst friends,you know when buddy says “hey bro,I’ll have your back no matter what” Of course he’s full of s~~~-he’s drunk.So when I hear some c~~~ use the L word I don’t think she’s drunk (well sometimes) I just look at her the same way I would a child who doesn’t know the meaning of what they are saying.
Whow ! Thanks guys for some great answers to a great question from Cools (welcome my friend). It well and truly clarifies the feelings and thoughts I had during and after my marriage. In my intro title ( I blame love) I came to this conclusion, but far, far too late. I realised the love I felt and gave bared no relation to her definition of the word . She would tell me she loved me quite often, even right up to her cheating and would complain throughout our long marriage that I didn’t say I loved her enough. This just completely confirms the truth of what you guys have said, ” women’s “I love you” BS is just one big juicy carrot they dangle in front of you.
Here’s another thought: SONG lyrics.
Now there’s the female ID on “love” exposed.While many rock ballads and cheesy 80s tunes contain words no man ever says in life unless he’s drunk or horny….. MEN WROTE THEM. Chicago. Billy Joel. Maroon 5. Journey. Foreigner. The endless list goes on. Chris De Burg wrote THE love song of the century “Lady in Red”. Songs written and dedicated to women – even containing their names! Always about some guy looking for ANY way to make it work. He’ll say anything. He’ll do anything. He’ll climb the highest mountain and scale the tallest tower. Justin Bieber is even stupid enough to be willing to “die in her arms”. Prince “I would die for you”.
Now listen to female song lyrics.
NONE of them about her crawling through s~~~ (or killing herself) for some guy.Madonna Material Girl “you can’t afford my whore ass”, and “Express yourself, he’ll be back on his knees”.
Destiny’s Child “pay my telephone bills”.
Beyonce “put a ring on it”.
Whitney Houston “Greatest love of all is all about ME”.
Britney “Ooops I did it again. I played with your heart”
Goldfinger “His web of sin , but don’t go in”.
Aretha Franklin “Respect ME”.
Christina Aquiliera “I am beautiful – no matter what they say” (about herself of course).The only song lyrics I can think of which shows a woman willing to love a man no matter what is “My Funny Valentine”. But even that is about a geeky, nerdy, awkward dude with a bad haircut who she kinda likes anyway. Even Celine Dion’s “the power of love” and “because you loved me” is about what he does for her.
There it is fellows and gents. Right on the f~~~in’ radio.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I know what I mean by “love.” It’s a glandular condition. It is a temporary state brought on by massive doses of hormones. When the glands run out of juice, “love” fades and is replaced by some other emotion, probably its opposite.
There is no stopping these emotions. We just have to be self-aware enough to see them as they happen to us, and we have to be smart enough to not allow them to run our lives. Slaves let outside forces run their lives. Free men do not.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
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… then you come home and tell her you lost your job on some random Tuesday. By Friday, she will be planning her departure as certain as the sun will rise tomorrow.
This is so, so true! Unless you have a house and movable goods, then she will be planning your departure.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
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