What are "Judeo-Christian values"?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

So, Trump gave a speech where he spoke of “Judeo-Christian values”:
President Trump Speech at Value Voters Summit…

Is that having everyone say “Merry Christmas”?

This is from the speech:
We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values. (Applause.) Thank you. Thank you very much. And something I’ve said so much during the last two years, but I’ll say it again as we approach the end of the year. You know, we’re getting near that beautiful Christmas season that people don’t talk about anymore. (Laughter.) They don’t use the word “Christmas” because it’s not politically correct. You go to department stores, and they’ll say, “Happy New Year” and they’ll say other things. And it will be red, they’ll have it painted, but they don’t say it. Well, guess what? We’re saying “Merry Christmas” again. (Applause.)

Exactly how does saying “Merry Christmas” fit the Judeo part of Judeo-Christian, which references Judaism.

Anyone have a better explanation? As I see it, “Judeo-Christian” is some sort of watered down hybrid of Judaism and Christianity that doesn’t do either religion much decent, but demands total loyalty this bastardized mix.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

It’s a bunch of bulls~~~, packed on crap, and spread with p~~~.

Also, trump is the president of USA, a good business men, but he is a cold blooded shark, with no values at all.

So everything he says take it with some salt.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[bladeParticipant]

I can see where this threads going to go . Lol

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 1]

Many of the Holidays we celebrate as Christian are from older Pagan holidays. When the original Christian Bishops and Priests were converting Europe they decided to allow the natives to keep their old holidays. Otherwise, they would not have converted to Christianity as they had been celebrating these days for time out of mind. They created a Christian mythos for the days and worked them into the cannon. December 25, is not actually Jesus Christ birthday. Fact of the matter is, no one really knows for sure what day He was born.

Christmas is really more similar to the Roman Holiday Saturnalia. Also bringing some elements of Yule celebration in Viking culture.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Judeo values:

YWHA is the eternal first cause outside of the universe. He created everything. His final creation on earth is man. Male and female. Eve the first woman was manipulated by the devil, to eat the forbidden fruit. Immediately after that, she nagged Adam into eating the fruit too. Mankind realizes what a colossal f~~~ up just took place.

After generations of continued decay. God got tired of the evil on earth. Sent the great flood and killed everything here, except what was alive on Noah’s ark.

1000 years plus or minus later. Mankind forgot about the YWHA. He spoke to a man name Abraham who was reletively wealthy and on his way out of the world. Most of his life before this event he lived in modern day Iraq. His wife was barren, God promised Abramah he’d have a biological son, with Sarah his wife. Whose offspring will bless every family on earth.

Approximately 500 years later. Abrahams biological offspring through Jacob, where slaves in Egypt.

YWHA raised up a Levite man named Moses. To lead Gods people out of Egypt. God have the 10 commandment to Moses. As well as 600+ civl laws. To make the Hebrews a nation unlike any other on earth. The major yearly holiday is passover. The weekly celebration is the sabbath.

Christian values:

All the the stuff previously described is believed accurate. Jesus the Messiah of Nazareth. Was born in Bethlehem, around 0 AD. He’s the ultimate promised member of Abrahams family to bless all families on the earth.

Jesus is also the promised God/Man/Emmanuel. He fulfilled the law of Moses without error. He brought a message of peace between God and Man. The peace would be accomplished by Jesus’ own work.

Evidences of a person receiving this peace. Are loving one’s neighbors, with the same care they have for themselves. Not being motivated by envy, malice, rage, and a host of other crap that plagues mankind.

Jesus was so successful in his living and speaking. The elites of his age, murdered him on the cross. He’s resurrected and continually in the corner of people who’ve accepted his peace offering.

The major holidays are Christmas. Celebrating the day he was born. As well as Easter the remembrance of his execution and resurrection.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Anonymous 1]

narrow road traveler wrote:

The major holidays are Christmas. Celebrating the day he was born. As well as Easter the remembrance of his execution and resurrection.

Again, Christmas is not literally the day He was born. Just a day chosen to celebrate his birth. Same for Easter. Easter actually is a carry over from a Pagan festival called Eostre. An old fertility rite. The Catholic Church had to compromise with the Native peoples and allowed them to keep their old Holidays, provided that the people celebrate Jesus Christ life and resurrection instead of the old way (Easter bunny and eggs) etc.

Easter

You can read more about this in Venerable Bede’s History of England. He talks about the struggle of the early Christian missionaries with the Saxon Pagans of that time.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Religion is a crock of s~~~ mind control invention.

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[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

It’sallbs wrote:

Religion is a crock of s~~~ mind control invention.

Marxists took us from our homes. Then put us into indoctrination camps. For 4 generation. You’re right, religion is a crock of s~~~.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

It’sallbs is far from being indoctrinated but there is a valid point that Christianity now has been so heavily tinkered with and paganized that it has stemmed off from it’s true Judaic roots. Of course there’s traces of Judaism in it here and there but a lot of its metaphysics and practices come from paganism.

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[Anonymous 1]

Joey Alfio wrote:

It’sallbs is far from being indoctrinated but there is a valid point that Christianity now has been so heavily tinkered with and paganized that it has stemmed off from it’s true Judaic roots. Of course there’s traces of Judaism in it here and there but a lot of its metaphysics and practices come from paganism.

That is why the Protestants broke off from the Catholic Church. The Catholics compromised with the pagans and became a quasi-pagan organization. Many of the old gods became Saints in the Church cannon. Whether in Ireland or Scandinavia, you can see the Saints are all the old gods. Praying to the Saints for help and all that was a carry over from pagan times. As I already stated, the holidays are totally pagan in their origins.

The Protestants wanted the Pure Christian teachings that is why they are called “Puritan.” They emphasized the Hebrew scriptures and translated the Bible into the Vernacular languages. The Old Testament is very important in Protestant sects. I, myself, grew up in a fundamentalist Protestant Church where the Old Testament is taught as Historical Fact.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Anonymous wrote:

Joey Alfio wrote:

It’sallbs is far from being indoctrinated but there is a valid point that Christianity now has been so heavily tinkered with and paganized that it has stemmed off from it’s true Judaic roots. Of course there’s traces of Judaism in it here and there but a lot of its metaphysics and practices come from paganism.

That is why the Protestants broke off from the Catholic Church. The Catholics compromised with the pagans and became a quasi-pagan organization. Many of the old gods became Saints in the Church cannon. Whether in Ireland or Scandinavia, you can see the Saints are all the old gods. Praying to the Saints for help and all that was a carry over from pagan times. As I already stated, the holidays are totally pagan in their origins.

The Protestants wanted the Pure Christian teachings that is why they are called “Puritan.” They emphasized the Hebrew scriptures and translated the Bible into the Vernacular languages. The Old Testament is very important in Protestant sects. I, myself, grew up in a fundamentalist Protestant Church where the Old Testament is taught as Historical Fact.

Marxists say the ice age is a geological fact. All mankind evolved separately and parallel.

Biological dna tests prove. Every man has a Y chromosome, named Adam from infinity. Biolagical dna tests prove that all human life is born from xxEve. Truth is Truth.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Joey Alfio wrote:

It’sallbs is far from being indoctrinated but there is a valid point that Christianity now has been so heavily tinkered with and paganized that it has stemmed off from it’s true Judaic roots. Of course there’s traces of Judaism in it here and there but a lot of its metaphysics and practices come from paganism.

The original post I made regarding this subject, isnt muddy. All of it is backed up by the authors of the bible.

Shadows chase shadows quoting shadows. No one knows s~~~ from the expert to s~~~.

F~~~ it read God’s Word.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

narrow road traveler wrote:

Biological dna tests prove. Every man has a Y chromosome, named Adam from infinity. Biolagical dna tests prove that all human life is born from xxEve. Truth is Truth.

Now tell me, who’s sounding more indoctrinated at this point?

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[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Joey Alfio wrote:

narrow road traveler wrote:

Biological dna tests prove. Every man has a Y chromosome, named Adam from infinity. Biolagical dna tests prove that all human life is born from xxEve. Truth is Truth.

Now tell me, who’s sounding more indoctrinated at this point?

The biological fact is. All y chomosones descend from one y. All human life descends from xx.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[FrankOneParticipant 1439]

I prefer the values of the Enlightenment and the Constitution: Individualism and human freedom.

The term ‘Judeo-Christian’ itself, came into widespread use, to tramp down anti-semitism in the 1930’s depression era in the US — originally used by liberals. Now, it’s a term mostly co-opted by the religious right. But what are ‘Judeo-Christian values’? If there are these common values, why so much anti-semitism in the history of Christianity?

I find the term offensive because its users often imply one can have no values without Judaism or Christianity.

Anatomically modern man has existed for somewhere between 200,000 and 400,000 years. Judaism is only about 3,500 years old, and Christianity, just over 2,000 years old — relative newcomers in the culture and business (damn I’m cynical) of ‘religion’.

Values have little to do with celebrating a holiday (Christmas). So it’s the usual muddled Trump thinking.

As for Marxism, it is ALSO a crock of s~~~ and mind-control invention. In Medieval Christendom, with one religion forced down your throat, do you have more freedom than in the Soviet Union before its breakup? So it isn’t just Marxists that run re-education camps, it is also the Taliban and Liberty University.

It is a good thing that the US Federal Government does not have an Established Religion (the colonies did).

[Anonymous 1]

FrankOne wrote:

It is a good thing that the US Federal Government does not have an Established Religion (the colonies did).

Ah, but they do have an established Religion. The religion of power and they practice “Might makes Right.” Lol.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Then 10 commandments basically.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[FrankOneParticipant 1439]

Anonymous wrote:

FrankOne wrote:

It is a good thing that the US Federal Government does not have an Established Religion (the colonies did).

Ah, but they do have an established Religion. The religion of power and they practice “Might makes Right.” Lol.

Yes, and the creeds of narcissism, envy, wealth and income redistribution, along with endless deficits, debt, and wars. Together, this ‘religion’ can be precisely designated ‘Statism’.

A statist system—whether of a communist, fascist, Nazi, socialist or “welfare” type—is based on the . . . government’s unlimited power, which means: on the rule of brute force. The differences among statist systems are only a matter of time and degree; the principle is the same. Under statism, the government is not a policeman, but a legalized criminal that holds the power to use physical force in any manner and for any purpose it pleases against legally disarmed, defenseless victims. -Ayn Rand

Both of the major political parties in the US are *fundamentally* Statist as are almost every elected officeholer.

As to the whole question of Judeo-Christian values, if you take the last 6 of the ten commandments, they basically comprise the Golden Rule of treating others as you would have them treat you. That concept or value set is most certainly not unique to Judaism or Christianity. But ‘Judeo-Christian’ is a better way to pander to the your base.

[Anonymous 1]

FrankOne wrote:

Yes, and the creeds of narcissism, envy, wealth and income redistribution, along with endless deficits, debt, and wars. Together, this ‘religion’ can be precisely designated ‘Statism’.

A statist system—whether of a communist, fascist, Nazi, socialist or “welfare” type—is based on the . . . government’s unlimited power, which means: on the rule of brute force. The differences among statist systems are only a matter of time and degree; the principle is the same. Under statism, the government is not a policeman, but a legalized criminal that holds the power to use physical force in any manner and for any purpose it pleases against legally disarmed, defenseless victims. -Ayn Rand

Both of the major political parties in the US are *fundamentally* Statist as are almost every elected officeholer.

As to the whole question of Judeo-Christian values, if you take the last 6 of the ten commandments, they basically comprise the Golden Rule of treating others as you would have them treat you. That concept or value set is most certainly not unique to Judaism or Christianity. But ‘Judeo-Christian’ is a better way to pander to the your base.

Yup, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve found the Golden Rule is accepted as the basis of Morality in every major religion across the world. Its just common sense really.

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