Were women always this bad in regards to how they choose who to date?

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  • #117903
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    WOTGM
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    I am a good looking intelligent man, who is also decent. Apparently, the latter quality is a bad one for women nowadays (along with not being rich). Currently I am in my late 30’s with absolutely no prospects or hope/desire to EVER find or marry one of these beasts with breasts. But today I was wondering, how the hell did my father, his father, and his father etc. continue my line for so damn long considering how TERRIBLE and how HARD it is to find even a REMOTELY DECENT woman in today’s world?

    Is it a generational thing? Or is it me? It is hard not to question myself sometimes. I inherited my family line’s nice looks and intelligence, yet it seems impossible for me to find a woman that I could even consider going out with let alone marry and have kids with! I truly believe the line will end with me and sometimes I feel s~~~ty about it, because at times I am not totally opposed to the whole family thing IF I could ever find a decent woman. But I just don’t see any!!!

    Is this it? Will the line end with me? Is it me? Is it this generation? Please somebody help me to understand: Why me? For hundreds and hundreds of years my family line kept producing offspring, but it’s going to end with me. Why? Is it my fault? Or is it the time we are living in which is slowly killing off men’s ability to marry and have kids? Help me understand!

    #117921
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    RoyDal
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    This problem has been recorded in writing since the days of ancient Sumer. The answer is: Yes they were always this bad. The solution was always oppressive patriarchal customs that bounded the behavior of women (the respectable ones). A brief overview of the laws and customs of Greece in the age of Pericles, the old Roman republic, and the Britain & USA of the 1800s will quickly uncover a common theme — women were required to be very circumspect in their public behavior and switching husbands was next to impossible.

    It is no coincidence that when these cultures went into decline, women’s licence to cat around expanded. Not the actual cause of cultural decline (I think) but a glaringly obvious signpost.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #117926
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    Pharmer
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    Yeah the same thought has crossed my mind too. As much sense as I can make It seems to be their natural way. Just now the have the freedom to be as s~~~ty as they want and the government will pick up the tab, that is force you to pay, even if its just in tax going to professional solo mums.
    Back in the day they knew they couldn’t pull the s~~~ty games they do now and get away with it.

    Never fuck a crazy chick.

    #117939
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    Megatoad69
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    Well, combine all that with commercials on TV that tell a man he is not a man unless he drives a ______.
    The Jewelry stores make sure that guys feel bad if they don’t show their love with an expensive piece of glittery bling, or for the bride, a big rock to put on their finger to show off to the other girls.
    They see highly paid hunks on TV and they dream of that lifestyle.
    They want a nice house.
    And they don’t want to wait, they want it NOW!
    They go after the guys all the other women are already after, leaving a huge pool of dudes mate less.
    When they make money at their ‘career’ they don’t date down, even though they are ‘independent’

    The media has told them all this is out there for them, they just have to hold out for a prince to make them feel like the princess’s they are, the prince has to bend over backwards for them, make a lot of money, be a servant but not be sub-servient, he must be able to read minds.

    Women are like kids, incapable of independent thought, they believe what they are told they are supposed to believe, they are mimickers, which is why they love trendy things, they are confusing and lack reason, they flirt when they are not available so men get mixed signals eventually giving up.
    (read my sig)

    Is this helping you understand?
    Women just need to be re-programmed, unfortunately MGTOW is the only way to do it.

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #117942
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    MonkeyMind
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    Yes, they’ve always been this way. Hypergamy has been around since the dawn of time.

    We’re primates so our natural mating strategy is an Alpha Male with a Harem. The remaining chimps are cast out to be picked off & eaten by wild animals which keeps the females safer in an inner zone around the alpha male. This is also the preferred mating strategy for women because the all want to mate with Chad Thunderc~~~ whether they admit to it or not.

    The old system of marriage is dying but it was a more fairer and stable society where everyone got a mate and bear children.

    #117951
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    Megatoad69
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    Thinking about a legal name change, ‘Chad Thunderc~~~’………..Hmmmmm?
    Could I handle all that attention?

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #117975
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    MonkeyMind
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    Thinking about a legal name change, ‘Chad Thunderc~~~’………..Hmmmmm?Could I handle all that attention?

    I’ve thought the same thing, women must be reading online about this Chad Thunderc~~~ guy and wondering where he is so they can form an orderly queue ready to f~~~ his his brains out.

    #118005
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    Beer
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    Yeah the same thought has crossed my mind too. As much sense as I can make It seems to be their natural way. Just now the have the freedom to be as s~~~ty as they want and the government will pick up the tab, that is force you to pay, even if its just in tax going to professional solo mums.
    Back in the day they knew they couldn’t pull the s~~~ty games they do now and get away with it.

    This is what I was thinking as well. The government has made it so easy to screw a man over in divorce, and for single moms to get free hand outs, and as a society being a single mother or having kids out of wedlock is no longer frowned upon, so women are taking full advantage of it.

    Back in the day when things weren’t like this it seems natural that women had a lot more incentive to go for a good guy rather than the bad boy. Its still like this with men, only men aren’t as stupid as women about it. For example…ask some guys how they feel about dating a stripper. Most are either going to say F~~~ NO I WOULDN’T TOUCH IT or that they’d f~~~ her because she’s hot but they’d never take her seriously. We know that chick is going to be more f~~~ed up than the average chick, and that we won’t be able to change her. Meanwhile…you can take some bad boy thug and women will be dripping wet trying to get with him thinking they can change him. Once they realize they can’t, and have already popped out his spawn, its not a big deal, they’ll just get freebies from the government and go look for the next bad boy thug to f~~~.

    If divorce laws were less biased against men, and welfare programs were massively reduced women would start to choose a little more wisely. I’m sure if you want to go far back in history there were always dumb women who made awful choices, but at the same time those people also ended up in debtors prison, living on the street, starving, freezing, etc.

    Basically if you know the consequences for choosing a bad mate mean your life is going to suck, more people are going to put a little more thought into who they choose to form relationships with.(its what everyone on this forum is doing!) On the other hand, when f~~~ing up means you get rewarded, like modern society loves to do, what incentive do you have to not f~~~ up?

    #118097
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    Just a Man
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    I’m rather glad to be the end of my line. I mean my sister had a daughter who has two boys, but that is not my line. I am very happy I had no children, with this society of s~~~ we live in I would be in prison, if anyone from the government even questioned my child, much less the evil filthy s~~~ they are doing these days. VERY glad I had no kids. To those of you who have my hat is off to you. How you handle this evil s~~~ must take restraint and courage beyond normal human capacity that MAKES you heroes as far as I’m concerned.

    Philosophy, the female repellent

    #118148
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    Cap285
    Cap285
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    No.

    When I was a teenager in the late 80’s, fat/ugly chicks had zero chance of getting any dates.

    Internet ‘dating’ has given even morbidly obese hogs and hatchet faced wretches access to thirsty men all over the planet. Thus, pushing their egos through the stratosphere.

    All women have a checklist. If you don’t hit every box, you’re out.

    Edit: It is not your fault. Not even close. Women can live in the marriage free hell they created. And you know what’s funny? They’re still not looking in the mirror for the problem.

    Fuck this planet.
    #118155
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    Cap285
    Cap285
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    Thinking about a legal name change, ‘Chad Thunderc~~~’………..Hmmmmm?Could I handle all that attention?

    You would need a T-shirt with a lightning bolt and an arrow below it pointing to your crotch.

    Who is the cat in your avatar? He looks like he doesn’t take any s~~~. From anybody.

    Fuck this planet.
    #118184
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    Megatoad69
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    That is my cat, Fudgy. ‘She’ has an attitude, but loves the hell out of me.

    One thing that is forgotten, A lot of these uglies are F~~~ n’ Chucks, Pump and Dumps.

    Let me make a short story shorter:
    POF
    Woman I was chatting, attractive, almost 40, 2 kids, chiding me saying I was probably like the rest of them, perverts who promise the world and disappear.
    She insisted right away I pay for booze, and the dates.
    That never happened, or the date.

    See, all those guys saw her as a problem, pretend they are interested, get their dicks wet, and split.

    I got lucky once on POF, all these other guys are douchebags that have the car, the money, charisma, etc, but the women are not bagging these dudes.

    Isn’t that funny 🙂

    POF is a waste of my time, too much effort to ‘maybe’ get a date, I only check it once in a while for curiousity sake.
    My brother once caught an STD from one of them, could you imagine the c~~~ fest these women are indulging in?

    It’s just gross!

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #118252
    Sidecar
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    The solution was always oppressive patriarchal customs that bounded the behavior of women (the respectable ones).

    That’s not entirely true.

    What actually happened is women could do as they pleased, but only if they paid for it themselves. If a woman wanted to ride the ancient Roman c~~~ carousel (C~~~ aquaduct? C~~~quaduct?), she was perfectly free to do so, but any children she had were her sole responsibility to feed. That’s not “patriarchy”. It’s common sense.

    These days women are “liberated”. They would like you to think that means they are somehow freed from some mythical “patriarchal” shackles in the past, but that is not the case. What it actually means is they are liberated from any responsibility for paying for their own choices. Women are still free to do as they choose, like always, but now men have to pay for them regardless. Be it through child support, alimony, taxes, or whatever, men have to pay so women can play. That is where, and why, things have taken a turn for the worse, and for the unsustainable, in the past century or so.

    #118256

    Anonymous
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    Internet ‘dating’ has given even morbidly obese hogs and hatchet faced wretches access to thirsty men all over the planet. Thus, pushing their egos through the stratosphere.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the online dating and inflation of female egos. As others have pointed out most women are there only to seek attention and for the off-chance some rich guy is careless enough to let them dig their claws in him. That is not to say these women don*t get men to tingle them. They are the bad boy types who the girl knows isn*t the one for her. Yet, tingles can*t resist. So its the nice get that gets hooked and falls in love with these manipulative predators.

    As the nice guys slowly recede and asshole becomes the new norm, the inflation bubble is going to burst. The warnings of collapse i.e. where the nice guys at is getting more commonplace.

    I got lucky once on POF, all these other guys are douchebags that have the car, the money, charisma, etc, but the women are not bagging these dudes.

    Sorry brother. You got lucky but after the douchebags had their run. Women aren*t bagging them, but these men are bedding them. Always assume contempt underlying a moral decision when a female takes the higher ground. She is just bitter.

    #118271
    Megatoad69
    megatoad69
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    I should correct myself, it’s not so much the men with money and cars, it’s more about the douchebags, these guys that lie and manipulate women, tell them whatever they want to hear, appear to be who they are not, etc.

    And they get laid as a reward.

    Then they demonise all men when they realise they’ve been had, they should blame themselves, they let it happen to themselves.
    Just like KeyMaster said in another post, women look for blame outside of themselves.

    Then there are the honest dudes who when they meet a nice girl, then realise she is damaged goods, she owns a Jr.McDouchebag(s) courtesy of PaPa McDouchebag(s). And what she wants in him is a provider for Jr. and her. because PaPa is busy creating other Jr.s. with other to-be-damaged-goods.
    Then he realises that, if she wasn’t damaged goods, he wouldn’t even get the time of the f~~~ing day from her!

    That’s what I meant to say, I wasn’t caffeinated enough to be writing yet.

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #118273
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    Anonymous
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    I think there’s a number of reasons
    1. Birth control has taken away the primary throttle on women’s promiscuity. Every time they f~~~ a different guy they think they’ve escaped any consequences. Therefore they f~~~ around.
    2. They’re all aware of the consolation prize of being married to the state. It will provide their every need from food to housing. It’s a s~~~ty consolation prize but it lets them avoid the reality of life. They’ll always be cared for. Fact,,,now they don’t need any particular man. Welfare is a now a right. not a helping hand.
    3. The whole hamster media now centres around slut culture. It’s cool to f~~~ whoever they please. The more inappropriate, the higher the prestige. There’s no shame at all. The biggest influence today on hamsters is the Kardashian/Hilton mentality. Both these people “accidentally” released hard core porn videos that sent them to super stardom. In another age it would have destroyed their reputations forever.
    4. The obesity pandemic has caused at least one third, possibly two thirds of all women to be unf~~~able. Anything that isn’t overweight is hit on relentlessly, regardless of it’s looks, personality, work ethics, morals , financial position or mental stability. They get a disproportionate amount of sexual partners and are quite rightly, extremely fussy. Trouble is, they keep the fussy mentality after hitting the wall and price themselves out of the market.

    In many cases, the only requirement men have when they go on a dating site, is that the woman isn’t fat. Nothing more. Zilch.
    Yet, they’ll be shamed for even expecting that.

    #118293
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    Won'tGetFooledAgain
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    Years ago, most women rode the Alpha c~~~ carousel in their 20’s, and once they got into their early 30’s and started to hit the wall they would grab a decent blue pill man for children and resources. All the Alphas cared about was getting a new piece of pussy and the women were very happy with this arrangement until they started to hit the wall and the Alphas moved onto younger pussy. The blue pill men who had spent their 20s being rejected by these women finally believed that being the nice guy had paid off as they had won because they finally got the girl. The blue pill men were led to believe that these women had finally realised they didn’t actually want a bad boy and what they really wanted was a decent man after all. What they hadn’t been told is that these women had chosen them as none of the Alphas were stupid enough to want to marry her, and out of desperation she was trying to grab money and resources before it was too late.

    This situation kind of worked for a while, the blue pill man thought he had finally won the prize and the women would never tell him what the real situation was. The man didn’t understand that the woman had given her best years to the Alphas for free and he was suddenly paying full retail for the few remaining years she had left. Once she had the children it would become a sexless, boring marriage but hey, that is what marriage is all about.

    But then we got no default divorce and government benefits which ment women had to face zero responsibility for their actions as someone else would pickup the tabs So these women who were bored of their blue pill men can divorce them, hop back on the c~~~ carousel and the ex husband will still have to pay for the house and kids. The sluts who get knocked up by Mr Neck Tattoo, no problem the state will pay for your mistake.

    We have now even moved on from this and internet dating and Facebook has ment that even the most overweight and ugly of women will be inundated with attention. I think we have now moved onto a situation where people just have hookups and short term relationships with people before just drifting onto the next person.

    Because of this situation I believe that the douche bag player is becoming the norm and women have actually come to accept this and don’t seem to care. What women don’t understand is that they have now driven the value of pussy down to virtually nothing and it has never been easier for a man to get laid. More and more men are thinking why should I put up with some woman’s bulls~~~ just to get sex when it is little effort to just find the next woman. Women seem happy to give into that tingly feeling and f~~~ these men on a first date while they wait in the hope that a rich man is going to be stupid enough to take them on.

    The marriage rate is going down year on year and when women ask where have all the decent men gone, what they really mean is where have all the gullible blue pill men with resources gone. More and more of them are discovering that marriage is a crap deal for men, and with the value of pussy at near zero they are better off just moving from one woman to another when they get bored are can’t be bothered putting up with her bulls~~~ anymore.

    For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

    #118367
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    Ancientwisdom
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    But today I was wondering, how the hell did my father, his father, and his father etc. continue my line for so damn long considering how TERRIBLE and how HARD it is to find even a REMOTELY DECENT woman in today’s world?

    Is it a generational thing? Or is it me? It is hard not to question myself sometimes

    Dude, you are NOT alone in this line of thought. I come from a long line of happy marriages without divorce on both of my parents side. I am also the LAST male to carry on my fathers name. So theres THAT burden of resoinsibility.

    Anyone on here who says its “always been like this” is NOT taking an honest survey of our society. Have women ALWAYS possesed the ability to behave as crassly and immoral as they do today? Sure. But have they been not only ABLE to get away with it, but furthermore CELEBRATED by society for doing it? NO!

    Look at the change in just the past 50 years among womens behavior, our laws, divorce rates and what is “accepted” speach and what isnt.

    To show an even further contrast women were STONED TO DEATH for having an affair 2,000 years ago. I obviously dont condone or approve of that, but guys saying “Its always been this way NAWALT bro!” Either arent being intelectually honest, dont care to think about it, or are just plain stupid.

    It hasnt before been “normal” let alone celebrated to becom rich and famous by showing the world a video of yourself having sex, a la Kim Kardashian. It wasnt “normal” to dress like a whore 50 years ago, have thousands of c~~~ in you, cry about false rape all while dressing, acting like a slut and demanding more and more rights then initiate a divorce so you can bleed a man of his money then go f~~~ more men all while buying fake t~~~, fake tan, and being told by society your so “strong”. And lets not forget having hundreds of c~~~ picks sent to them in private with noone else knowing via tinder and online dating. All the while their ego os boosted from guys just wanting to get their dick wet and their STANDARDS grow higher with each “like” or “match” they get.

    You guys saying its always been this way need to wake up.

    Resident cynic.

    #118391
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    Pharmer
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    ….When they make money at their ‘career’ they don’t date down, even though they are ‘independent’
    The media has told them all this is out there for them, they just have to hold out for a prince to make them feel like the princess’s they are…

    Oh fuk yes. This very bulls~~~ ran in the news here a while back. How there is a ‘educated man drought’ Not enough well educated guys for all the womenz fresh out of university, or with their wonderful empowering careers.
    I realy hope some of them read this. I have 2 points to make here.

    1) f~~~ you very much. For all those years male education and academic achievement was ahead of females, did you ever hear a man bleat about how he couldn’t find an educated girl? No. He Loved her for who she was (god forbid – but it worked better in the old days) not for the diploma hanging on her wall. And they both realised the relationship was give and take. Sure she may not go on to be a general surgeon or hot shot lawyer but she played her part in the home and the relationship and contributed in other ways. Wich society now tells women is not good enough. Leave housework to the men and have a career, in fact have kids and a career. Now just ditch the husband and you’re the perfect modern woman.

    2) Trust me ladies we have found the best education we could possibly get right here. That’s the reason you won’t find any of us out there putting the loaded gun of a ‘formal relationship’ into our mouths and waiting to see if you pull the trigger. Fuk you so very very much. *fimly upheld middle finger*

    Never fuck a crazy chick.

    #118492
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    Qcummer
    Qcummer
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    I am a good looking intelligent man, who is also decent. Apparently, the latter quality is a bad one for women nowadays (along with not being rich). Currently I am in my late 30’s with absolutely no prospects or hope/desire to EVER find or marry one of these beasts with breasts. But today I was wondering, how the hell did my father, his father, and his father etc. continue my line for so damn long considering how TERRIBLE and how HARD it is to find even a REMOTELY DECENT woman in today’s world?
    Is it a generational thing? Or is it me? It is hard not to question myself sometimes. I inherited my family line’s nice looks and intelligence, yet it seems impossible for me to find a woman that I could even consider going out with let alone marry and have kids with! I truly believe the line will end with me and sometimes I feel s~~~ty about it, because at times I am not totally opposed to the whole family thing IF I could ever find a decent woman. But I just don’t see any!!!
    Is this it? Will the line end with me? Is it me? Is it this generation? Please somebody help me to understand: Why me? For hundreds and hundreds of years my family line kept producing offspring, but it’s going to end with me. Why? Is it my fault? Or is it the time we are living in which is slowly killing off men’s ability to marry and have kids? Help me understand!

    I have the same type of family tree, but it stops in the last few decades. There’s Nature and Nurture. The early stages of child development are paramount. Men and Women will have the same Nature, but the Nurture has changed. This modern culture is unlike anything in human history. More people, especially women, are living alone now than ever before. Also, people do what they can get away with…

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