Wells Fargo in trouble again…

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    Wells Fargo & Co.’s troubles continue to mount, with a bevvy of new disclosures Friday: The bank may have created more unauthorized accounts than first thought, it is the subject of a new federal inquiry and it could face $1.3 billion more in legal costs than previously estimated.

    In its latest quarterly filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the San Francisco bank acknowledged that a review of accounts created as far back as 2009 “may lead to a significant increase in the identified number of potentially unauthorized accounts.”

    The bank’s only estimate of the number of accounts that may have been created without customers’ consent is 2.1 million, a number released last September when Wells Fargo agreed to pay $185 million to regulators over the practice.

    But that number was based on a review of accounts created between mid-2011 and mid-2015, and the bank had pledged to expand that review to go back to 2009 and forward to mid-2016. That review is now wrapping up, prompting the announcement that the number of potentially unauthorized accounts may grow.

    The bank this spring acknowledged that unauthorized accounts may have been created as long ago as 2002, but it is not conducting an active inquiry that goes back that far. However, attorneys who negotiated a $142-million class-action settlement with the bank over the practice estimated several months ago that the total number of unauthorized accounts created over the past 15 years may be more like 3.5 million.
    New York regulator investigating Wells Fargo auto insurance policies

    The bank said in its filing that it does not expect any added cost of refunds or other remediation will have a significant impact on the company’s bottom line. The review is expected to be completed by the end of next month.

    Even so, the bank said it was increasing its potential losses related to various legal proceedings and investigations to $3.3 billion — up from $2 billion in its last quarterly filing.

    On a conference call with investors last month, Wells Fargo Chief Financial Officer John Shrewsberry said the bank was increasing the figure because of a “variety of matters,” including an ongoing investigation by the Department of Justice and several state agencies into mortgage practices.

    The bank on Friday put one legal matter to rest, announcing a $108-million payment to the federal government to settle decade-old allegations that it charged improper fees on home loans to veterans — and improperly collected government payments when some of those loans went bad.
    Wells Fargo charged customers for unneeded auto insurance — then repossessed their cars

    The deal settles a lawsuit first brought against Wells Fargo and other big banks in 2006 by a pair of mortgage brokers in Atlanta. Most other lenders, including JPMorgan Chase, Countrywide and Citi settled in 2012.

    “Wells Fargo decided to mount a ‘Stalingrad defense,’ denying the undeniable, and fought for almost five years after the other banks settled,” said James Butler, one of the attorneys for the mortgage brokers.

    Butler’s clients alleged that Wells Fargo charged improper fees to veterans who took out government-backed mortgage refinancing loans. Those fees should have nullified the government guarantee behind the loans, but the bank still collected guarantee payments on loans that went bad, the brokers claimed.

    Wells Fargo did not admit to any of the allegations. In a statement announcing the deal, Wells Fargo Chief Executive Tim Sloan noted the bank previously settled a suit brought by veterans, agreeing to compensate them for any improper fees they may have paid.

    “Settling this longstanding lawsuit allows us to put the matter behind us and continue to focus on serving customers and rebuilding trust with our stakeholders,” Sloan said in Friday’s statement.

    The company also acknowledged Friday that it is under investigation by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau over allegations that it improperly charged mortgage borrowers for fees that the bank should have covered.

    Reports surfaced early this year that the bank, and offices in Southern California in particular, would force borrowers to pay fees associated with delays in mortgage applications, even when the delays were the bank’s fault. Last month, a former mortgage banker in Beverly Hills sued the bank, saying he was fired for reporting that practice.

    Bank spokesman Kurt Schroeder said the bank is reviewing its practices related to those fees, called rate-lock extension fees.

    Wells Fargo shares fell 1% to close at $52.84 Friday. Bank stocks generally were higher for the day, with the benchmark KBW-Nasdaq bank index climbing 1%.

    I’ve dealt with Wells before. Not a fan. I wasn’t a fan of the fact Wells Fargo was one of the financial backers that was involved in taking land from the Indians over the Dakota Access Pipeline. Wells’ history is well connected to shady practices, and given their past with the financial crisis of 2008, I’m not entirely surprised this kind of stuff is happening. They already have a class action suit over the auto insurance thing happening, and there was the issue of Wells Fargo sticking mortgage borrowers with extra fees. I’d recommend avoiding Wells Fargo personally.

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    #559246
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    I’ve dealt with Wells before. Not a fan.

    Well aren’t you polite.

    I f~~~ing HATE Wells Fargo. HATE with a capital 8.

    I walked into a branch once asking for clarification on something important, and the f~~~ing “manager” ( a fat woman ) walks up to the BUSINESS window with her finger up and when I presented her with piece of paper, before she even said “good morning sir”, she says . . .

    “I’m not gonna lie. My eyes are bad. Put your PIN in the machine.”

    I said “I beg your pardon? What you mean you’re “not gonna lie”??? I already assume “you’re not gonna lie”, and if your eyes are bad, can I speak to someone ELSE who’s eyes are better?? We’re talking about my money here.”

    She looked at me like she wanted to murder. Like I was somehow unreasonable.
    Not my f~~~ing problem.

    I complained about her too. Don’t EVER greet a customer at your bank with “I’m not gonna lie”. Wells Fargo must be out of their f~~~ing minds. It’s “good morning sir, how may I be of assistance to you?”.

    C~~~s.

    Thanks, Rule. This talk helped.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #559289
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    IRuleMe
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    I’ve dealt with Wells before. Not a fan.

    Well aren’t you polite.

    I f~~~ing HATE Wells Fargo. HATE with a capital 8.

    I walked into a branch once asking for clarification on something important, and the f~~~ing “manager” ( a fat woman ) walks up to the BUSINESS window with her finger up and when I presented her with piece of paper, before she even said “good morning sir”, she says . . .

    “I’m not gonna lie. My eyes are bad. Put your PIN in the machine.”

    I said “I beg your pardon? What you mean you’re “not gonna lie”??? I already assume “you’re not gonna lie”, and if your eyes are bad, can I speak to someone ELSE who’s eyes are better?? We’re talking about my money here.”

    She looked at me like she wanted to murder. Like I was somehow unreasonable.
    Not my f~~~ing problem.

    I complained about her too. Don’t EVER greet a customer at your bank with “I’m not gonna lie”. Wells Fargo must be out of their f~~~ing minds. It’s “good morning sir, how may I be of assistance to you?”.

    C~~~s.

    Thanks, Rule. This talk helped.

    HAHAHA

    I must confess I’ve had better customer service than that, but I’ve had to deal with having to call the customer support because they shut my card off for purchasing (it only happens when I purchase from this one website). And I’m not a fan of the whole “we take money out of your checking to put it in your savings” s~~~. Bank of America does the same s~~~. They claim it’s to encourage you to save, but the reality is, it’s a way for them to get overdraft fees. I’ve never liked banks. But I deal with them because I have to.

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    Damn, Wells Fargo is always in some s~~~.

    I like Goldman Sachs better. They have better high yield savings accounts.

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    DarkRyu
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    You can’t trust ANY bank, but Wells Fargo offers the best business services for the best prices, so that’s why I stay with them. If I didn’t run a business, I’d definitely be banking elsewhere.

    #559599
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    “we take money out of your checking to put it in your savings” s~~~. Bank of America does the same s~~~.

    WTF??? They transfer your funds around without your permission???
    I’d call that fraud right off the f~~~ing bat!

    Dudes. Put your money in a credit union.
    They are customer-owned and they don’t play these con-man games with their customers’ money.

    #563007
    Othulian
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    You can’t trust ANY bank, but Wells Fargo offers the best business services for the best prices, so that’s why I stay with them. If I didn’t run a business, I’d definitely be banking elsewhere.

    I cant complain. Have them for both myself and for my company. Never had any issues. Don’t expect too. Been with them for years.

    If a man does his best, what else is there? -George S. Patton

    #563017
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    Russky
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    WF ATMs are the best of the best. You can deposit checks, cash, choose denominations withdrawing, even buy stamps and withdraw money without a card using a code sent to your phone

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

    #563036
    Othulian
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    WF ATMs are the best of the best. You can deposit checks, cash, choose denominations withdrawing, even buy stamps and withdraw money without a card using a code sent to your phone

    Their app rocks too. Lets you pay bills, transfer money, get set up with CD’s etc… easy peasy lemon squeezy.

    If a man does his best, what else is there? -George S. Patton

    #563039
    Russky
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    yup! I even pay my child support using WF send money function. And it’s free.

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

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