"We, the few"…

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

“We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day”.
William Shakespeare | Henry V

Brothers… Never in my life that words from Shakespeare made so much sense as they do now.

We, here, are indeed the few, but I hope that one day we will be the many. So many, that we will rise in the middle of the crowd and that everyone will hear our voice, once and for all.

Every moment I get back here, I learn something that adds a great value to my life, I see more things I was blind to see, and learn the gems I needed so much to learn. Every moment here is like water for a thirsty man.

“We few, we happy few, we band of brothers… For he today that shed his blood with my shall be my brother.”

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Everything seems more life-sized than normal today, and the air is perfumed with justice. Comradery defines America, as tears of relief roll down our cheeks. The sky is bluer, the grass is greener and people are smiling on the streets. We fought, we journeyed , we won.

We are legion … we are many

[RoyDalParticipant]

One of my favorite movie versions of one of my favorite plays.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

RoyDal wrote:

One of my favorite movie versions of one of my favorite plays.

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F~~~ING. MASTERPIECE.

Roy, thank you for this movie version. I was sure that the words of Shakespeare written on plain white paper would never have a proper interpreter, but I am really glad that I am indeed wrong!

Thank you, brother!

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[WallyParticipant]

RoyDal, when I saw the title of this post, the Kenneth Branugh speech was what I thought of too.  Thanks for finding it.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

I dunno.

The thing is, he was trying to convince them to go out and get themselves maimed and killed early in the morning on some godforsaken muddy s~~~hole battlefield, all so HE could be king.

Henry V doesn’t sound like a king so much as he sounds like one of those f~~~ing Kardassian bitches: “I’m famous so you should be honored to be here with me.”

F~~~ that.

Dark Kenshi wrote:

For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:

… but not so close a brother that I’m going to share MY castle or MY crown. And he’ll still have to pay me taxes. And fight in any other silly ass war I hope to benefit from.

And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap

Not MGTOW. Any MGHOW a-bed will be thinking about bacon and eggs or flapjacks for breakfast. And end up deciding to have both. Because why the f~~~ not?

MGHOW: What’s in it for me?
Henry V: You’ll get to say you were here with me. Assuming you live.
MGHOW: No, seriously Hank, WHAT’S IN IT FOR ME?

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

sidecar wrote:

I dunno. The thing is, he was trying to convince them to go out and get themselves maimed and killed early in the morning on some godforsaken muddy s~~~hole battlefield, all so HE could be king. Henry V doesn’t sound like a king so much as he sounds like one of those f~~~ing Kardassian bitches: “I’m famous so you should be honored to be here with me.” F~~~ that.

DarkKenshi wrote:

For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition:

… but not so close a brother that I’m going to share MY castle or MY crown. And he’ll still have to pay me taxes. And fight in any other silly ass war I hope to benefit from.

And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap

Not MGTOW. Any MGHOW a-bed will be thinking about bacon and eggs or flapjacks for breakfast. And end up deciding to have both. Because why the f~~~ not? MGHOW: What’s in it for me? Henry V: You’ll get to say you were here with me. Assuming you live. MGHOW: No, seriously Hank, WHAT’S IN IT FOR ME?

 

Good points, Side…

But, the way I view this quote, it was more that I feel that we MGTOW are a band of brothers, who fight side by side, each day in order to conquer not only ourselves, but our environment also.

That we, as brothers who went through the same hell, that we are not only fighting for ourselves, but that we are fighting indeed for the next generation of men, to be more free, to have more respect from a world that only mocks us right now.

And perharps, if we do our duties right and perform as great as each one of us expects to act, then they would probably live without feminsm, and perhaps with women with better morals and standards.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Dark Kenshi wrote:

it was more that I feel that we MGTOW are a band of brothers,

I totally get the Band of Brothers aspect, and that part is good and true, because all men truly are brothers (and if you take a close look at certain families I’m sure you’ll note the similarity). I just think the overall context here stinks, because it’s taking a noble concept and manipulating it for personal gain.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Here! Here!

 

Cheers!

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

sidecar wrote:

DarkKenshi wrote:

it was more that I feel that we MGTOW are a band of brothers,

I totally get the Band of Brothers aspect, and that part is good and true, because all men truly are brothers (and if you take a close look at certain families I’m sure you’ll note the similarity). I just think the overall context here stinks, because it’s taking a noble concept and manipulating it for personal gain.

You are right, my brother… I need to take a look at the context too, in order to get a better reference.

Henry V indeed used those man for his own personal gain.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Dark Kenshi wrote:

You are right, my brother… I need to take a look at the context too, in order to get a better reference.

Henry V indeed used those man for his own personal gain.

Yeah, Bill Shakespeare was a hell of a writer, and definitely understood men.

But Henry V was a c~~~.

I believe the actual St. Crispin’s day speech was basically Henry bragging about how the French throne should really be his and also: “You troops should all fight for me because I heard those French knights over there said bad things about you.” There was nothing about being brothers or any of that, just greedy arsehole king babble.

[LupusParticipant 214]

But for the men below Henry, they did believe there to be that brotherhood.

And we can learn from that, a common goal, our freedom. Just ignore the leadership part 🙂

 

 

 

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[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Good point, Lupus.

I tend to think that our brotherhood had for the most part already eliminated the “leadership” part, because whe have no “leaders” (should be read ‘kings’ or ‘bosses’) as we have no hierarchy, and that I think it is our very best defense and our strenght.

We have no superior numbers, we only have the certainty that the brother next to us will fight for us when the t~~~s come.

To all of us, it is for freedom, and for many of us, it is not only about our own freedom, but it is about the freedom for our brothers too.

We already share the common goal, but sure, there is many things that we may learn from that…

Thank you for the tip, brother!

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[MendokusaiParticipant 256]

One thing Henry did right IMO was disguise himself so he could be around his troops on the eve of battle to get a feeling of them,just like at work when I act PC to keep my job and listen to all the horses~~~ from womin and their males slaves.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, Brothers.

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Mendokusai wrote:

One thing Henry did right IMO was disguise himself so he could be around his troops on the eve of battle to get a feeling of them,

That was also from Bill Shakespeare, not the real Henry V.

While we’re on the subject of Bands of Brothers’ there’s an excellent comic by Warren Ellis on the battle of Crecy, which happened about 70 years before Agincourt, that gives a pretty good explanation of the common soldiery’s opinion of the battle and why there were there. The thing about Crecy and Agincourt was that most of Edward III and Henry V’s armies were common men, not highborn nobles. And it was them, the common men with their pointy sticks and bows, who won the day, not the kings and nobles in their expensive shiny armor.

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