Watching mates turn into cucks is heartbreaking

[Just MikeParticipant 393]

Watching mates give up their sovereignty for pussy is so f~~~ing heartbreaking it feels like getting cut by a knife; what I’ve got right now is anger, disgust, disappointment and bewilderment. It makes me feel very human, and good to experience heartfeltly but shocking to watch a good mate absolutely cave in and knowingly blue pill himself.

My best mate should have known better; we were the stalwarts of singledom and logical thinking until he started seeing a woman four or five months ago. Slowly but surely the weeknight drinks have stopped, first from his end and then from mine because I got sick and f~~~ing tired of him ‘being busy’ all the time. Now I don’t catch up with my mate; I catch up with my mate and his missus because they may as well be joined at the hip and being third wheel to that bulls~~~ is a harrowing experience. Pet names. Constant sexual innuendo between each other. Watching him choke back what used to be very good opinions from a very honest person. Sometimes I can see the compromise happening in his head right then and there. It’s f~~~ing sickening. Group logic doesn’t even apply.

What gets me is the lack on control. That s~~~ disappears when there’s a bit of pussy involved; in this case at least. Sovereignty, to me, should be maintained at all times but it’s like my mate, and other guys like this, are *actively looking to give up their power and best interest*. I used to think that men having their choices removed, being capped by the law was all forced upon them, like a situation they ‘found’ themselves in against their will. I was all fire and brimstone about spouting off against it and I had a lot of sympathy for guys who were in that situation. Boy have my eyes been opened watching this one unfold. These guys know the dangers of playing with this sort of fire and *they still do it anyway*. They make a choice against logic with such abandon it makes my head spin. It wasn’t even gradual; this guy who at least understood the basic tenets of MGTOW and that relationships are a pretty s~~~ deal for men just f~~~ing flipped one day. A part of my best mate disappeared for the worst. He actually made that choice and I hate to think that he was full of s~~~ this whole time and was just waiting for an opportunity to jump.

I want to backhand him something cruel but I think it’s now beyond the point where it’ll make a difference. He’s too invested and I don’t really want to find out the hard way whether he’ll stand by a good mate or take her side because that really has the potential to cut me. The correct choice should be clear but evidence and behaviour suggests he’s already deprioritised all other time in favour of her. If he can’t even maintain a sense of order over himself in lieu of giving that over to her I don’t think mates stand a chance.

There’s a lot more I could say on the topic but my brain is scrambled. Why do guys do this? Sure, the emotion must be pretty strong to flip the switch so erratically but for f~~~s sake, if you’re going to dip your toe in the boiling water of a relationship you damn well better make sure you’ve got your game together to protect yourself. This guy doesn’t and it worries me. I may have to watch a good mate change and slowly get roasted alive.

Society: I refuse your stick and carrot. If you try to beat or shame me you'd better take me down first time. If I want smoke blown up my ass I'll buy a cigar and a length of hose.

[Will RobinsonParticipant 3479]

Women are master manipulators. They are predators.

They take advantage of the lizard brain and rely on the hot system to manipulate. The hot system doesn’t think logically. That’s why women create drama and conflict. To activate the hot system and manipulate.

The cold system is the rational, reflective thinking mind. I shut down the lizard brain, by thinking of women with green slime oozing from their stinky diseased holes, swarming with anal lice. I avoid their conflict and drama too.

Your friend, unfortunately, has not yet learned to master the lizard brain. He’s being manipulated. Is it his fault of the black widow predator that’s manipulating him and waiting to eat him after she gets what she wants?

May you walk in peace and happiness, May you and all mgtow, near and far walk in peace and happiness.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

1) there is also jealousy in you, but that is normal.

2) it is your “friend” what ever the f~~~ that means, not your lover, learn to be alone.

3) if he traded his life for pussy HE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, he wold throw you under a buss for a piece of ass, SNAP OUT OF IT.

4) people is just people, they come and go, some people you know just die, others go away and you lose touch with them, others become enemies even, AT THE END WE ALL DIE ALONE.

welcome to MGTOW f~~~er.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

I have no sympathy. Hell, gave up contact with my brother after he got engaged to the c~~~ he found. He actually had the fortitude to ask me if I’d donate sperm since he had a vasectomy already after 2 kids 3 months apart lol.
I’m vasectomized now. NO c~~~ will be allowed to compromise my genetic material.

No Wife - No Strife

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

There’s NOTHING YOU CAN DO, but REJOICE in the Fact That It’s NOT YOU !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 38]

Part of the red pill is accepting reality, in this case your ‘mate’ is a cuck. Feed him a s~~~ load of red pills, you might as well as he’s gone already. Hopefully they won’t last and he’ll end up properly red pilled.

[Anonymous 12]

Damn, Carnage!
that is some tough love.
but accurate.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

Most all of us where blue pill at some point in our early male adulthood. I was…… and I try to not be too judgmental of those men still captured.

Awareness comes when it does.

Years of constant brainwashing and early childhood indoctrination, make a clear view difficult, and it sometimes requires a steady application of pain and frustration to shatter those illusions.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[ApexScorpionParticipant 602]

The red pill will eventually effect your views in not only women, but men as well, including your “friends”.

He thinks his way will make him happy. Telling him the opposite will waste your energy and cause more friction. You cannot make anyone change, neither should you direct anyone how to live their lives.

Learn to lose, but don’t be a sore loser. We’ve all lost a “friend” or family with this awareness. We are the minority, and we will stay that way.

Losing people you care about is another obstruction life gives you. Learn how to maneuver.

He made his bed. All you can do is let him sleep in it.

You’ll never be chosen over pussy, unless a man has it in him already by his own volition.

[Anonymous 18]

I think down the road it will be good for your friend.

The red pills help a man see what women covertly do under the guise of plausible deniability. But he is blinded by pussy.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Let him get f~~~ed over. He volunteered. Least you can do is experience blue pilled f~~~ery by proxy. Without having to pay a dime of your emotional investment to it.

It is selfish. Selfish is good.

Again he volunteered for it.

[OldBillParticipant]

Just Mike wrote:

Watching mates give up their sovereignty for pussy is so f~~~ing heartbreaking…

An old member here known as Stealth had a perfect label for your ex-friend’s condition: C~~~ Struck. Being c~~~ struck resembles another, more well known, psychological condition; the Stockholm syndrome.

He’s traded in his life, his friends, and his self respect for a meat hole. Some day in the future he may realize that, but there’s no chance of him doing so now. It’s going to take a very sharp shock to wake him up. The odds are she’ll provide the shock, but not after she’s destroyed him.

Carnage is right. Your friendship is dead. You can either keep visiting the corpse or bury it.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant 512]

I’m in the process of cutting off anyone in my life who spouts crap I don’t want to hear. Really is the best way. Because sooner or later, one or both of you will have enough, and there’ll be a big drama and waste of time and energy.

[Anonymous 9]

She’s probably talking all kinds of s~~~ about you to your friend, just to turn you against each other.

If not yet, then later. If she thinks you are a threat, it will surely happen.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

I have put up numerous threads about this type of thing

f~~~ing annoying when good friends disappear but the first job of a GF is to remove his friends and become the only person in his life…it is like they all get secret training at birth because they are very good at it and it always works

[AttonParticipant]

He has doomed himself to a scam.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[SimpleLifeParticipant 439]

It sure is a depressing thing to view, OP. They become a shell of their former selves. They exchange much of what they used to enjoy for the brief euphoria at the beginning of a relationship. After that initial fun part of a relationship, a person ends up just internally justifying why they stay in this difficult situation.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

It’s happened to most of us. F~~~ them having no decent male friends left when pumpkin goes off with Chad.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[Diamond DogParticipant 142]

Just Mike wrote:

Sovereignty, to me, should be maintained at all times but it’s like my mate, and other guys like this, are *actively looking to give up their power and best interest*.

I have a friend who is similar but not exactly the same. He is Blue pilled as can be and more recently he never stays single for long. He’s not married yet and his previous girlfriend he almost married. When I came to the realization that I was Mgtow, s~~~ like men throwing away their freedom for pussy started to sicken me. At this point I have learned to accept other people’s decisions.

3) if he traded his life for pussy HE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, he wold throw you under a buss for a piece of ass, SNAP OUT OF IT.[/quote]

Carnage has a point here, you may care about your friend but realize that all friendships have a finite time period. Friends get into disagreements, become too different so they can’t find common ground anymore, or take the last Kit Kat from the fridge. You must always have the idea that no matter how strong the friendship is, eventually it will come to an end.

On Carnage’s third point he is also correct, your friend might throw you under the bus. I always have that thought with the friend I mentioned above. One of the reasons I think our friendship has not fallen apart is that we live more than 1000 miles apart. I haven’t seen him with a girlfriend since we were in school. I usually stay quiet about his girlfriend. I’m also cautious about him throwing me under the bus in favor of his girlfriend. I give him the benefit of the doubt and will continue to do so until he does something to screw me over. If he ends up marrying his current girlfriend I’ll know that would be the beginning of the end of the friendship. Ultimately it’s up to you how you want to proceed.

Don't be a "provider" unless you are providing for yourself.

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