Watching a close friend go down a dark path…

[MTGMGTOWParticipant 235]

One of my closest friends has always been pretty flaky when it comes to following through with plans with myself and our other friends. But recently it has gotten much worse. He’s just gotten involved with this bitch at his college and now he rarely says he’ll do anything with us anymore and when he does he just doesn’t show up without saying a word. In a few weeks I’m going out and partying with all of my friends for my birthday and I’m ready for him to not even pretend to be interested in showing up.

I met this woman once. She’s somewhat attractive. She plays the chameleon game very well. Before I found the red pill I would have thought she was nice and charming. The process to manipulate my friend into making her the center of his life has already begun. It’s a road of destruction that I travelled in my late teens and first couple years of my twenties. This is going to hit him very hard, very suddenly.

There is a much larger problem with this situation, though. I am attending the same college this August and we already have plans to rent an apartment together. So not only will I have to live with this guy who is abandoning all of his friends, including me, for a meat hole, but said meat hole will probably be hanging around the apartment constantly. I’m in for a rough year. I don’t know what to do.

I know that when I went through my blue pill phase, nobody could convince me of anything. The chemical addiction of what people consider love is extremely potent. I doubt he would listen to me if I tried to get through to him. Do I try to get him to come to his senses before move-in day? Do I collect all our other friends, who also see this problem, to have some sort of intervention for him? Do I just shut up and deal with it?

I've had to learn lessons the hard way more times than I should. I've been very fortunate to find MGTOW when I did. Swallowing the Red Pill saved my future.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Get a new apartment with someone else…You are going to get kicked out of that deal because c~~~ will move in with your friend…Its just the way it is…Better you make plans now than be involved in the s~~~storm with them…

Your education is more important and the drama they are going to bring constantly while living with them can seriously affect your studies…Good luck brother…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[OldBillParticipant]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

I am attending the same college this August and we already have plans to rent an apartment together.

You need to drop those plans now. It doesn’t matter if you don’t have other housing lined up, you’ve got months to do that. You need to get out of any verbal agreement with your ex-friend before deposits are made, papers are signed, and all the rest.

Get out now. The sooner the better.

Edit: Don’t worry about explaining your decision to your friend. He won’t understand and she won’t let him. Besides, she’s going to work at driving away all his friends so just consider yourself the first to go.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

We cant do anything for our friend but to be there when he gets cast out…Only then would be open to the red pills and be able to make sense of everything that happened to him…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[Buller100Participant 2189]

I would not say anything , keep the apartment with him … watch it unfold there may be a chance to help him later on.

We all have to walk our own paths …

Whilst he is a good friend , look how is behaving friends are not all they are cracked up to be most times.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Good friend or not. Get out of the apartment deal. Its not worth your troubles man.

He’s going to need a place to crash after he crashes and burns. That’s they best thing you could do.

You already know s~~~ is going down. Don’t go walking into a minefield.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

Invite him to the party.
If he blows it off, that is your justification to blow off the apartment arrangement.
If he balks or complains, this is your opportunity to explain that a pussy-whipped room mate that has no interest in your friendship is not how you want to go through school, so he f~~~ed himself over.

A tiny red pill for him to taste.

If he shows at your party, use that opportunity to address his woman problem and base your decision on his behavior that night and let him know if you are going to blow off the apartment arrangement.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

Do. Not. Move. In. With. Him.

Because you will be living with HER!

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

One of my closest friends has always been pretty flaky when it comes to following through with plans with myself and our other friends. But recently it has gotten much worse. He’s just gotten involved with this bitch at his college and now he rarely says he’ll do anything with us anymore and when he does he just doesn’t show up without saying a word. In a few weeks I’m going out and partying with all of my friends for my birthday and I’m ready for him to not even pretend to be interested in showing up.

I met this woman once. She’s somewhat attractive. She plays the chameleon game very well. Before I found the red pill I would have thought she was nice and charming. The process to manipulate my friend into making her the center of his life has already begun. It’s a road of destruction that I travelled in my late teens and first couple years of my twenties. This is going to hit him very hard, very suddenly.

There is a much larger problem with this situation, though. I am attending the same college this August and we already have plans to rent an apartment together. So not only will I have to live with this guy who is abandoning all of his friends, including me, for a meat hole, but said meat hole will probably be hanging around the apartment constantly. I’m in for a rough year. I don’t know what to do.

I know that when I went through my blue pill phase, nobody could convince me of anything. The chemical addiction of what people consider love is extremely potent. I doubt he would listen to me if I tried to get through to him. Do I try to get him to come to his senses before move-in day? Do I collect all our other friends, who also see this problem, to have some sort of intervention for him? Do I just shut up and deal with it?

You absolutely cannot stay in that apartment with him and the woman. Dont even want to hear any objections, you cannot put yourself in this scenario under any circumstances.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

This one is a no-brainer, Kimosabe. Don’t do it! Your your life would almost immediately become hell and it’s not necessary to go down that road unless you jist like punishment.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[Anonymous 42]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

So not only will I have to live with this guy who is abandoning all of his friends, including me, for a meat hole, but said meat hole will probably be hanging around the apartment constantly. I’m in for a rough year. I don’t know what to do.

The apartment will become a head f~~~ery mill! Lots of f~~~ing, and on your head! Hopefully he’ll burnout or she’ll grow tired of him wrapped around her little finger then likely spread her legs for you!

I see this going several different ways! NONE OF THEM BENEFITING YOU!

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

Somebody is going to get *f~~~ed*! Don’t let it be you…she will probably start coming on to you to make him jealous at some point. Or if she finds he is not what she wants, she will turn to his friends to f~~~ him up…I see terrible things coming out of this situation! Walk away…

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

OK, so you find a new roommate. He will eventually come to the same fate and you’ll be dealing with someone you barely know going through the exact same s~~~. Personally, I’d rather be room mates with a friend going through it than someone I barely know.

You are red pill living inside the matrix. Almost everyone you come in contact with won’t understand.

I would say option one would be to find a situation where you don’t need a room mate. That may be impossible but it’s the best option. When it comes to having a room mate, I’d still pick my friend. Because no matter what, your room mate will eventually bring in a girlfriend that will try to run your home. It’s just part of the education my friend. You can’t avoid every crappy situation, but you are better prepared to deal with it than most.

Red pill knowledge is something that has to be applied to life every once in a while. Just remember you’ve got 30,000 men behind you.

Order the good wine

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Well, if she moved in, she might be a slut. Maybe you can f~~~ her, too?

Big red pill moment when he comes home to f~~~ her and finds her already wet. Of course most guys will blame the other guy instead of the “innocent” meat hole.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 3]

Most everyone has said don’t make the apartment arrangements, but if you do I think Ranger has nailed it. She will start tootsieing around half naked & pretty soon she’ll end f~~~ing you & that will be a big red pill for you buddy & very hard to swallow.
Optimal choice is find a way to live on your own.
Don’t blow your education behind trying to save someone.
Good luck. I hope you continue to post. It has the sound of a good red pill journey out of the matrix

[MTGMGTOWParticipant 235]

The other problem with the situation is… The contract HAS already been signed. That happened before he got involved with his female master. One friend of mine told me that his roommate in college had his girlfriend move in and that he wasn’t kicked out. He said that the whole arrangement wasn’t even that obnoxious. But that’s probably not how the vast majority of those situations unfold.

The rent for the apartment is very cheap, and with splitting it we would each be paying less than $400 per month. It also comes fully furnished, and this is not the case for any other building in the area. Every other listing is over $1k per month, does not come with furniture, and is much further from campus. I can cover my part of the rent for a year just by saving money from my current job. If I had to dorm it would be around $10k for the year and I’d have to borrow much more money.

As long as I don’t get kicked out, it might be worth it to just tough it out and live in my own world as much as I possibly can. If I have to, I’ll just put my headphones on and tune everything out whenever I’m at the apartment. Short-term irritation doesn’t seem as bad when my other options leave me paying off debt for much longer after my graduation.

I've had to learn lessons the hard way more times than I should. I've been very fortunate to find MGTOW when I did. Swallowing the Red Pill saved my future.

[Diamond DogParticipant 142]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

I know that when I went through my blue pill phase, nobody could convince me of anything. The chemical addiction of what people consider love is extremely potent. I doubt he would listen to me if I tried to get through to him. Do I try to get him to come to his senses before move-in day? Do I collect all our other friends, who also see this problem, to have some sort of intervention for him? Do I just shut up and deal with it?

I don’t think you friend will listen to reason. Once he has those rose tinted glasses on, it could be years until he takes them off. I would not move in with him and find another roommate.

Don't be a "provider" unless you are providing for yourself.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Check the contract or lease. Some leases do not allow another non-signer to move in without changing the terms and re-signing.

[OldBillParticipant]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

The other problem with the situation is… The contract HAS already been signed.

Then, as Badger already suggested, check the lease. I live near a state university and the landlords here are very careful about limiting occupancy. If the lease says two, it means two and not two plus their live-in f~~~ buddies, their best friends, and Cousin Jared from Florida who is just going to be staying a few days I promise.

This isn’t a case where you can tough it out. You’re attending school and taking classes. You need to study and sleep on a regular schedule. The drama and horrors that c~~~ will bring into your life will adversely effect your performance in school. Your friend getting laid is not worth your GPA.

Along with effecting your schoolwork, she will cause problems with your neighbors, your landlord, and quite possibly the cops. Your name is on that lease meaning you’re responsible for anything going down in that apartment. Just as with your GPA, you don’t want to risk your name and credit rating so your idiot friend can get laid.

If the lease doesn’t have an occupancy limit, you’ll need to get out it. If you can find someone to take over your end, but don’t move in with your friend and that c~~~.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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