Wasting my companies time – but not mine

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

So, just a bunch of randomness here… was doing a little introspection this morning and essentially two months ago I checked out of my job. I still show up every day, do a little work, go home or to the second job, but I’ve essentially checked out. I have been seriously looking for a job and that takes probably 20-30% of each day, and then I spend probably 20% of each day on MGTOW reading or Reddit or RationalMale. Though I can’t watch the YouTube videos because they are blocked, I still get a lot from the posts.

I guess my point is, though I am improving myself (learning about MGTOW, forming my own plans, looking for a new job) – I am seriously wasting their time here. The interesting problem is, no one has noticed. Similar to Office Space, my work output has dropped off a cliff, and no one noticed. The boss even said something to the effect of ‘I am reducing your responsibilities because you need a break’ (yes, this is one of the breaking points of my relationship here – he feels threatened and took things away because I was making him look incompetent – which he is).

So I am just venting a little, and wondering if this is a stage in the process… the ‘0 f*cks given’ stage…

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Yeah it’s a stage in the process of getting your ass fired.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Anonymous 2]

Yup. Have it too. Management just wants me to occupy this chair, they don’t give a flying f~~~ about code quality. I stick around for the money, couldn’t give a rats ass about the company or it’s time… they don’t care about me or my time either. We don’t have that kind of relationship, it’s entirely financial.

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

xlrsnbrg wrote:

Yeah it’s a stage in the process of getting your ass fired.

I get that also, but it isn’t really. Sadly I outperform the others here even at my reduced effort level. I know that sounds horribly egotistical, but it is true.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Gerald wrote:

The interesting problem is, no one has noticed.

Do you work for the Government? LOL

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Yes, I am also part of the problem population. Old white guy.

Recruited so that the competition doesn’t have me. But, I have worked to build my small group of millennial mania men. Rerouting them.

It is funny when you get to the age/place where you are referred to as the brain trust.

One side thing. Augmented Reality is coming fast and will change everything.

Dark out

Peace brothers

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@gerald this is so relevant and I completely understand.

I’m a hard worker, and always have been since receiving a military-style/no-f~~~ing-around schooling. But it took me too many years to realize that a hamster on a wheel is also a …. “hard worker”. And how far does that hamster get?

Nowhere.

Then I started noticing I was also doing other people’s jobs, and the powers that be didn’t appear to give a s~~~. One day, it got to the point where I was ALSO doing another guy’s job because he was out with an injury for months…. and in every direction, everyone else seemed to care LESS.

Shortly after he returned … HE got a promotion. And I stayed put because I was now “too valuable” in the position I was in.

( try and wrap your head around that one. )

The more I observed, I noticed Mondays are bulls~~~, because it takes everyone until lunch to wake up after their weekend and get back in to gear. Fridays are bulls~~~, because after lunch everyone starts to gear down for the weekend, and I would hear them talking, laughing, making noise, yakking on the phone etc, So it’s like everyone really only works 4 days a week. WTF?? If I were the boss, I would be P~~~ED, but even they would join in on it(!) and they were “lazy” too.

So instead of working “hard”…. I started working SMART.

Here and there, when I would get downtime or I would be tapping my fingers waiting for someone to get off their ass, I wouldn’t waste that time on youtube or playing games. I would use it for something productive. Instead of wasting all this effort try to expect other people to step it up, or getting frustrated with the relaxed uncaring attitudes, I kept my pace…. but instead of doing THEM the favor and not being rewarded (or recognized) for it, I did’t MYSELF the favor.

Wasting my companies time – but not mine

When I saw the title, I knew exactly what you were talking about.

“In this life….. nobody gives it to you. You have to TAKE it”.
– Jack Nicholson

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Damn Keymaster,

You need to write a book with all these little lessons.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

I feel in a comsumer based economy, hard work rarely gets rewarded. Smart work tends to be rewarded more as KM pointed out above. I busted my ass bigtime at every job i had up til the one i have now. I still have to remind myself that the only reward for working very hard in the past … might as well have been a kick in the teeth.

The harder i worked, the more job security i had sure. But i also became their go to guy. It was like being a running back in football and having the QB hand the ball off to you every single down. Until eventually i would crack and put in a two weeks notice from major stress and fatigue.

You should be ok, sometimes when you feel you’re wasting company time you’re not. As long as you at least do the basics you were hired to do you’ll be ok @ Gerald.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

When I say I was recruited, I mean recruited back. There were three of us that they recruited with the slogan “what will it take to get you back?” They got us.

When a person says that everyone is replaceable it is only because they have not met someone that isn’t.

I have been lucky to meet someone who is as close to a “John Galt” as I could imagine.

He told me and the other guy to take the deal and we would flip them by training a new group of “men of ability.”

I completely understand what stealthy is saying. It is my solution to the issue many have been stating in various forms here.

Peace brothers

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Yup, Gerald, that sounds about right.

How long were you mentally checked in to work? I know that I was mentally checked out on my first day, did what you did, and was fired.

Keymaster wrote:

Here and there, when I would get downtime or I would be tapping my fingers waiting for someone to get off their ass, I wouldn’t waste that time on youtube or playing games. I would use it for something productive. Instead of wasting all this effort try to expect other people to step it up, or getting frustrated with the relaxed uncaring attitudes, I kept my pace…. but instead of doing THEM the favor and not being rewarded (or recognized) for it, I did’t MYSELF the favor.

So you’d already figured out that there’s no justice in the world, that the work that you’re putting in means absolutely nothing to them, yet you do it any way and with the same zeal?!

Your work ethic is out-f~~~ing-standing.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

So you’d already figured out that there’s no justice in the world, that the work that you’re putting in means absolutely nothing to them, yet you do it any way and with the same zeal?!

Yes but directing to the right place where (ensuring) YOU will benefit from it.

I find the “pace” of other people is much slower and they are WAY too relaxed with not enough sense of urgency. They actually complain about a 40 hour work week. But to me, a 40 hour work week is like a goddam VACATION.

They say “have a nice weekend”, to which I reply “A weekend? What’s that??”.

Let’s say you have a 40/hr-week job that pays $50K a year. How much of a “raise” can you give yourself if you’re prepared to work 60? That’s another rent or a NICE car payment. Take your pick, whatever motivates you.

You can’t sit around and wait for THEM to give you a raise on THEIR snail’s pace.
It’s like watching paint dry.

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Your work ethic is out-f~~~ing-standing.

Thank you for noticing. 🙂

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[narwhalParticipant]

I find I go through slow periods where I don’t seem to be fully motivated. My bosses don’t seem to care as I get it done when it needs to be done, and I don’t need to be told to do it. Perhaps that’s a good work ethic, I don’t know. In a couple weeks, I’ll probably be back closer to full speed. The way I see it, I’m paid to be handle the job, not put in the time.

I agree completely about working smart. I discovered years ago that those who work overtime never got any personal benefit from it, unless they were contractually paid for those hours. When you work longer hours consistently, you work less effectively, and management starts expecting it. I don’t work overtime unless I absolutely need to.

As for government jobs, my first job out of college was for the city conservation department in Austin, TX. It didn’t take long to figure out there were two types employees there, those that cared about the environment and those that wanted an easy job to coast through. I was neither. After a year or so of working there, my typical day was about 9-4 with a 2+ hour lunch in there (went to the gym). My boss could care less, as he was just as interested in getting out as I was. In fact, I got out because a recruiter called my boss looking for a particular skillset. My boss didn’t have the skillset and I did, so my boss called me into his office and put the call on speaker.

Ok. Then do it.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Antipathy wrote:

I feel in a comsumer based economy, hard work rarely gets rewarded. Smart work tends to be rewarded more as KM pointed out above.

They care mostly about results, not so much of how you get them.

But at least they care about something that can make the system somewhat functional. Or if they don’t, the company usually fails and another takes its place, unless they’re big enough so that higher powers intervene.

By contrast I’ve spent some time in a couple of workplaces in a country with an economy with socialist/communist influences, and the amount of corruption, cheating, lying, stealing (literally, some secretaries from HR were caught stealing employee bonuses since they were managing the papers; of course nobody was punished) horrified me. I’ll do all I can not to end up in such a place again.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[RoyDalParticipant]

Gerald wrote:

I get that also, but it isn’t really. Sadly I outperform the others here even at my reduced effort level. I know that sounds horribly egotistical, but it is true.

Yep! The ultimate teaching of Dilbert is to be like Wally.
This is the essential inner truth of prospering in today’s corporate culture.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Keymaster wrote:

Let’s say you have a 40/hr-week job that pays $50K a year. How much of a “raise” can you give yourself if you’re prepared to work 60? That’s another rent or a NICE car payment. Take your pick, whatever motivates you.

You’re right, but it’s important to realize that it’s not free. There’s an opportunity cost associated with working 60hr/week instead of 40hr/week: twenty hours of freedom purely to yourself.

I consider freedom so precious and so valuable that I’m completely willing to forego a nice car and all of life’s trumpery if it means I get more time to myself. I’m one of those people who complain about a forty-hour work week; that’s so much time out of this one life that I’ll never get back, and I feel bad wasting ANY part of it. Who cares if I’m getting paid, if I have so little time to enjoy that money? Money means nothing if I feel like the majority of my life is a drudge.

Contrast your work ethic with mine, and that’s why you’ll probably always be richer and have more options (and, ironically, more freedom) than I.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

So long as you’re completing your assignments and doing what you’re PAID to do, it doesn’t matter how you spend your time. If they tell you to get a certain task done by tomorrow and it takes you 30 minutes and you f~~~ off for 7 hours, it’s the same as taking 7 1/2 hours to do the job. It’s hilarious to see how SLOW most people are.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Something similar happened to me a while back. For a good 4 or 5 years I busted my b~~~~ for a company. Anything that needed done, I’d do. I’d regularly do other people’s jobs. Take additional training and certifications in order to “make myself more valuable to the company.” What really happened was that I was now certified to do their job so they were allowed to screw off. I didn’t make any more money, didn’t get any more appreciation, didn’t get s~~~. And the more I helped people out, the less they did. I was EXPECTED to do other people’s jobs. My boss didn’t care, management didn’t care, and I was p~~~ed off. It was like a mini pseudo red pill moment.

You realize everything you learned about work is a lie. You work hard, do it right, do it fast, take pride in your work and nothing happens. The other guy can sit and laze around because he’s friends with your boss. So eventually I quit giving a s~~~. Lost all my enthusiasm for work. It was just a pay check. Clock in, clock out. Don’t give a s~~~. You’re not rewarded or even recognized for doing a good job, or even a great job.

And when others get promoted or given special treatment because they are friends with the boss, it makes you not give a s~~~. Totally get where you’re coming from, man. Hopefully you plan better than I did. I didn’t look for another job secretly, I just got p~~~ed told my boss to go f~~~ himself, and left.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

On the one hand, I’m not motivated to work hard at work (rather, I should say that I have yet to find employment where I’m motivated to work hard), because I already know that there’s no justice in this world, and I know that my working hard does not in any way entail any personal gain for me . . .

. . . but on the other hand, I’m incredibly lazy, and perhaps I’m just looking really hard for a reason to justify my slacking off.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Nice Guy EddieParticipant 527]

After a work-stress induced burnout a few years ago, I re-evaluated things.

I work 50-60h per week, as well as doing “on-call” for emergencies 24/7 every 1 in 4 weeks.

Government job, well renumerated, secure 5 – year contract, but I have worked my ass off for 30 years to get where I am.

I figured out that you get no tangible benefit from doing other peoples work. Sure, you get the “good guy” vibe, but that isn’t worth s~~~.

It turned out that when I dialed down mine and other’s expectations, and just did what I thought was a reasonable job, that nothing bad happened. I didn’t lose my job and the world kept turning. I continued to hit my KPIs with ease and my annual performance appraisals are excellent. My satisfaction at work increased exponentially.

There is no prize for being “well-liked” and being known as someone who will take on more and more work until they crack.

NGE

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