Was it ever that good in the first place?

[GeraldParticipant 3654]

Perhaps we can put a little different spin on marriage and LTRS for you new young bucks who found your way here.

A question for those who were, are, or were nearly married… was the sex ever really THAT good?

I will be happy to answer. In my experience, sex was always best when it was with wild abandon and felt a bit wrong by societal standards (pre-wedlock, nearly in public, etc.) And when. It was spontaneous… and when thinking back about all three of my long term relationships, including my marriage, it was never that good. Yes, I have never felt that overwhelming rapture that is supposed to be what sex is all about… ever.

So while we all discuss how it dries up after marriage and when you get older… I am starting to think the question is, was it ever that good in the first place?

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

It’s all just nerve endings firing and signalling and triggering hormone release, and it’s all designed to keep you under the thumb of your programming.

The programming is there to make you crave her so that you’ll protect and provide between hits of your drug.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

I’ve brought myself (with the help of some toys) to some really earth shattering orgasms. Like, stuff you can’t even describe. I’ve never actually had sex before and I always wondered what the real thing would be like if the toys are that good. But then I did some research and discovered that it’s more about the brain chemicals than the physical experience.

It’s mostly in your head, and who knows what you like better than you do? I’ve talked with some other guys and they nearly all agree that they’ve gotten better orgasms with toys and porn than they ever got with real women.

I’ll admit, it takes something REALLY hot (usually in the form of erotica rather than visual stimuli) to get me to these super intense orgasms, but every once in a while something really gets me going and it’s like nothing else.

So in the end my advice is to take care of yourself and forget women. The risks vs. rewards just don’t add up even if it’s a simple fling. A marriage is just paying 100x more for a whore than you have to.

[HitmanParticipant]

Sex can be incredibly good when you have established the connection with the woman your with. .
Problem is maintaining it.
Seems that what she likes changes and your supposed to be a mind reader. .
Instead of just saying how she feels, she expects you to magically know.
Starts good and ends just how I described it ..
Then it goes to zero.

[Anonymous 0]

Most men probably don’t end up marrying a woman because the sex with her is super-hot. Sex is just one facet of the overall relationship, and some of the other facets are more important. So I suspect most times you find someone who seems a good life partner in general, you see that she is “good enough” in bed, and you figure with any luck the sex will hopefully get even better with time and familiarity and practice. You say, “good enough” and you lock it in for the duration.

At least, that was my attitude toward the sex in a marriage.

Of course, for one reason or another, the sex tends to dry up over time. The wife starts measuring it out and doling it out to you like drops from an eyedropper. Or she uses it to reward you and punish you. Or she just wants sex one single way all the time and refuses any effort on your part to change things up. Or she gives you hell for not reading her mind and being a perfect lover, even as she herself contributes nothing. And so on.

In the end, women just don’t look at sex the same way as men. Sooner or later, sex tends to dry up or turn into a chore or simply cost too much in terms of what you have to do for it. Basically that’s what guys need to understand about sex in marriage. It’s very difficult to keep the sex hot in a marriage. Women use the bedroom as an easy place to s~~~-test the man or struggle for dominance in the relationship in general. Or they just get lazy and can’t be bothered to invest in it. They push all the effort onto the guy.

Esther Vilar has a couple chapters in her book “The Manipulated Man” on the subject of sex: “Sex as a Reward” and “The Female Libido.” Those two chapters start on page 44 at the following link: http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf

A couple quotes from dear old Aunt Esther:

“A woman will certainly feel happy when she has an orgasm – but it is not the most intense pleasure she knows. A c~~~tail party, or buying a new pair of aubergine-colored patent-leather boots, rates far higher.” (page 50)

And

“It is probable that many women would be pleased if man’s need for sex dried up after she had produced two or three children. It would do away with numerous small inconveniences.” (page 51)

[Anonymous 43]

nope, not great, but I’m really repulsed by sex. I did it just to umm fit in.

If I don’t do it, she’ll throw mw away.

After a while, sex stopped and I was happier. Unfortunately, she became more unhappy, erratic and out of control.

She would just beat the s~~~ out of me, a couple times I blacked out from not getting enough air. Then she would smack me around for falling asleep. Yeah, passed out and she is still jumping on me. Not fun. The worst was yanking on my junk,,,she called it the grab handle, she had no clue how all that was attached. It ain’t detachable honey. I can’t bend that way.

Sex? keep it. I have better things to do.

After getting married and having 2 kids is a great time to figure out you’re an ace.

[GeraldParticipant 3654]

Sex was always awesome for me, the only time it wasn’t awesome was when my ex started putting on weight, I told her she was getting fat, p~~~ed her right the f~~~ off.

Every girl I f~~~ed was smokin hot and the sex was always awesome, never got tired of it unless said women stopped taking care of herself. For you fat troll c~~~s out there, no, fat is not sexy. I don’t know how some men out there f~~~ these land whales, its f~~~ing mind boggling men out there actually do this.

Well perhaps I can shed some light.

I am not an attractive guy, or I wasn’t when younger. I was thin, not much muscle tone, no money, etc. I tried to get with the ‘hot’ girls but had little confidence as I thought I had to ‘have more to offer’. The jerks who they liked were always traditionally ‘hot’ guys.

So I settled. The size 16 with big t~~~ was always my target. I was always a boob guy. Then it became easier to find those on bigger girls… so I settled. Maybe that is why sex isn’t that good…

But I think there is a value issue as well. Sex lasts a short while, an hour or so if you’re lucky… and it ends. The pain and suffering to enjoy that hour makes it worthless. But it takes hindsight to realize it. Am hopeful one young guy gets this and doesn’t fall into the trap.

I would rate the hottest experience I had as probably an 8 of 10. And that was with a stripper.

Perhaps it gets better when I go MGTOW successfully and focus on me, rather than on them or the experience itself.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

I’ve been fortunate to have some great sex. Yea, it is that good. But, you can only f~~~ them so much. You need to have a relationship. A good relationship requires two people sharing. I have yet to have a relationship where the woman gave anywhere close to as much as I did. It’s been so one sided that I am surprised when they give anything.

[Mister StealthParticipant 362]

The person I had married the sex was never really all that good.
It dried up the day after the wedding. We are talking the sahara desert dry.

Best times of having sex where when I never really card about the other person, it was just physical use them until I was finished.

Steel sharpens steel

[Mr.KraftParticipant 236]

Hitman wrote:

Sex can be incredibly good when you have established the connection with the woman your with. .
Problem is maintaining it.
Seems that what she likes changes and your supposed to be a mind reader. .
Instead of just saying how she feels, she expects you to magically know.
Starts good and ends just how I described it ..
Then it goes to zero.

You know hitty, I have a feeling you and I were siblings in the past life. I have to agree once again with everything you have stated.

Would like to add from my personal experience:
1- If you have feelings for the chick and the connection is there, then it is awesome in terms of spirituality and connection. They call it making love for a reason
Now the sissy s~~~ apart…
2- The sex is downright f~~~ing amazing and dirty when it is fresh. That is the probably main reason why I started loving the pump and dump thing. You annihilate a girl, a total stranger, and then just go your own way. You are being selfish and use her for the sperm receptical that she is. Also knowing that you get to be that ‘1 time bad boy type of a guy’ in her life and that she will describe you as that to people just makes it even more sweet.

I was never married, but had long term girlfriends. IN EVERY SINGLE CASE, the sex ceased to be all that great probably 8-9 months into the relationship (of course not to brag but I usually get physical in the first 2-3 dates anyway).

[Sky-OParticipant 19029]

I was married once.

I’ve been in a few relationships.

In a couple of those relationships, we cohabitated.

Now with that being said, in each of those situations, the sex was manageably tolerable and not great.

However. The most insane, out of control, porn-induced sex I have ever had has been with women who at the time were either:

Married

Engaged

or

Had a ‘boyfriend’

And it took me years to figure out why. They played the ‘good girl’ role in those situations. Had sex without being too slutty about things and had those guys secured for the provider / utility purpose they needed. And didn’t let themselves get off the way they wanted to and/or were not into the guy.

But when they were cheating, it was exciting and an escape from their everyday life. And they could turn their inner slut on and take the meaning of the word orgasm to a whole new level.

And I can honestly say, based on my field research during my blue pill era, banging women like that. They are able to do it with absolutely no empathy or remorse.

I never woke up and began my awakening until I realized I was just another c~~~ (and tounge) being used, and I was always just as disposable as the guys that stuck it in before me.

And regarding the concept of marriage:

When taking into account an attractive woman’s sexual appetite and factoring in her inherent lack of empathy, it would be foolish for any man to think he can make one monogamous.

I’ll never forget, hooking up with a married flight attendant. Spending three days trapped in a hotel room in Cabo, surviving off of Zone Bars and bottled water while taking her clit to the next level of orgasmic evolution.

After she blew me one morning and was still stroking my c~~~, I looked down and the reality of the situation hit me like a two ton brick.

Most of my load was on her hand and it was covering her wedding ring.

The same ring that an unsuspecting beta had put on her finger on their wedding day.

And that is when I began to process it all. Everything. And it took awhile.

I attribute my red pill awakening to the years I spent in the trenches, studying, learning and researching female psychology. Not in a classroom or a laboratory. But right there amidst where the worst of them live their double lives.

I was undercover in a way. Seeking insight and answers. Immersing myself in the evil and at the same time hoping I would have the strength to rise up out of it when the time came.

I almost lost myself in it. The sex became more emotionless, empty and even brutal.

There was even one I thought I could ‘fix’. With just enough unconditional love and compassion, I thought I could save her soul but came to find out she truly lacked one to begin with. And no amount of orgasms were going to re-wire her brain.

And thus. I began my journey out. Bloodied, broken but unbound. Like a phoenix rising from the ashes.

I became, the Sky-0

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