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Hello brothers, Although i joined only recently I have been a MGTOW man in spirit for 2 years. I felt it was time to introduce myself. I am not a man going his own way in the strictist sense, as i am currently married. I guess you can call me an AWM…”poor bastard” or “Moron” is also acceptable.
My red pill moment…I have more than one really. they all came during my marriage. It’s funny how imprisonment through matrimony makes men notice these things.
It was more like choking down morpheus’ hidden stash than just one singular event. It took that much to finally get through my thick skull. But if i had to pick one. It would be letting my wife control the finances for a period of one year…big mistake. I had saved up alot of money over the past few years as a retirement plan and fortunately she hasnt even touched it. I cashed some of it to get her here but that was all…a 10% loss. Anyway, on with the introduction.
I was at the mercy of this woman as she had budgeted for our wedding in her home country, more than 9000 Canadian dollars was thrown at this thing. 9000 dollars over the course of a year…and we did not make alot of money, i had some s~~~ job that was below poverty level and so did she. As the months went by we were saving nothing…literally nothing. I had been trying to get corrective orthotics and i could not even afford 400 dollars outside of this ridiculous wedding budget. Her primary concern was paying for the venue, for the wedding cakes, for the accomodation for her family. My health and well being did not even register on the radar screen.
Well i decided to make money moonlighting and she would always ask about it to which i said firmly“this is for me, you have the wedding, you have been sending all the excess cash to this wedding and I have tolerated it. Once this is over, I am taking control of the finances I am sick of this.”
She began to get upset and raised her voice at me. at first I cowered, then i thought of all the things i had to sacrifice, of the life i had before this, how i was able to save up 30,000 dollars in silver and gold working my same job, with the same hours and moonlighting yet with her i could not even buy a pair of f~~~ing corrective orthotics to solve an actual problem with my feet. I thought of all the free time i had, all the responsibilities to people i didn’t have, how I never had to wire money to someone on the other face of the planet. I was a free man and now i was a bank machine.I had it…I looked at her and i think it was in that instant standing at the bus stop with her in these s~~~ty shoes which were killing my feet. that i lifted the BP veil I unloaded all the above concerns onto her and not in a gentle manner, i was a razors edge away from yelling. When i was finished you know what she said next?…
“well if we are having trouble with the wedding, how are we going to have a honeymoon? weren’t we going to have one?”
If there was ever a moment in time when i wanted murder to be legal, that was it. I took a deep breath to calm myself and told her.
“There is not going to be a honeymoon sweety, however if you want, next year for our anniversary you can crank the heat up in the kitchen and pretend you are doing the dishes in cuba!”
It was three weeks before we even spoke to eachother again. As of this date I have taken the painful milestone of telling her that i do not want kids. she took it personally and despite me explaining to her that it does not matter who i am with she refuses to believe it. The hardest thing i ever had to tell anyone in my life was that if they want a child it would have to be with someone else.
I married this woman for love, I fell for the trap however, it was not any trap she set. it was a trap that is hidden and primed in all men before they decide to go their own way. the need for female companionship. the closest thing to true romantic love there is. I had only wanted to share a life with someone not live to serve them and their desires. Surprise!Currently i am in processing to join the Navy, I am not doing this for my wife i am not that stupid. I have been accepted into the marine engineering trade but have a few more hurdles to overcome. namely a psych eval and medical exam which i have to pay for out of pocket. When i saw how this delay affected my wife and also my mother I had another hit of the pill. They were more emotionally invested in me becoming a good little tin soldier and a provider. Who cares about how this is going to affect me, what i will have to go through right?
I just want a decent paycheque and i have a very limited skill set so this is the best option. I also chose the trade and branch specifically as it is the least likely to get me killed. All i want to do is my five year obligation, make good cash, save it and then get out with a decent part time or even on call job, less and a damn fine stack of silver, investments and spare cash to live off. She thinks that when i get that level of income that i will want to give her a child and surrender 18 years of my life just to satisfy her biological clock. I can’t even stand one year of living under her heel, screw 18 of them!
So here i am…discovering this wonderful Biological response to feminism and game changing philosophy called MGTOW. waiting for it to clue in for her that i REALLY do not want kids. Inspite of all this i do not hate my wife, I accept her for what she is. but i know nature is an unstoppable force. and my reluctance to have children is the immovable object. One day those two are going to collide, It’s just a matter of time.
So here i sit, waiting for the final collision and if it were not for this community, this phenomenon, I doubt i could walk away smiling. If she decides to go full retard and demand half of everything…fine…let her have it, i’ll gift the Precious metals to some unnamed uncle until she screws off once and for all. even if that tactic won’t work My freedom is priceless. and worth far more than it’s weight in gold.
Anonymous12Welcome aboard and hope you like it here.
welcome man .
pull the plug on her quickly.
this is going to be the best thing you ever did .
divorce her as soon as possible, BEFORE you go into the military.
it’s your life friend..i hope you protect yourself from her !
she will destroy your world if she stays in it.
only YOU can get her out of your life.
good luck on your mission !Welcome home brother!
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
Welcome to the dark side of the force and good luck with the navy.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Welcome. You are being quite benevolent by saying you don’t hate her. Any person that would put a five hour party to impress her friends ahead of my health gets a quick invitation to the head of my s~~~ list. As Hitman said – get out now. It will only get worse. If you cannot pull the plug yet, please make sure to get a vasectomy! If you don’t, you run a very high risk of her trapping you into fathering an unwanted child. Then you are screwed and she will have your b~~~~ skinned and quartered hanging on her mantle for at least 18 years. Best of luck brother. We are here for you.
Welcome!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Welcome, get vasectomy man. Don’t take the risk. You have no say in reproduction, you have only 2 options, one is not safe (condoms) and the other is permanent (vasectomy). Everything else is her choice. If she wants, she will have the baby, with or without your consent.
I had a lot of luck that my ex was infertile. Otherwise I would already be a “good hubby”, working my ass off 50h/week. And now.. I live a nice life. I earn a lot more then I can spend, I can freely choose anything, have a substantial savings.
There is a very good blog marriageispurgatory.blogspot.com. Creator is a husband and a father out of accident. I recommend it.
Cheers.
Anonymous0Welcome. You are being quite benevolent by saying you don’t hate her. Any person that would put a five hour party to impress her friends ahead of my health gets a quick invitation to the head of my s~~~ list. As Hitman said – get out now. It will only get worse. If you cannot pull the plug yet, please make sure to get a vasectomy! If you don’t, you run a very high risk of her trapping you into fathering an unwanted child. Then you are screwed and she will have your b~~~~ skinned and quartered hanging on her mantle for at least 18 years. Best of luck brother. We are here for you.
Welcome, Brother
Yes, get a vasectomy and DON’T TELL HER. That way when she tells you, oops I’m pregnant, you will know it’s not yours and she was cheating on you. Then the divorce can be finalized before the child is born and you will not be paying for her child. Sounds harsh, but in today’s world you have protect yourself. Good LuckWelcome, get vasectomy man. Don’t take the risk. You have no say in reproduction, you have only 2 options, one is not safe (condoms) and the other is permanent (vasectomy). Everything else is her choice. If she wants, she will have the baby, with or without your consent.
I had a lot of luck that my ex was infertile. Otherwise I would already be a “good hubby”, working my ass off 50h/week. And now.. I live a nice life. I earn a lot more then I can spend, I can freely choose anything, have a substantial savings.
There is a very good blog marriageispurgatory.blogspot.com. Creator is a husband and a father out of accident. I recommend it.
Cheers.
I have actually be trying to get one! My GP however is reluctant to refer me to a urologist. I went in there, told him about my reluctance to have kids.
“did you talk to your wife about this?”
I told him I did, infact i told her straight that if she wanted children it will have to be with someone else. His response was
“wait till you get a better income in the navy, maybe it will help you change your mind.”
I told him that i doubt this will change my mind and if he is unwilling to refer me what are my options for birth control? Well I already knew the answer, but he spelled it plain.
“Condom or no sex.”
Oh Canadian healthcare, you controlling whore…I have not given up though, I am trying to find someone who does not need a referral from my doctor if that is even possible.
Greetings Warrivar,
Appreciate your introduction.
Navy trained Engineers are the Gods of Building Maintenance, Power Plants, Water and Sewage Treatment Plants, HVAC-R, and large Hotels. The practical training they receive on the ships is the best. Large buildings need men that know what to do with the equipment and systems that keeps everything running safely.
Since you are still married, you can provide first hand reports of Women’s Nature. It is easy for a free man to forget the subtlety of the passive/ aggressive methods used to enslave men. We are not mentally/ emotionally prepared to comprehend the depths of a woman’s narcissism.
And you can study your own natural automatic responses which undermine a man’s life. There are many things that we do and that happen to us which become buried and forgotten when in a marriage. Some things are so shameful and emasculating that we are incapable of dealing with them and are unable to tell anyone about them. Burying this s~~~ drives a man insane and it one of the reasons jobs are more hostile than they should be.
That being said, get out of that marriage ASAP.
When she ignored your need for Orthotics and openly proclaimed her intention to change your mind about children, she was being a typical women demonstrating a Woman’s Narcissism. If you can get past her charms, hopefully you can come to understand that she can never love you.
You have put yourself in chains.
The Money you earn should be yours, not hers.
Since you pitched in your hard earned cash to have a wedding that she wanted, can you get her to pitch in her wages to help pay for your vasectomy? This question is a rhetorical device aimed at getting you to examine your wife’s manipulation and narcissism.
You must learn to stop showing her your cards. It will be a mistake to tell her about your vasectomy.
You may have to travel to the USA and pay for a vasectomy which costs about $350 to $1000.
I wonder if there are any clinics remaining in Canada which will do a vasectomy for cash?
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
TMM is absolutely correct – you had damn well better get a divorce before you go into the Navy based on the red flags she is flapping furiously like semaphores on an aircraft carrier. She WANTS children whether you do or not and she will get them with or without you. That means either stealing one of your recently used condoms and impregnating herself with a turkey baster and then telling you after getting pregnant that your condom ‘broke’, or she’ll f~~~ another guy while you’re gone and then claim the child is yours. EVEN IF IT IS NOT YOUR CHILD, the courts will still force you to pay child support if you divorce because the legal assumption is that you’re still responsible for it since you’re still married. PLEASE read this link and also Google ‘child support for child that is not yours’:
Excerpt: “The state of Florida does not care if you are the real father or not. The courts do not care if you are the real father or not. No one in the legal community cares either. The law is quite clear on who gets the priority and who receives the benefit of doubt in these types of situations. That person is the child. The only thing current laws care about is that children receive proper financial support. All the emotion and fairness of the situation is completely stripped out in favor of that one concept. And it is entirely possible that child support will continue on for years even if there is a universal understanding you are not the real rather.”
For more on the horrible status of military men who made the mistake of getting married, give this a listen:
My brother was in the Navy and can attest to the fact that military wives located on bases where the husband was out on deployment cheat – they hit on him all the time and often banged more than one guy – Google ‘military wives cheat’. In your case she didn’t marry you because you were in the service, but you yourself said “They were more emotionally invested in me becoming a good little tin soldier and a provider”. Yup, they want that money. Btw, are you going to be able to keep from cheating on her when you’re on a ship for months and port bitches are more than eager to bang men in uniform?
Second, your prospects in life are far better than hers (and she knows it), given the speciality you’ll be learning in the Navy, which also means she will be earning less than you and hence will take you for as much money as she can in alimony, which depends on the state and of course how long you’ve been married. The longer you stay married, the worse she will hurt you financially.
Also, the fact that she ignored your medical condition is outrageous and is the worst possible red flag you can get – it means she doesn’t see you as a real human being, you’re simply the provider. If for some reason you stay married, enter the Navy and get crippled somehow on a ship and come home, you can bet that she’ll divorce you instead of helping you through life. The fact that you got married at all in light of what she did was definitely blue pill, but I can guarantee you that she will never change except for the worse.
I’ve had my share of lousy experiences with women too so I can tell you this with all sincerity – this woman does not love you. You’re like a wind-up toy soldier with a wallet and she definitely wants to soak you for at least 18 years of child support.
Finally, consider this: let’s assume you fully swallow the red pill and DTB (Dump That Bitch). Can you imagine how much better and freer your life in the Navy will be not having to worry about what she will be doing when you’re not around, and you can get laid in every port without guilt? Think also of all the money and precious metals you’ll be stacking without having her reach into your wallet? Btw, when you’re not around women will spend like drunken sailors on the most stupid s~~~ you can imagine, turning your hard-earned cash into dust. Cut your losses while you can, IMHO.
One last comment: I have a cousin who got married young even though he knew the girl would never have a decent job and also had horrible spending habits. He ended up divorcing her when he discovered she’d taken out multiple credit cards and had run up many thousands of dollars in debt – I don’t recall if the cards were under her married name or his name, but he was on the hook for them. The same thing could happen to you.
Anonymous5Great Intro Warrivar, thanks for sharing.
I read your intro last night and followed the link from your profile to your channel.
I saw this MGTOW Terminolgy
F~~~ing hilarious, very enjoyable and it made my night.
Nice to see you haven’t let her crush your sense of humor.
Warning: Get out before she doesWelcome! Thanks for sharing.
You are well aware of what can happen if you continue on. Hope you do what is right for YOU.
Good luck brother!
#MANOUT
Thank you for your intro. It’s given me a headache so it’s a good one.
Heed what all have said before I got to this ‘write in’ section:
YOU MUST DO THINGS IN THE PROPER CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OR YOU WILL REGRET IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
YOU MUST DO THINGS IN THE PROPER CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OR YOU WILL REGRET IT FOR THE
REST OF YOUR LIFE.FIRST – – – – GET RID OF HER. DUMP HER RIGHT NOW. EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE FAIRY TALE OF NAWALT, SHE IS NOT THE ONE
SHE IS NOTHER ACTIONS HAVE DEFINED HER AS A PREDATOR OF THE WORST SORT.
DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT ENTER THE MILITARY UNTIL YOU HAVE DUMPED HER.
ENTERING THE MILITARY NOW WITH HER ABLE TO TAKE EVERYTHING IS AKIN TO ASKING BEN HUR TO SIT ASIDE SO YOU CAN “ROW WELL AND LIVE”
DO NOT LET HER CONTINUE TO PLAY YOU FOR A FOOL. I APOLOGISE FOR THAT HARSHNESS, BUT IT’S THE TRUTH AND YOU WILL LATER THANK THE GUYS HERE FOR IT.
DO NOT LET HER GET PREGNANT VIA YOU OR YOUR CONDOM CONTENTS ETC. GET A VASECTOMY AND OR DNA TESTING MINIMUM.RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A SELFISH BITCH. END IT. OR YOU WILL HAVE A LIFE DESTROYED BY A SELFISH BITCH. THIS IS NOT RAGE. THIS IS TRUTHFUL ANGER AT THE INJUSTICE BEING SETUP ALL AROUND YOU.
YOU DID NOT COME HERE WITHOUT A REASON. NOW YOU HAVE TO DO THE TEMPORARILLY HEAVY LIFTING OF RIDDING YOURSELF OF MEGA-LEECH BEFORE SHE RIDS YOU OF YOUR LIFE.
GOOD LUCK.
YOU ARE NOT MARRIED TO THIS WOMAN. THANK HEAVEN. YOU ARE BEING GIVEN THE CHANCE NOW, SO GET RID OF HER."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
“Condom or no sex.”
Good to know. I’m close to getting mine also. I wonder if in my country that applies too. I’m single and 30. I already saw on the “clinic” page that ‘the procedure is aimed at fathers and husbands that want to improve they family life’. Just a lot of crap, that is. And it was more about hers “health” and “well-being”, that anything else…
Ow, the red pill… our relationship is really a love-hate one.Thank you everyone for your support and encouragement, as well your subsequent kicks in the ass. I can assure you though i am not blind to how my woman has been able to manipulate me these past years. and no harshness needs apologizing as it comes with advice and concern. However since my wife is a sponsored immigrant i can not just jump ship there are certains obligations i chained myself to but i have a plan…
I want to make it clear though we were married before the financial sink hole of a wedding ceremony was being saved for, we had to get registered in her home country to start the immigration process. the party came afterwards sorry i should have cleared that up.
TMM, I can offer insight into how a married man is manipulated from a very unique perspective as my wife is not from the west, she is a traditional Chinese woman who was also the first child and as a result was the defacto male, she had to provide for the family as there were no sons.
Her manipulation is emotional neediness and it is nothing like what a western girl does, it is unfortunately very genuine. She grew up in a dysfunctional household with a father who’s business enterprise went bankrupt and instead of getting back on his feet he fell into a pit of alcoholism and drug abuse, going from faliure, to addict, to junkie. Her mother divorced him and took the kids back to her home town.
When my wife came of working age she decided to pay off her father’s debt as is demanded of her culturally. It is a very f~~~ed up society on this level. Men lack some of the most basic human rights. when a boy turns 18 he is FORCED to join the military for at least 2-3 years or he gets locked up, and not just locked up, shamed, disowned from everyone around him as it is seen as a rite of passage not a violation of individuality, (such a concept holds very little weight there.) He dishonors the family and in that culture suicide from that kind of treatment is just stone’s throw away. the other avenue most travel down is her father’s.
Women do not have to worry about this, they are the homebodies who cook, clean, look after the man and kids or help out with the business. they do not get a mate if they reject this duty and arent trophy wife material for some super-rich asshole…i guess you could call it socially obligated reciprocation. It is a culture of mama’s boys as the sons never see their fathers who usually work long hours 10-12 per day and overtime when demanded. much like Japan only no herbivore men…yet. (give it time.)
Honestly…i think she is just exhausted from being the provider, She functions fine in her home country in terms of work, she landed a middle income job and worked at the same company for 5 years. But here no such luck, and i do blame canada’s over regulation for her employability problems in the same field but still, if you need income…sling lattes while you get recertified dont just sit around the house crying all day, god damn it woman.
It was when we had this fight about the wedding ceremony and during the ceremony in chinese new year that i realized just what the problem was…her family of 200+ people all had expectations of her and it is not like in the west as i stated. it is a far more powerful social stigma than here. If anyone has ever been to asia maybe you can relate to what i am saying on some level. but anyway…they all expect me to give them a eurasian kid, and…be the provider.
During chinese new year when we stayed with her grandmother on her father’s side who in my humble opinion is responsible for most of her problems in relation to this uncontrollable need to pander to the family. I got a taste of how dysfunctional her family life was. Her parents divorced after her father fell into a spiral of alcohol and drug abuse because his company went bankrupt, he checked out and left the family with a ton of debt…guess who had to pay for it…yep my wife and when i came along I became the salvation, the man who would step up! so she immediately switched into housewife mode. In the west we are seen as tools we are raised to be disrespected because we are broken girls. Where she is from Men are seen as a provider the old role…They are compensated with servitude and respect from the woman.
although that is rapidly changing she is still of this mindset. It’s one thing to tell a woman to f~~~ off and make her own money. But to someone like my wife not only would she be offended at the idea, she has nothing to base this sense of independence off of. Absolutely nothing. sure she knows about it but what she understands are gender roles and expectations in her society not ours. It’s culture shock on a massive scale. I don’t need to tell anyone here what it is like to have the world turned on your head, to suddenly one day realize that everything you thought was true…was not applicable anymore.
unlike a disatisfied c~~~ carousel veteran or a feminist ho-bag who will take you for all your worth and p~~~ on you while laughing. My wife expects this of me on a much deeper level. so deep in fact i don’t think she can even understand why i don’t want to be her sole provider/sperm donor. I loved her for who I thought she was…not because she cooked, did the dishes, shut her mouth when i said i was going to do something, or was great at sex.
She was devestated when i said i didn’t want kids She feared shame from her family more than she valued my desires. and that is just as unacceptable to me as malevolent exploitation the only difference is intent and i don’t care either way.
This is why i do not hate her…What I am dealing with is a very emotionally needy person who is feeling pressure from all sides to fulfill a cultural duty and just won’t listen. the programming is almost borg like. I have told her time and time again in as many different ways as i can think:
“I am not a man from your people, i have different expectations of yourself and of me, I find validation in myself not in making others happy.”
but she just doesn’t get it. the unfortunate thing is that if she didn’t have this programming and didn’t want kids i probably wouldn’t have given a s~~~ and continued to be BP. But now i am witnessing female nature from a different angle…i am still seen as a wallet with legs, i just get a little bit more kick back and pats on the back for being a good little slave.
I hope this was informative and gave some insight as to my methods, first the snip because that is the only option i can even begin to explore for now and that is my entire focus.
Now if you want to laugh and not feel depressed. part 2 of MGTOW terminology is up. Ordinaryguy has the link im sure.
I fully understand and share your lack of woman-hate. Their behaviour is programmed, they do not even realize that and they do not realize that it harms us.
And I think that this is the most difficult thing. To walk away from women while realizing that the is no one to blame. Our mutual coexistence was never possible as a “family unit”.
Their nature is fixed. To blame them would be like blaming a cat that it kills mice.P.S.
It’s 3 months after I took the red pill. The rage is about to end. I started to internalize it. The world is different now. Many things are a lot clearer.- AuthorPosts
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