Wage Gap Argument

[Scooba5teveParticipant 18]

Hello brothers, I’m looking to completely destroy a few Wage-gap believing feminists that i know; looking for any good sources/points to make to learn up on the topic so that I can annihilate them.

Any help is greatly appreciated; and i’ll let you know how it goes 🙂

[Anonymous 1]

How about a feminist talking against this bulls~~~? Since women validates only other women opinion, and a feminist no less, here is a couple of videos for you to have some fun with this feminist friend of yours:

She is still a feminist though, so I would be careful nevertheless.

Enjoy!

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Hey Scooba. There is a book called why men earn more and it was mentioned on the Tom Leykis show by Tom. The author is Warren Farrell. It explains why men do earn more money due to the fact they are more likely to take risky jobs like construction workers or coal mining. It also mentions that men are more willing to travel for work over women and are willing to show up everyday for work. Women want to work less or not work mon to fri and are likely to have jobs that works around their schedule with kids and so forth. I never read the book but I heard it’s a good read. Good luck!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Here’s the thing about the supposed “wage gap”:  Feminists try to imply that women get paid less for equal work, but that’s simply not true.  Women do not do equal work.  Allow me to repeat that: WOMEN DO NOT DO EQUAL WORK.  The hideous sex difference in on the job injuries and fatalities alone show that women do not do equal work.  Men do the hard work.  Men do the dangerous work.  And men get paid more to do the hard dangerous work.

Meanwhile if you compare apples to apples you find that women in the same positions as men doing the same work get paid more than their male counterparts, usually because of a “hiring quota bonus”.  Funny how feminists are just fine with real world wage inequity but persist in bitching and whining about their statistically made up wage gap.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Okay, here’s one.

Women get paid less than men…in one way especially:

Because women tend to work LESS than men.

You can’t get paid the same amount of money if you’re taking half the week off to go to little Johnny’s soccer game, or taking 2 months maternity leave, or because you feel like getting a manicure, or because you have “women’s troubles”, so you’re too busy bleeding out of your vagina to make it to the car.

Okay, saying that last part took a lot of guts. Give me a little credit there.

I’ve worked in high-paying construction jobs. I’ve rarely ever seen women working those high-risk jobs. And the one or two women that I ever saw working those jobs got paid just as much as me. Actually, one of them was getting paid MORE than me because she had more seniority than me. LOL. But I wasn’t flailing my arms around and screaming, “UNFAIR WAGE GAP!” to get attention.

Plus, many women prefer the LOWER-paying jobs. Jobs that they hate…so that they can find a man to “rescue them”, and despite their bulls~~~ talk of being able to pay for themselves and help you out with society’s living costs after the wedding, now they have every excuse to quit their s~~~ty job, or just go part-time.

And women don’t get those lower-paying jobs because they plan on making it a career.

Anyway, those are some of my opinions.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

I love it when women bring up stupid examples as “proof” men get paid for the same job even though you can poke so many holes in it. Like this one woman said “if men and women get paid the same then how come my male co worker in the same position as me as was just able to go on vacation while I can barely afford my rent?” and I was like there are many reasons for that such as he could have been saving up for a while to afford to go on vacation, you could have sucky habits when it comes to saving money, you could have debt and he doesn’t. maybe you live in an expensive area while he lives in an affordable area. Maybe he was married or has roommates so rent isn’t as much, maybe he won the lotto and didn’t tell anymore. But no if he could go on vacation and she couldn’t then it automatically means men are paid more lol.

For my job I am friends with 2 of the women I work with we were all hired around the same time yet one makes more then me and while I get paid the same hourly as the other I take home more after taxes, why? The one who makes the same as me hourly as a kid who is on her benefits so naturally more is taken out since she is paying for 2 people while I just have myself. The other makes more then us because she has more experience. I feel I should have started on the higher pay scale like her though since I felt I had years of experience to but they didn’t count mine and I don’t throw a fit about it since I don’t make the rules and as much as I disagree I can see why they don’t count my experience to start on the higher pay scale.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Maybe if the comparison was actually factual, instead of a generalized statement, the bulls~~~ about perceived wage gaps would make sense.

for example… Jane complains to some feminazi SJW/journalist/politician about the “fact” that Dick and Tom get paid more than Jane even though all 3 are drivers for the same transport company, all hired at around the same time, and that’s just not “right”<sniffles>. Also she lets it drop that in the vehicle maintenance department, Harry gets paid way more than Gladys.

Enter the clowns, hell bent on fixing this drama. Yup, its true the boys get paid more than the girls. Isn’t that company is a bunch of woman haters hell bent on keeping the sista’s down <roar>.

A closer examination reveals that Dick is a super-B transport driver that goes across North America, Tom just happens to drive rigs through the Rockies, Jane is also a driver… she drives a 1 ton during the day, and doesn’t leave the city.

Over in the maintenance bays, it is also true that Harry gets paid more than Gladys. Both are heavy duty diesel mechanics. Harry is a 4th year journeyman, and Gladys is a first year apprentice.

None of this really matters because certain “facts” are omitted… what really counts is that Jane complained so it must be true.

(now where did i make the errors?)

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

The wage gap is embarrassingly easy to dispute. This video does a great job of explaining why, although I wouldn’t link a feminist due to the fact the presenter is male, and they’ll try to claim bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwogDPh-Sow

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

For the US: http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

Fort the EU:http://ec.europa.eu/justice/gender-equality/files/2007report_on_equal_pay_for_pub_-final_en.pdf

Enough to wreck any femitard who feels like regurgitating propaganda.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Christina Hoff Summers has some of the best stats I can find. Another thing I rarely hear is that men work jobs that are more dangerous and thus have a higher pay scale. You don’t see many females on Deadliest Catch do you?  The majority of who work in isolated locations building things are men, and they get a per day extra salary to cover food and shelter away from home. I’ve been on these jobs and people spend half their extra salary and pocketing the rest.Lastly I always wondered if they included professional athletes in the study because they get paid TONS and have no female counter part. Surely if they included Floyd Mayweather, Kobe Bryant and Matt Ryan that would skew the pay gap in women’s “favor”.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

From what I just read regarding rumors of Hillary Clinton stepping in and announcing her candidacy for President this coming Sunday, she’s apparently going to make “income equality” the prime focus of her campaign.  I could see whoever debating her absolutely destroying her on this, but I also see emotional voters/non-informed voters not caring and voting for her anyway simply because “first woman president.”

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

Women fail in life more more, and seek out failure, because failure for a woman is also validation. For a man, success is the only validation.

The general claim is that women “earn less for the same work.”  Which sounds horrible, and makes you want to rescue them.  That is the basic meme, and it is, as far as I can tell, it is absolutely never substantiated, because it is ILLEGAL.  I would love, as a lawyer, to find any employer who had any policy anywhere to pay women less for the same work, because I would have an instant winning case in my pocket.

My response to someone who makes this claim is always “please, show me this person making less for the same work because she is a woman.  She is my next client, and I’m going to make huge money representing her!”  I would love to find JUST ONE of these situations, because they are flat-out illegal.

Of course, battery is also illegal, and there are plenty of legitimate claims of domestic battery, along with the falsely-generated claims made to give women an edge in a relationship or divorce.   The difference is that WOMEN MAKE BATTERY CLAIMS in court, right and left.  They call the cops all the time for things like “I’ve been berating his manhood for hours while he silently took it, and he just lost his s~~~ and pushed me – please take him to jail.”  They (or at least a lot of them; obviously there’s the occasionally legitimate domestic abuse and intimidation situation).  have no problem reporting battery.

So why don’t women just bring the evidence of this obvious, blatant, discrimination to court?  They can’t get fired for it — that’s illegal too.  Again, blatant discrimination is amazingly easy to sue and win for.  The problem is, blatant discrimination isn’t what actually exists.  What actually exists, everywhere, is boiling resentment by women who work, that they HAVE TO WORK AT ALL.  Or that they HAVE TO DO WHAT THEIR BOSS TELLS THEM TO DO, rather than do things their own way.

And rather than acknowledge that they hate working, and hate having to do what they’re told, hate being a cog in the machine (something men have to get used to as adolescents, but many women manage to continually sidestep) they look for excuses that change them from bitter non-conformist to helpless, abused victim.

Because for a woman, being a victim means you get listened to.  Male victims don’t get listened to — that’s why men’s rights issues are so invisible — males get attention for SUCCESS.

Now, women get attention for success too, but because they can also get attention as victims, which is MUCH easier than succeeding, success generally feels empty and unrewarding for women.  Men on the other hand, who are starved for attention and validation, eat success up and are forever trying to get more of it.

THAT is the true reason for the earning gap, and the success gap (which is actually smaller by far than feminists claim).  Women have a dual path to recognition and attention — they can be victims, or they can be successful.  Men don’t get recognition or attention as victims, so the ONLY SOURCE of these things for men is success.  Surprise!  Men pursue success harder than women.

[taliensinParticipant 30]

hm,i don’t know where you live but in this side of the pond women are paid more for the same hours and the same work (the state,blessed be our enlightened masters,make up the difference)  because discrimination is cool if you add “positive” in front of it

edit:ok,the us,sorry, as an employer i tend to go ballistic when confronted with the subject as i know first hand how we are supposed to pay them more because f~~~logic and still the femiloonies harp about how black is white.

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