Voting is hard for me

[SilverstoneParticipant 133]

I’m only 22, but my political views have changed drastically over the past couple years. For me, politics are up there with talking about religion, it’s just not something that I like to talk about. But, I’ll lay it out on the line, some of my beliefs, and why voting is so hard for me.

Jesse Ventura, despite being somewhat of a hack sometimes, has some very good words of wisdom. He said politics are like a choice between Coke and Pepsi. And that’s largely true. My biggest problem is that I want a nice rootbeer instead. And more often than not, I’m 50-50 but it doesn’t seem to matter as much because nobody seems to keep their word once they get elected between the lobbyists and all the money being thrown around.

Is it possible to believe in gay rights and firmly in the second amendment?

is it possible to believe in forcing people to take p~~~ tests for welfare and also believe it could be expanded?

Is it possible to be an atheist and believe that other atheists should quit f~~~ing crying about GOD in the pledge of allegiance?

Is it possible to believe in marijuana legalization while also believing in mandatory drug tests?

Because I believe in all those things, and I respect most perspectives in matters. To me, it’s always been live and let live, and so long as you don’t cause anyone harm, you can do whatever you want. Libertarian I think it’s called. But it either seems you’re in one camp or another. You are all column A or all column B. Not only do I think I’m a little of both, but I think that I’m a little of column C as well.

I know it can be a fiery topic, fellas, but do any of you have the same problem? Where no one really represent you in politics? I’m very respectful and appreciative of other perspectives, and I’m not trying to get into a political debate, but I have trouble with it every time a vote comes around, and with the new presidential campaign, it’s all out again.

Is it best to pick the candidate who most closely aligns with your own viewpoints? But when they end up breaking their word, it’s almost worse than just abstaining from the process.

Any thoughts are appreciated guys.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

“Voting” is just: giving consent to be governed.

Silverstone wrote:

For me, politics are up there with talking about religion, it’s just not something that I like to talk abou

My Dad gave me that advice: “Never discuss politics or religion with anyone”.
I didn’t quite understand why at the time…. but at the time I was 17.
I understand it perfectly now.

“Voting” is just: giving consent to be governed.

They do not have my consent. That makes politics “rape”.

And in case I didn’t say it aleady…. welcome to the forums.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Government is a criminal gang. It’s the best organized and best led gang in the world. Its function, like all criminal gangs, is to extract money and labor from the civil population.

The trouble is, government is a preferred alternative to mere anarchy.

But wait! Our troubles are not over! The Western World is in the unhappy position of having both oppressive governments — police states, really — and near-anarchy. This is the mix that has brought down entire cultures throughout history.

@silverstone, my answers to your original question are:

First, I always vote. I vote against the criminal bosses I dislike the most, without regard to their political party or campaign promises.
Second, “Yes” to all your “is it possible” questions. Holding two seemingly contradictory thoughts in my mind before breakfast comes easily to me. It takes only a small amount of practice.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

I strongly advocate exercising the vote.  Even if you only vote on the yes/no issues.  I don’t agree about voting being consent. There are parties and candidates that truly favor less government, but in an institutionalized two party system, it’s hard for them to compete.  If there are issues you want to see action on, sign and support ballot initiatives for them. Also, push for inclusion of 3rd parties and register as an Independent. Vote for and write in candidates you favor. I would also support radical initiatives such as the right to self-vote or delegate my vote in representative bodies.  What I mean by that, I should be able to delegate my vote to a party or individual. Then, every time Congress or my State legislature votes, they vote and their vote counts fractionally relative to total votes cast in my district. There are many other proportional representation systems that give a say rather than the winner-take-all scheme we use to elect crooks presently.

 

[martygParticipant 103]

Here is a video that explains why yours and everybody else’s vote is completely and utterly irrelevant.

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