Virginity

[BrokeCollegeStudentParticipant 73]

I was just wondering if it is even worth losing your virginity. I’m still a virgin since I’m still kinda young (late teens), and sort of an introvert (if I do talk it’s about technology).  I may want to lose it but I feel like I may not be good enough  to society’s standards and want no strings attached.  What does it feel like and  am I less of a “man” if I still am one?

[EdogParticipant 254]

Does it look like society is fit to tell you what you should be doing? C’mon. You already know that’s not right. You determine your own self-worth. If you are deferring to society to determine it for you, then you’re already heading the wrong way.

 

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Take 5 minutes out of your life and listen to this video. Better yet, listen twice.
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/video/women-over-the-hill/

Everybody is born a virgin, Matt. There is no shame in it. There is also no bonus in NOT being one. There is also no bonus or special recognition for women who ARE. The only thing a woman has to do to remain a virgin is NOT have sex. You don’t celebrate someone for NOT doing something, just like you don’t get extra points for NOT breaking the law or going to prison.

I may want to lose it but I feel like I may not be good enough to society’s standards and want no strings attached.

There is a critical thinking flaw in that sentence…. do you know what it is?
Read it again and see if you can pick it out.

“I feel like I may not be good enough “

Would it surprise you to know that you have been CONDITIONED to think like that? That you’re “not good enough”. You already mentioned your feminist school teachers, and if there is one thing female teachers do BEST, it’s trying to bring *the best* out of you by telling you that you’re “not good enough”. If you hear it often enough, you will believe it. So learn to spot it, and recognize it for what it is. THEY THRIVE of cultivating this insecurity in you. They WANT you to feel inadequate. The system THRIVES off it. They want you to be afraid. Afraid of being alone. Afraid of being a virgin. Afraid of not continuing to have sex after you’re no longer a virgin. Afraid of not being handsome or rich enough. Afraid of not going bald. Of not being muscular. You know what I’m talking about.

“I feel like I may not be good enough “

Doesn’t matter. Until a girl is good enough for YOU, that s~~~ doesn’t matter. The only thing you need to concern yourself with… is she “good enough” for ME. And then you will being setting your own standards. Instead of allowing others to set them for you. “Is she good enough for ME?” is all that matters. Until she makes an effort to mean something to you, her approval means nothing to you.

…. and that’s how you make sure their DIS-approval means nothing to you too.

Nobody else gets to decide if you’re a “man”. It’s not an opinion. How awesome is that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Dude. I was MGTOW since I was born. This was like the ancient times.Then I fell in love and lost virginity. All my MGTOW knowledge was erased from my brain completely once that happened! After LTR and a marriage at 36 – here I am coming back to square one.

IMO first sexual partners create so much turmoil in your psyche that not falling in love should be your main priority. You need to loose virginity. Why? Because you want to achieve no emotional attachment to any future bitch. Your first sexual conquests are just like a first time trying some drug – YOU GETS F~~~ED UP and forget all MGTOW “nonsense” (like I did).
Therefore – use only professionals as your first sexual conquests. This way you won’t be phased and do anything stupid. Learn to see women as bitches.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BrokeCollegeStudentParticipant 73]

Thanks guys, I just don’t really understand those social cues on why it’s  a big part. My teachers make me question myself everyday, but realizing that  they blame me for holding them back in their endeavors makes me kinda smile cause it supposedly seems i’m doing a great job. I look to society to atleast try to fit in since i Feel like i have no friend but, this forums so far makes me feel i’m wanted and i’m not the only one who shares this opinion on life, etc.

[EdogParticipant 254]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

Thanks guys, I just don’t really understand those social cues on why it’s a big part. My teachers make me question myself everyday, but realizing that they blame me for holding them back in their endeavors makes me kinda smile cause it supposedly seems i’m doing a great job. I look to society to atleast try to fit in since i Feel like i have no friend but, this forums so far makes me feel i’m wanted and i’m not the only one who shares this opinion on life, etc.

If you want to fit into society, you’re going to have to conform to it. That’s why we all went our own way. We all saw that it wasn’t us, but society that is screwed up. A few red pills a day will keep the delusions away. Eat enough of them, and you’ll be putting your teachers in the corner by showing them what is real as opposed to what is taught.

[BrokeCollegeStudentParticipant 73]

I don’t need women to tell me how great I  am or not.  If I’m content/happy with myself and my career choice even though it may not earn a lot of money I will be golden. Why the f~~~ would I want to work/save for all my s~~~ if a woman is going to at least take half of it? Made me realize that even though my dad is not the best, he cares about me and has to put up with a lot of s~~~

[Anonymous 12]

I lost my virginity to an escort at 17. The reason I chose this option was because like you I am quiet and reserved, I was worried about the bulls~~~ of dealing with women and I had never had a girlfriend either so I was worried about what to do etc.

Should you lose your virginity? It really depends, if it is bothering you and taking up a lot of mind space then I would say yes go ahead but do it wisely pay if it’s legal where you are, you will get a controlled environment if nothing else and if you tell the prostitute that it is your first time she might be understanding, I sort of vaguely tried to tell mine it was my first time but she didn’t believe me/misunderstood.

Will you feel more like a man once losing it? No but you will see sex for the huge non event it is and that can be really cathartic as you will no longer worry about it as much. The day after I lost mine I was out and about and kept thinking everyone was looking me as if I was different, I wasn’t any different and no one notices because there is nothing to notice.

I hope that helps, just make up your own mind and do what is right for you. But do it wisely if you do decide to go down the paying for it route than go to a brothel or hire an escort. Don’t do the street walker thing.

 

[BrokeCollegeStudentParticipant 73]

@Morlock I totally get it now. Sex isn’t on my mind 24/7 maybe once every two days but it seems everyday people make a huge deal of it . I asked if it makes me less of a man due to films like the 40 year old virgin but his life seemed kickass before he got laid/married

 

[EdogParticipant 254]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

I asked if it makes me less of a man due to films like the 40 year old virgin but his life seemed kickass before he got laid/married

It’s a MOVIE! It’s a part of the programming! They ended the movie. They didn’t show you the part where he opens the stereo store, works his ass off for the next decade providing for her and the two girls and saving as much money as he could along the way, and then she divorces him and takes half his s~~~.

[BrokeCollegeStudentParticipant 73]

Edog wrote:

mattj2667 wrote:

I asked if it makes me less of a man due to films like the 40 year old virgin but his life seemed kickass before he got laid/married

It’s a MOVIE! It’s a part of the programming! They ended the movie. They didn’t show you the part where he opens the stereo store, works his ass off for the next decade providing for her and the two girls and saving as much money as he could along the way, and then she divorces him and takes half his s~~~.

That’s spot on man xD. Should have stayed to himself would of been a lot easier and not some time hectic and hardwork to provide. I would’ve told her to f~~~ off if she wanted to sell my s~~~. No pussy is worth that

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

It’s not big deal, it’s that they are just addicts. When I lost my virginity it wasn’t mind blowing or anything in fact it sucked really bad. It’s not what it seemed.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I was very fortunate to lose my virginity with a virgin. That was incredible.
Two month in I was f~~~ing her anywhere, I was f~~~ing her in the ass at hotel’s rooftop in Spain
I was 18, she was 17. We had a relationship for about a year, but it didn’t last because her and her parents had an idea that a first love would never work out. It was devastating to me

I f~~~ed her again at my 25th bd. And got over it

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[RoyDalParticipant]

Edog wrote:

It’s a MOVIE! It’s a part of the programming! They ended the movie. They didn’t show you the part where he opens the stereo store, works his ass off for the next decade providing for her and the two girls and saving as much money as he could along the way, and then she divorces him and takes half his s~~~.

Yep!!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

I’m gonna try a different tack here.

Society has definitely programmed you (& us all), Matt, regarding virginity, but the question still remains, does it mean anything to you? Is it just a burden to be shed, or something you’re ashamed of, a barrier or milestone to get past, or is it something important you want to do right (that is, experience as something special)? The Canuck and Morlock are right, once you start having regular sex you’ll see how overblown it is, but you only get one first time. I “saved myself for marriage”, and when the time came (after the reception) I was so drunk I had to fantisize about the singers in the band just to perform. You make your choices and you live with them. Whatever you do, do it on your own terms: don’t leave yourself open to STDs / pregnancy on the one hand, or some girl holding your deflowering over you on the other.

One of the best descriptions of your predicamtn can be found, imho, in Ferris Beuller:

Cameron has never been in love – at least, nobody’s ever been in love with him. If things don’t change for him, he’s gonna marry the first girl he lays, and she’s gonna treat him like s~~~, because she will have given him what he has built up in his mind as the end-all, be-all of human existence. She won’t respect him, ’cause you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass.

Go your own way, but don’t be Cameron.

 

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I thing I know women hate asexual men. There was a guy on plenty of fish forums claiming he was MGTOW and asexual. That alone got him a lot of hate. When a guy has no interest having sex with a woman she has ZERO power.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Anonymous 12]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

@Morlock I totally get it now. Sex isn’t on my mind 24/7 maybe once every two days but it seems everyday people make a huge deal of it . I asked if it makes me less of a man due to films like the 40 year old virgin but his life seemed kickass before he got laid/married

Happy to help!

Honestly it is just macho bulls~~~ to make sure that we keep chasing pussy and turning the economy over by spending up big on dinners, drinks etc in the hopes of getting some tail.

I agree, the 40 y.o Virgin was quite happy before women/sex, once he got one she proceeded to take away everything in his life that he loved most and made him a slave to pussy/love as well.

When/If you do have sex your first thought as you slide yourself in will be “Yeah, it’s nice, but is this it” lol

 

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

I was just wondering if it is even worth losing your virginity. I’m still a virgin since I’m still kinda young (late teens), and sort of an introvert (if I do talk it’s about technology). I may want to lose it but I feel like I may not be good enough to society’s standards and want no strings attached. What does it feel like and am I less of a “man” if I still am one?

Sex is just one experience, one that gets immensely overrated by society, and hyped up beyond belief for a ton of reasons.  It is made into a measure of manhood, showing your character to “man up”, showing you as healthy and a dozen of other BS reasons they give you.  I recall one guy say to me, “You couldn’t even find a woman to give you a mercy f’k?” as if my virginity were a plague.

Here is a slight reframing of your view on virginity.  You speak of it as something you “lose” like a bad habit or a curse.  How about reframing that as something of value you “spend”?  When you happen to find a woman worth your time, then maybe you can spend your virginity on her.  Until then, unless you have out of bound hormones, stop worrying about it.   It is just something you hadn’t done before.

On the most basic level, it is your manhood getting stimulated until it ejaculates in a woman.  That is sex.  Anything else from it is for a lot more, but that isn’t just about virginity.

In short, just work on yourself, and don’t worry about it.  Avoid anyone who gives you grief over it.  You have a bunch of time now.  I would say you are best off trying to get your stuff together.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

I totally get it now. Sex isn’t on my mind 24/7 maybe once every two days but it seems everyday people make a huge deal of it . I asked if it makes me less of a man due to films like the 40 year old virgin but his life seemed kickass before he got laid/married

Well man, you seem to be well on your way to get it. At the end of the day the whole of society makes it a paradox you see..? On the one hand sex is totally overrated whilst on the other hand it’s kinda trival. And now it is your call to choose what fits you best. Women do it all the time and if there truly is something of an “equality” between the sexes then why the s~~~ shouldn’t we as men have the same rights to interpretations in that regard, huh..? Why not..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

I feel like I may not be good enough to society’s standards

F~~~ society.

What has society ever done for you?

It’s all marketing bulls~~~. Loss of male virginity only matters to people who want to invent some artificial value for sex. So they can charge a hefty price for it. Don’t fall for the scam.

Don’t give a figurative f~~~ about never having given a literal f~~~.

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