US-Israel attack on Syria seen as imminent

[Y_Participant 4591]

US-Israel attack on Syria seen as imminent

[Y : Late Tuesday 10th April 2018 [1]

Russia has vetoed a US-sponsored resolution on the alleged chemical incident in Syria in a UN Security Council vote. The draft was designed to fail and thus “justify” unauthorized action in Syria, Russia’s UN envoy said.

“If you made a decision to carry out an illegal military endeavour, we hope that you will come to your senses. You will be responsible for it yourselves,” Russia’s envoy to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, warned.

The US-sponsored resolution has received 12 votes in favor, two against and one abstention. As Russia used its veto right, the resolution was not adopted. The Russian-sponsored resolution did not get the minimum nine votes needed to pass, with six votes for, seven against and two abstentions.

-Y]

The Saker Blog
AngloZionist options (intermediate report) UPDATED [2]

An AngloZionist attack on Syria appears to be inevitable and imminent. There is always a chance of a major pushback from some putative mentally sane, realistic and patriotic generals in the Pentagon, but I am not holding my breath (I asked two of my best informed friends about that, they both told me to forget about it).

Counting on those who have made a life obeying orders to suddenly refuse one, and wreck their career in the process, is naive. Besides, most of what we now have at the Pentagon are not Admiral Fallon types, but rather the same “an ass-kissing little chickens~~~” type à la Petraeus.

They might not push for a confrontation with Russia, but they will do what they are told to. The commander of CENTCOM recently said just that (“we will do what we are told“).

However, what kind of attack options the US Neocons and their Israeli pals will chose is probably what is being debated right now. Here are the basic options

1) A repeat of last year’s attack on the Syrian Air Force base in Shayrat. That would be by far the best option and that would allow the Neocons a face-saving, even if entirely symbolic, “look how tough we are” option.

They might as well strike the same T4 base the Israelis did a few days ago, just with more missiles. And, just to make this look all very “democratic” they might ask the French, Brits or Israelis to participate in that attack.

2) It is too late, militarily speaking, to try to reverse the situation on the ground, but hitting more Syrian Air Force bases, communication nodes, air defenses, etc. is definitely an option.

Following such an attack, the US allies on the ground (the “good” and the “bad” terrorists) would go on the offensive and the Syrians and their allies would struggle to “plug the wholes” thus created. That would not fundamentally change the outcome, but would prolong the chaos and associated bloodbath.

3) Attack the Iranians. This is a grand favorite with the Israelis and the Neocons, but it is also a much risker option because if the attack is successful, the Iranians would have a huge number of potential US targets to chose from to retaliate, as would Hezbollah.

Still, that would placate the Iran-haters, at least temporarily, and it would allow Trump to show how “tough” and “great” a guy he is.

4) A full scale attack on the Syrian military and on the government (including Presidential facilities). We are talking about hundreds of cruise missiles in the first wave.

Targets would include not only purely military targets (ammo dumps, troop concentrations, etc.) but also the “regime support infrastructure”, i.e. civilians and that which makes civilian life possible: power plants, water purification, communications, bridges, roads, ports, schools and hospitals (“camouflaged regime objectives”) etc.

Basically, that is what the US/EU/NATO did to Serbia and what the Israelis have done many times to Lebanon: murder as many civilians as possible to make them pay for supporting the “Animal Assad”.

5) A deliberate attack on Russian and Iranian positions in Syria to “punish” them for supporting “Animal Assad’s” chemical attacks.

Of course, a combination of the options above are possible. Roughly speaking options 1, 2 and 3 might (conditional) remain manageable. Only option 1 is (relatively) safe. Options 4 and 5 are absolutely insane and are likely to result in an extremely dangerous escalation.

Let’s look at it from another point of view.

What would be the goal of a AngloZionist attack?

I think that we can all agree that nobody seriously believes that a actual chemical attack took place and that everybody knows that this is a (poorly) staged false flag predicted by both Nikki Haley and the Russians weeks ago.

As for a full-scale reversal of the outcome in Syria or a reconquista by US/NATO, these are not militarily speaking realistic options.

So then what is the point?

1) Internal US politics: Trump wants to appease the Neocons and looks “tough”.

2) Make the Syrians, Iranians and Russians pay for defeating the “good” and “bad” terrorists.

3) Appease the always bloodthirsty Israelis and create a nice pretext to renege on the nuclear deal with Iran.

4) The need to act on the rhetoric (that one is often ignored, but the fact is that when a regime spews a constant stream of paranoid and hate-filled nonsense about another country, it eventually has to do something about it. Speaking of “Animal Assad” and do nothing about him just does not look good for The Donald).

5) Some hope to actually kill Assad (unlikely, the integrated Russian-Syrian air defenses will warn him of the attack).

6) Re-establish, by means of example, that the USA is still the biggest and baddest guy out there and that neither Iran nor Russia can do anything about it. Scare Russia and Iran into submission (I know, this is a stupid notion, but Neocons are not very bright!).

I think that we should not over-intellectualize all this. Frankly, I don’t think that the folks in the White House are very bright and that their level of planning is roughly similar to “if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail”.

What they have is a mental hammer: the desire to lash out, to strike, to hurt, to punish. Just hatred and infinite arrogance.

As to where and how the hammer will strike – your guess is as good as mine.

Attempting to predict the actions of delusional psychopaths is an exercise in futility.

Besides, we will find out very soon.

The Saker

Citation
[1] https://www.rt.com/news/423751-un-syria-resolutions-vote/
[2] http://thesaker.is/anglozionist-options-intermediate-report/

[It’sallbsParticipant]

I suspect a large scale US and UK attack on Syria with out the blessing of the UN is coming within the next few weeks.

UK will probably use RAF Akrotiri on Cyprus as the base.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5598071/Tony-Blair-backs-military-action-Syria-suggests-Theresa-strikes-without-vote.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

The article makes a number of good points but the key point is: what purpose is served by an attack? I know there are several listed but none of those are in the arena of “realpolitik”. They are all just posturing moves. The plain facts are:

The civil war is all but done and Assad has won;
He is not leaving power any time soon;
He is not going to be overthrown;
Our “good” terrorists have lost–plain and simple;
The situation on the ground is not going to change very much;

Any attack now is just p~~~ing in the wind and that will be obvious to everyone.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

They tried to do it covertly with “Freedom Fighters” but that didn’t work. Now they have to do it the old fashioned way with an invading army.

Say what you like about “Tin Foil Hat” wearing conspiracy theorists, but seems like they actually know what’s going on and who’s behind it all.

Not in my Name!

It's Time to get Wise

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

It’sallbs wrote:

I suspect a large scale US and UK attack on Syria with out the blessing of the UN is coming within the next few weeks.

While this is obviously a way to get a war between the U.S. and Russia, no one is talking about how China will be dragged into the fight by backing Russia.

China will not allow its primary energy importer (Russia) to be destroyed.

Also, China has a land route through Pakistan and Iran into the Middle East that sidesteps the U.S. navy.

The warmongers in Israel want to start World War III because they are about to lose control of Israel in the next election in Israel.

PM Netanyahu needs a war to keep himself out of jail.

Israel already tried a year ago to invade Syria on their own and they got asses handed to them.

In addition, Russia has had plenty of time place anti-aircraft defenses in Syria. This includes jamming U.S. drones: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-10/russia-jamming-us-drones-syria

If you want to know what the U.S. chances are in a war with Russia is, read about what happened to the USS Donald Cook cruiser back 2014: https://www.infowars.com/russians-disable-u-s-guided-missile-destroyer/

Soon after the incident the command staff of the Donald Cook demanded to be reassigned or resign.

[Y_Participant 4591]

PistolPete wrote:

The article makes a number of good points but the key point is: what purpose is served by an attack? I know there are several listed but none of those are in the arena of “realpolitik”. They are all just posturing moves. The plain facts are:

1. The US is going in on the orders from Israel – this is what I understand.
2. The Israeli war cabinet cannot take the fact they have lost – they do not need a reason now.
3. After what is happening in Gaza now – I don’t think they are human or sane anymore.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Our “good” terrorists have lost–plain and simple;

Which is precisely why they will now deploy Typhoons from Akrotiri to bomb them.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[UntamedParticipant]

Y_ wrote:

2) It is too late, militarily speaking, to try to reverse the situation on the ground, but hitting more Syrian Air Force bases, communication nodes, air defenses, etc. is definitely an option.

^That^
For this:

Y_ wrote:

4) The need to act on the rhetoric (that one is often ignored, but the fact is that when a regime spews a constant stream of paranoid and hate-filled nonsense about another country, it eventually has to do something about it. Speaking of “Animal Assad” and do nothing about him just does not look good for The Donald).

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
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[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Israel already tried a year ago to invade Syria on their own and they get asses handed to them.

I heard an F22 got shot down.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Y_Participant 4591]

It’sallbs wrote:

I suspect a large scale US and UK attack on Syria with out the blessing of the UN is coming within the next few weeks.

it may be a lot sooner. The US do not want Russia to send in reinforcements or give Assad time to prepare. Most likely it will start when the new carrier group arrives.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

It’sallbs wrote:

Faust For Science wrote:

Israel already tried a year ago to invade Syria on their own and they get asses handed to them.

I heard an F22 got shot down.

No. That was a month ago.

A year ago, Israel made a big to do they were going to invade Syria. There was a complete media blackout afterward: https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-going-war-syria-fight-163719157.html

Given the current situation, it is save to assume that Israel’s invasion of Syria was defeated.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Well, it is a war economy.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

bigboy83 wrote:

Well, it is a war economy.

No. The term “economy” means the wealth is reinvest into where the money comes from. Wealth flows one way with the MIC. Out of the pockets of the unwilling American people and into the coffers of foreign globalists.

[Y_Participant 4591]

A really good situational war map – real time

https://syria.liveuamap.com/

[It’sallbsParticipant]

https://www.davidicke.com/article/468284/flashback-daily-mail-headline-1-29-13-us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-blame-assads-regime

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Y_ wrote:

A really good situational war map – real time

https://syria.liveuamap.com/

Notice the increased activity at RAF Akrotiri wouldn’t surprisse me if this kicked off before the end of the weak.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

It’sallbs wrote:

https://www.davidicke.com/article/468284/flashback-daily-mail-headline-1-29-13-us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-blame-assads-regime

The reason that did not happen was the top U.S. military leadership told Obama “no”. Many of these officers were then forces to resign.

A few years later, these same officers convince Donald Trump to run for president.

I am not sure what President Trump is planning. Between the domestic and foreign issues, it seems President Trump is playing the world biggest game of chicken, or political Russian roulette, or both at the same time.

It is possible President Trump would be happy is Assad resigned and control of Syria was turned over to Russia. That would defuse the situation and royally upset those whom are dragging the U.S. into this conflict.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

There are five wild cards in this situation on the various sides. Four of the wild cards have leaderships that are weakened and need an outside distraction. Those four wild cards are Turkey, the UK, France, and Israel.

One could accuse President Trump of needing an outside distraction, but his support from his political base is at an all time high, with the investigations against President Trump make him be viewed as a victim of a witchhunt by his supporters. A war with Syria would politically hurt President Trump with his political base.

The fifth wild card is China. China is already making diplomatic and military inroads into the Middle East.

What happens next might be ultimately decided through back channels by China.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

This is a great video and I especially want you to pay attention to what is said starting about 19:15, the roll of women in preparing youths through our education system to blindly accept propaganda!

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