Upside-down & Backwards

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  • #659820
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    Raz
    Raz
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    Raised by only my mom, I learned everything wrong, upside down and backwards.
    I’m in my 40’s, just now waking up to the realities of what the red pill actually is/does.
    I have lived all my life at the whims of women, one or another, usually many simultaneously (wife, mother-in-law, aunt, grandma, etc…).
    I was a functioning alcoholic until a few years ago, getting my head clear enabled me to wake up.
    It has been a daunting process, but there are many successes I can and do enjoy.

    I was on a very dark path, an old friend checked himself out…we had similar lives. This was the main catalyst to improve myself. I had thought my wife would be thrilled at my sobriety, my drinking was her major complaint. My drinking was all of our problems, if you asked her, but my sobriety made things much worse. She was even more distant or abrasive, and lazy.
    S~~~ was a mess already, then I start seeing clues to all kinds of crazy s~~~. Financial shenanigans, lying about me to friends and family, and as if dropped from the sky, FB messages from 4 years prior leaking into my iPhone from a women telling me my wife is f~~~ing her husband. I am dumbfounded by these revelations, but smart enough to just hold these cards and continue observing. More and more piles up until I finally decide to talk to her about what I know, what I am going to do about it, and why (we have two teenagers). I was expecting some difficult s~~~ but…

    She went entirely blackhearted and started behaving very erratically, it was an other-wordly experience that is designed to throw dysfunctional men into a tailspin, except I wasn’t dysfunctional enough any longer, so I went calm and observed. Many people will fall for the bait and end up with a restraining order, trespassed out of their own home. Many would keep chasing their phantoms.
    I instead, would throw a little fuel on her fire when she wasn’t paying attention by abruptly but calmly talking about her wrongdoings and how we were going to fix it. After 7 days of this, she moved out, without the kids, just left. The divorce is very close to final, I have legal custody, though we share 50/50.
    My son’s attitude toward me is shifting and unpredictable, this indicates she is poisoning his mind.
    My daughter is doing really good, she is a special case…she knows what I am.
    Her mother trapped me with this pregnancy years ago, I experienced the birth of my child and it changed and deepened my heart.
    We found out after she was a year old that she is not biologically mine.
    I wasn’t going to leave, she’s my beautiful little girl, learning to walk and talk…
    I still to this day doubt I will ever know who her father is. I know it doesn’t really matter, it just bothers me.

    I am glad I stayed for a few reasons, my kids and feeling as though I am breaking a cycle.
    If I would have left, their lives would be very different right now.

    If I had to pick one thing to share as the biggest lesson I learned through all this: calm – remain f~~~ing calm

    I still have a long way to go, although I can see pretty damn clear now, its still not in real time.
    Just the other day I had to face another epiphany that had been staring at me:

    An old friend of my X’s (who is also living a cleaner life now) said to me,
    “We all had drunken husbands and boyfriends cuz they’re easier to manipulate”
    That was in March,…7 months later I am just now seeing the significance of her including the word “easier”…

    …Bitches were under-achievers…

    Its f~~~ing hard to nutshell all the crazy thats between the lines here, my own madness a big contributor, I know.
    I’m just happy to be really living my life finally, doing right for my kids with less interference and getting my s~~~ together.

    Thank you to MGTOW and this site. Very well done and a service to man.

    …and Bill Burr, that guy woke me up too, now somebody should warn him…

    #659846
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    Blade
    blade
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    Welcome brother i hope you enjoy the site

    THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

    #659854
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    Anonymous
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    Paternity fraud, whacko wife, single mother, wow, you have all the symptoms of exposure to modern women!

    I count my blessings when reading stories like yours living in my femnuclear fallout shelter!

    Welcome to the bunker!

    #659954

    Anonymous
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    Welcome home, Raz
    Beer’s in the fridge

    #659960

    Anonymous
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    Congratulations on your sobriety.
    You are a very generous and kind hearted Man.

    Welcome Raz!!!

    #659975
    Carnage
    Carnage
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    22113

    Welcome on board soldier.

    You did enough, take a rest.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #659981
    The Batman 2020
    The Batman 2020
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    Welcome. You dodged bullets like NEO

    Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

    #660008
    The Manipulated Man
    The Manipulated Man
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    Hello Raz,

    Appreciate your Introduction.

    I have been where you are at and I understand your situation.

    Here is a link that summarizes my marriage and the succeeding RelationS~~~S:

    /forums/topic/an-honest-love-letter/

    ….She went entirely blackhearted and started behaving very erratically, it was an other-wordly experience ….

    Here is a link to a Post about how out of control and shameless woman are today. Feel free to comment there:

    /forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/

    Nevertheless, you have found a gold mine here. So, keep digging.

    Here is a link to help you avoid any problem you may have as a newcomer to this web site:

    /forums/topic/list-of-unacceptable-blue-pill-baggage/

    Here are some tips to help develop your “Introduction” which can be improved by adding more about yourself any time in the reply box below:

    A good Introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and something about your actions as a man. The goal is for the newcomer to establish his Bonafides as a man on the MGTOW Road.

    Note: You Red Pill descriptions are excellent and your Lessons Learned are right on the mark.

    However, without giving away specifics where others can identify you, kindly provide some Bonafides like what you are doing with YOUR life such as:

    Work situation?

    Education/ Training?

    Hobbies?

    What kind of fun things do YOU do?

    Any future projects/ goals after your divorce?

    What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

    #660040
    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    At the very least in the end you can see.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #660044
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    Smee
    Smee
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    Hi Raz,
    about your comment –
    “We found out after she was a year old that she is not biologically mine.
    I wasn’t going to leave, she’s my beautiful little girl, learning to walk and talk…
    I still to this day doubt I will ever know who her father is. I know it doesn’t really matter, it just bothers me.”

    Having seen this situation before, I’d like to offer a little insight.

    The reason it ‘bothers’ you is actually based on real concerns that you haven’t had time to process yet.

    What I’m about to say may seem hard, but remember the process of rebuilding you’re going through. None of this is your doing or responsibility, it all lands on her back. Her actions, no-one elses.

    The ‘bother’ comes from unconscious processing your mind is doing. It is basically filing things away for you to work on later.

    The ‘other’ daddy is in fact very important.
    God forbid, but if your little angel needs genetic material, information for biological, medical issues, then she needs to know who he is and how to contact him.
    In later life when she meets some guy and feels this incredibly strong bond with him, it could be he’s her brother and we know that would not end well.

    You have processed these thoughts, but put them on a back burner because you’re busy surviving and rebuilding your life. This is commendable on all fronts.

    But trust me, back burner only. When you have finished rebuilding, you will come back to these for your daughters benefit and ease of mind.

    It may seem hurtful and wrong that you will have to ‘give up’ your primary role for her, to some ‘chad’ who is not there.
    You may not know the full story, and neither may he.
    You may at some point even become friends with him.

    What you won’t do, is what her Mother did: lie and potentially put her medical, mental and moral welfare at risk to save her own reputation.

    What you are currently doing shows you to be a man with a mans instinct to protect and nurture.
    I don’t know if I could have the strength to do what you are doing and I applaud all your efforts.
    This ‘bitch’ is of the worst cut of modern women, she only thinks of herself and what she can get out of it all.
    They even happily kill and/or put their own children at risk, just to protect their own believed perception of their good character.

    Never thought I’d be here and feeling this way, but the new chant should be ‘Go Men !’, ‘cos the ladies ain’t getting it done.

    So Raz my brother, Go Man !
    Because you are and your little Angel is gonna love you till you die for it,
    Smee

    Smee Again

    #660358
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    Raz
    Raz
    Participant
    35

    Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. I half expected to get kicked around a bit, and that may still happen, but it matters not.

    I was blind about the realities for so long, that I was processing everything from a wrong headed perspective, but I have always had a sharp mind.
    There are LOTS of red pills to reflect now that my perspective is corrected.

    Big Red Pill: Women have convinced society that they need/want sex less, transforming it into a commodity through weak-willed men that they have raised to accept and perpetuate the lie, thereby usurping natural selection in the process.

    Here is a thought I had last night while reflecting on my religious upbringing and the parable of original sin;

    Important information missing from the bible: What did Adam do to make Eve stray toward the tree of knowledge?
    What was Eve’s rationale for the original sin?…before the serpent even spoke to her, why was she receptive to ANY alternative message?
    …and from a STRANGER, no less…
    What did Adam do!?!?

    (yes, I am antagonizing)

    Positives in my life:
    I have a good work ethic.
    I have conquered alcohol.
    I have a solid career and skill set.
    My eyes are open.
    I have a plan.

    Work still to do:
    Shutting the f~~~ up.
    Spotting manipulators.
    Trusting too easily.

    There are some sensitive things I have come to know
    through my extended exposure to gaggles of lower class bitches
    and thier extended control structures and families.
    I have seen evidence and patterns of abuse and extortion on many levels.
    Its very ugly, and I sometimes wonder if some of their victims fear
    that I would expose them. Its f~~~ing sketchy, how deluded most people are, and willingly.
    Its exactly a microcosm of this hollywood s~~~ coming out, people are ashamed of their skeletons.
    Some people have skeletons that would cost them dearly…
    …I just want to get on with my life.

    I need to build an entirely new network.

    Thanks again for the support and insights.

    #660417
    2icebitten
    2icebitten
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    147

    Welcome Raz, thanks for sharing your story.

    My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor, and some style. - Maya Angelou

    #661680
    Bstoff
    bstoff
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    Welcome Raz.

    You’re story is a good lesson to the young lurkers.
    Take heed, guys, it’s reality.
    Not too different from my first marriage when I married as a young, dumb and full of cum.
    Does your daughter know the situation? If not, It might be a good idea to let her know now in the nicest way possible.
    Just my 3 cents.

    #661909
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    Raz
    Raz
    Participant
    35

    my daughter knows now…things are pretty good, considering;

    My X dropped it in her lap last year when it became evident I was no longer a willing host.
    My X then told me that our daughter had approached her with “suspicions”.

    Through ambiguous questioning I discovered how my ex was attempting to use this as leverage also.
    Her own flesh and blood, used as a tool to falsify her reputation and further manipulation.

    Piece of s~~~.

    #662038
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    Oldschool
    Oldschool
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    2481

    Welcome home Raz, hope to hear more from you in the forums.

    Get a vasectomy.

    #668104
    Raz
    Raz
    Participant
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    I must humbly attempt to redact my comment about warning Bill

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