United Flight 93 remains interred at memorial site

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

I have to call out BS reported in the mainstream media when I see it. I’m sure this thread will end up mostly about 9-11 conspiracies, which is cool with me. I 100% believe that this flight was shot down by the US Airforce under direct orders from President Bush and the hero story was fabricated after the fact to turn then into martyrs. I don’t even necessarily disagree with the President’s order. America was under attack. The aircraft was essentially a missile which was shot down over American airspace. Fair enough.

Now, let’s pretend that the official story is true. This article states the following:

“What that symbolizes is the amazing courage of not only the flight attendants but all the individuals on Flight 93, who took that call to action,” Clark said. “It’s such a powerful symbol of what these men and women did that morning.”

Lol. Exactly how many women charged the terrorists? Oh…zero.

They always slip in the words “and women” so they can piggy back on the bravery of men. Always.

Remnants of Flight 93 wreckage to be buried at memorial

The answer, is no.

[Anonymous 42]

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

That’s the thing that blows me away. Where are all the families of flight 93? you never here about them.

Might as well right a book and say my grandpa was on that flight. Make millions. Can’t disprove it right?

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[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

If there even was a flight 93, I think that is what happened, they blew it up with a missle. But me personally, I don’t even think there was a flight 93. Just more fabricated horses~~~ by the gubermint. And with that said.

Oh, there was a flight 93. Making up a flight wholesale makes no sense at all brother. It causes immense problems and solves nothing. This flight existed 100%.

The problem is it doesn’t look good when the American military kills its own people. Thus, Todd Beamer “let’s roll”. Oh, and all the brave women too. Don’t forget them. They provided drink service on the flight, and did jack s~~~ when it was hijacked.

Flight 93 to me proves that the American govt didn’t orchestrate this tragedy…at least at the top levels. They shot the f~~~ing plane down, full of their own citizens.

Building 7 is deeply troubling. This could have been a rouge operation by deep state actors, which was opposed by other elements of the govt. The idea that all elements of the govt were in on it isn’t compatible with human nature. There were likely two factions at work here. Life is complicated.

The answer, is no.

[HermitParticipant]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

I have to call out BS reported in the mainstream media when I see it. I’m sure this thread will end up mostly about 9-11 conspiracies, which is cool with me. I 100% believe that this flight was shot down by the US Airforce under direct orders from President Bush and the hero story was fabricated after the fact to turn then into martyrs. I don’t even necessarily disagree with the President’s order. America was under attack. The aircraft was essentially a missile which was shot down over American airspace. Fair enough.

Now, let’s pretend that the official story is true. This article states the following:

“What that symbolizes is the amazing courage of not only the flight attendants but all the individuals on Flight 93, who took that call to action,” Clark said. “It’s such a powerful symbol of what these men and women did that morning.”

Lol. Exactly how many women charged the terrorists? Oh…zero.

They always slip in the words “and women” so they can piggy back on the bravery of men. Always.

Remnants of Flight 93 wreckage to be buried at memorial

I’m interested to know what makes you think it was shot down. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I have no idea. I’ve just always believed the official story and would like to know what evidence leads you to believe it was shot down and why they would think it necessary to fabricate a story to appease the public.

If we actually shot down the jet, I would want to know that truth. The people aboard were not going to reach the ground alive no matter what. Shooting it down would be the best decision.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

@hermit

The US military was caught off guard initially. Flight 93 was exibiting the same erratic behaviour as the other weaponized commercial flights. By this time, the airforce was scrambled and would have pursued the jet as a national security threat. It stands to reason that the air defence systems would have pursued this flight and engaged it. It makes no sense that passengers downed it through heroics.

Which is more likely? Passengers just happened to down it through American heroism…or the military was in full response mode and shot down a national security threat?

I’ll post forensic evidence when I can, which casts major doubt that this was a plane crash. Unfortunately I have to run right now. Will post later.

The answer, is no.

[HermitParticipant]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

@hermit

The US military was caught off guard initially. Flight 93 was exibiting the same erratic behaviour as the other weaponized commercial flights. By this time, the airforce was scrambled and would have pursued the jet as a national security threat. It stands to reason that the air defence systems would have pursued this flight and engaged it. It makes no sense that passengers downed it through heroics.

Which is more likely? Passengers just happened to down it through American heroism…or the military was in full response mode and shot down a national security threat?

I’ll post forensic evidence when I can, which casts major doubt that this was a plane crash. Unfortunately I have to run right now. Will post later.

Yeah, I agree. It does make sense that we would shoot it down. I was just interested in any evidence you have. Looking forward to your next post.

I just don’t understand why they would lie about it. I know some people may be able to handle killing our own citizens to save more lives of our own citizens, but so what? We’ve been sending young Americans to war for a very long time now and many of them do not come back.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

All questions, theories and thoughts on the matter are invariably linked to Building 7 and the fact that liquid thermite was used on the buildings prior to 9/11

They knew an attack was coming and wanted to capitalize on it.

[Anonymous 14]

Hermit wrote:

I’m interested to know what makes you think it was shot down.

Two pilots were awarded medals in a private ceremony at their base.

The decision to shoot it down was ordered by their Commanding Officer, not anyone from higher up. I regret that I do not have a link to support this, it’s been a long time..

By sticking to the narrative it was brought down by tuskens with box knives only furthers the initiative for the coming war.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Hermit wrote:

I’m interested to know what makes you think it was shot down.

Two pilots were awarded medals in a private ceremony at their base.

The decision to shoot it down was ordered by their Commanding Officer, not anyone from higher up. I regret that I do not have a link to support this, it’s been a long time..

By sticking to the narrative it was brought down by tuskens with box knives only furthers the initiative for the coming war.

There’s no way that the order came from their commanding officer. The only person who could have ordered these jets to fire on their own citizens was the President. Perhaps not directly, im not sure Bush got on a radio…but it would have to be ordered by the President.

I didn’t know that about the medals. I don’t doubt it one bit. That must have been a bitter day for the pilots.

The answer, is no.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

I want to explore this topic further, but here’s an interesting clip from Rumsfeld who had a slip of the tongue referring to Flight 93 being “shot down”. While it doesn’t strictly prove anything, it’s highly revealing.

The crash site is highly suspicious. It looks nothing like a plane crash. The debris was scattered as much as 8 miles away. This is totally incompatible with a crash, but makes perfect sense if the plane was shot down. So much of this story doesn’t add up.

The answer, is no.

[Anonymous 14]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

There’s no way that the order came from their commanding officer. The only person who could have ordered these jets to fire on their own citizens was the President.

FWIW, Cheney was the one giving orders that day. His orders were to stand down.

[Anonymous 1]

9/11 was a typical “False-Flag.” That’s business as usual with the CIA. Georg H. Bush was the CIA Director for a time. He specialized in this type of Terrorism. In fact one of these Terrorist (Luis Posada Carrilespersonal friend of George H. Bush) recently died.

The CIA planned attacks very similar to 9/11 years prior. Operation Northwoods

Here are some fun facts:

Osama Bin Laden was a CIA operative

Both Bush and Bin Laden belong to The Carlyle Group

Securacom (Marvin Bush’s Company) took over Security for the Wolrd Trade Centers days before. Just in time to install the demolitions, I guess.

[HermitParticipant]

So far, I’ve not seen anything to prove to me that it was shot down. Again, I’m not saying it wasn’t. I’d just like to see strong evidence for either story. Probably won’t see that until decades from now when the truth comes out in some documentary.

The “crash site” did look strange. I would expect a commercial passenger jet hitting the ground would’ve made the site look much different from what it did. That’s the only major thing that makes me doubt the official story.

I’d like to hear from one or two of the family members who were supposed to be talking to the passengers before the crash, even though, if it was shot down, I’m sure they were told or maybe even paid to keep their mouths shut.

The movie, “United 93”, was pretty good. I’d like to see one made with the other scenario where they were shot down.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Anonymous 42]

Flight 93, building 7, controlled demolition. Box girder structure drops all once? Smoking gun, all cleaned up and melted down in China, where else do they do that with evidence before the investigation is done?

The trust is dust blowing in a dirty New York dirty whirlwind.

[VirgilParticipant 970]

Only thing I can really add to this, is the steel beams wouldn’t have to melt, just bend. Once they started bending the building would have been subjected to loads it wasn’t necessarily built for, then all bets are off for the outcome.

Can say eccentric or nonuniform loading can compound effects. A jet in a building that size wouldn’t add a whole lot of weight, but a jet adding that weight and the structure being weakened by fire. That could lead to some interesting results.

Anyway after metal is exposed to that kind of heat and cools it would be brittle and a failure would become inevitable. Would be similar to the metal around a weld, after welding it isn’t quite as strong as before.

The jet though, if it crashed it is unlikely it would throw pieces 8 miles. But if it got shot down and dropping them on approach, that would explain it.

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

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