Uncurl your lip, unfold your arms, and "go your own way"… or don't

[Anonymous 0]

You can’t both have your cake and eat it too. You cannot hold the psychology “I am now going my own way“, and also hold on to the notion that women control how you feel and think. In fact, holding on to resentment and hatred of women is the same as NOT going your own way.

When I had a crappy job a while back, I use to get irritated with co-workers who would drag their feet and complain, instead of helping me get the job done, so we could get the hell out of there…. And so, when they would be complaining about the job and how they didn’t need it, I would say, “Then quit.”. But they never would quit, because they were still emotionally attached to the job.

And it is the same for MGTOW, regarding women. You cannot both spend your time feeling like and thinking you are a victim of women’s power, and also say that you are living life on your own terms.

The way to make a woman or women powerless is to not care… not to go around saying, “Whah, she hurt me, so I don’t care!”. I mean literally having no concern whatsoever for how a women thinks about your choice of life.

The irony of this is that this is what attracts women. Women subconsciously like men who have a dominant presence of not giving a f…. All you have to do to see this in action is to watch groups of men spotting women at a night club. Most men think the dominant male in such a pack of men is the guy who is being loud and “confident” enough to talk to the hot chick; but in reality, the “hot chick” is being hit on all night long, every day of her life, and the true confident male is the one who doesn’t give off the air of begging for her affections. The dominant male is the one who is sitting back and letting it come to him, before he takes action.

And that is the point. The guys that beg are surrendering their power to her. The guys who care the least win, and thus live life on their own terms….

Choosing a MGTOW life isn’t about hating the nature of women, because that IS WHAT IT IS (nature). It is about accepting that WHAT IS, IS– if you will allow me to be bit of a Taoist. Thus, you look at your own nature, admit your nature is to be attracted to all these things that you say p~~~ you off about women, and that you are consciously choosing to no longer be p~~~ed about it…. You move on.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I am in provisional agreement with this. The part I agree with is the “Take responsibility for your own outcomes and get over it.” That’s 99% of what you’re saying here, if I’m reading you correctly.

I do, however, still have some empathy for those of us who are what I would call “aspirational MGTOW” who are not quite yet able to actually do that and need a bit more time cursing the blown tire before being ready to change it.

Aspirational: Have you ever decided at some point in your life that you were going to be a photographer / programmer / astronaut / rock star and started telling people that you were? Obviously you weren’t… it wasn’t really you yet, it was just an aspiration. But “aspiring rapper” doesn’t sound nearly as cool or, honestly, motivate you to achievement nearly as much as saying “I’m MC Monster Truck and my tape is gonna drop in six months so be ready.” Now you’ve got six months to learn how to hold a microphone and fulfill in actuality what you already feel about yourself in your heart.

I believe a lot of us (myself included about three out of seven days of the week) are still aspirational MGTOW. We’re still working on it… and that process of working on it is going to include some pointing out and ranting about the short shrift that men are getting in modern culture.

If I could just drop everything today and go totally ghost this very instant, I would have done so already… but I can’t. I’m not there yet. I’m still in the process of disentangling myself from some deeply seated social programming, not to mention a number of ongoing monthly expenses, that prevent me from dropping my keys into a sewer grate and heading for the hills, literally and metaphorically. But that doesn’t make me any less of a MGTOW in my heart than some Level 5 shadow walker who lives in a national park and hasn’t made a footprint on concrete in 30 years… that guy is just further down the road than I am.

So yeah, suck it up, buttercup… drop a pair and get over all the s~~~ you feel you’ve received at the hands of females. I agree that the friend zone, divorce courts, male disposability and the general Homerization (Simpson, not the Greek) of men in western society are perpetuated by us against ourselves because we’ve been, for the most part, pussy begging simps for way too long. Females only have power over us because we allow them to and it’s time we stopped doing that… but I accept the reality that making that change is not something you can do like simply flicking a switch… so give the fellas a break.

But yeah, guys… the sooner you stop talking about what females are doing and start converting your truck to biodiesel and looking for other dudes to barter with, the better off you’ll be.

[ChromestarParticipant 101]

There isnt a better way to blow off a little steam other than to talk about it. You know I thought you peeps would know better than to try to Get MEN who have been through the s~~~ter and made it back out alive, to ‘Suck it up and Shut the f~~~ up’.

Just because Men of many ages are talking about their past Experiences with the woman they have gotten with in the past, DOES NOT make them weak at all. This makes others AWARE of what is going on around us. Sorry but I see your Post as an attempt to Silence MAN in general.

To me your Psychology is:

• If we MEN are talking about women then that gives them power. Talking about them on a MALE only forum does NOT give them power.
• If we’ve truly have gone our own way then why are you still talking about women? Seriously?

ONE thing you are right about when you said,”<“You cannot both spend your time feeling like and thinking you are a victim of women’s power”

Well thats the whole IDEA of an MGTOW forum, is to wake up those MEN who are currently un-aware of whats going on around them.

And those that have bad experiences, to SHARE their words of wisdom and to Vent.

Those that have been through hell and still are managing to keep their heads and Minds above water, I can say ARE living their lives on their own terms (as you put it). You know… The simple things like coming back from work, and not hearing some dumb lazy bitch moaning and screaming in your freakin ear.

I Cant believe that I have to explain this to you, unless you’re a parasite.

Sorry OP but I’ll be the first to Call BULLS~~~ on your post.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

You have spot on nailed it (once again) Doc Fenderson..!

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Anonymous 42]

Wes you said:
“holding on to resentment and hatred of women is the same as NOT going your own way.”

Animals that have been bitten, and survived, never forget! My chickens grow up unaware of hawks, eagles, foxes, and other predators, one strike on the (flock) and every hen hides from danger above anytime thereafter. The resentment (memory) of the attack cannot ever be erased, it becomes a permanent impression on their minds. The only erase mechanism is death! People are no different!

Doc You said: “I’m still in the process of disentangling myself from some deeply seated social programming”. I agree, It’s a life long process not of our choosing, the choice was already made upon your first step.
“Level 5 shadow walker who lives in a national park and hasn’t made a footprint on concrete in 30 years” I love dirt, the concrete jungle I abandoned is never going to be my home again! I shall live in the woods, the deserts, and the mountains! The cities will eventually burn to the ground, as they have been fot the last 50 years! The cities are burning as I write this post!
“converting your truck to biodiesel”, I’m going much farther than that! I have converted to a wood/plastic/waste-oil hydronic thermal mass boiler, it will heat everything including showers (I love long hot showers). Converting to compressed hydrogen from wood gasification. This will include my cooking stove, and cloths dryer. Wood gasification “compressed” will also run propane carburetors that have been easily modified for hydrogen consumption. Other byproducts include oils, and methanol. They can drop the price of fuel to 32cents a gallon, and maybe, just maybe, I’ll buy some. 32cents a gallon was the original price for my first purchased gallon, It was for my minibike when I was a kid. The mini bike was a salvage. From dozens of engines my older brother purchased from a man, I cobbled a running cast-iron Briggs&Stratton engine from a pile of junk, my only cost was for the clutch and throttle I needed.

Chromestar, You said: “Sorry OP but I’ll be the first to Call BULLS~~~ on your post.” Agreed, It has a shamming undertone for what’s natural, and therefore, bogus input! It will not be allowed in my mind to take root, and grow into confusion tree. Errrrr, CRUNCH!

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