uk MGTOW finally joining the brotherhood!

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2100]

Hi all,

I’ve been reading this forum for a while and became aware of MGTOW sometime towards the end of 2014 after the break up of yet another toxic relationship (a classic Narcissist). Prior to this I’d dabbled in some PUA stuff with varying degrees of success, explored life coaching etc, and actually started off listening to Sandman’s videos before moving on to Stardusk, Tom Leykis and others. But I think it was reading the Rational Male that shifted my mindset towards a MGTOW approach.

I think if I actually dug into all the reasons I’ve reached this point I’d be here for days and you guys would be reading an absolute wall of text so I will try to summarise the main parts of the journey.

I was raised to be a gentleman and from a pretty young age was placing females on a pedestal. When I didn’t care about them or was disinterested they would chase me but I’d always focus on some girl playing hard to get. I was actually more focused in my teen years on playing sport and excelling in academic areas. I was a late developer but by the time I got to Uni I developed more female friends and started to get serious girlfriends. Looking back at the opportunities I could have got laid like a rock star but I was far too nice a guy, so there’s been many points where I’ve been friend zoned but because I’m tall, good looking and personable there’s always been some kind of female interest there. If I’d had a bad boy attitude in my teens I’d have definitely been a Chad but I think old habits die extremely hard and if you’ve been conditioned to behave in a considerate, helpful way it can take a hell of a long time to unlearn that. To put it into some context my Dad has alot of successful alpha traits but he’s always worshipped my Mum and placed her on a pedestal. I was highly influenced by her when I was younger for so many years.

I’ve had health issues for many years now too but have used my time to develop myself in terms of hobbies, interests and further study. I’m learning to dance at the moment because it’s something I’ve always wanted to learn and there is a certain kind of body/memory intelligence involved. I enjoy the areas where you can learn a skill and basically never reach the end of how far you can take it – done this with learning guitar, languages and pretty random areas. I think it’s a major area of fulfillment for any MGTOW actually – finding ways to improve yourself as a man and being invested in your passions and f~~~ what anyone else thinks of them…

I think I’ve always been one to question things. You go through a phase where you think getting married or being in a long term loving relationship is the way to go then reality hits home when you realise it’s basically a lie. Even after the beginnings of a MGTOW awakening in 2014 I was (as Stardusk and others have said) a blowjob away from falling down the rabbit hole again. I yet again ignored a bunch of red flags to get involved with another sociopathic woman who seemed too good to be true and proved to be an absolute f~~~ing nightmare – cheater, consumate liar and I didn’t get out soon enough. Recently a woman that I’ve had an online friendship with for years just totally disappeared on me immediately after telling me she loved me. Both these women I’d share stuff with and to a large extent trusted. I have a long distance friend who comes to see me a couple of times a year who lives in the States (I’m in the UK) and it’s nice to get that intimacy and friendship but aside from that I really do feel now it’s best to probably not bother with women and dating.

I think we’ve all felt at times that we were somehow to blame for these women’s behaviours, then you read other mens’ accounts and realise – Christ there are so many men out there with similar or worse stories. I think there’s something to be said for fleshlights and escorts but ultimately realising that it’s sheer craziness to allow yourself to become emotionally invested with the modern female is the way to go. I’ve still got nice guy tendencies to this day but my perspective has certainly shifted and it’s been encouraging and interesting to read other mens’ experience.

Oh and I turned 40 this year, so at least to my credit I’ve never married or moved in with a woman. I think that is highly unlikely to change! I know at some point another one will walk in to my life and again seem to be different from the others, but you know and I know – that’s a mirage!

Great to meet you all and thanks for reading 🙂

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Thank you for taking the the time to write your intro. Welcome to the site and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. What style of guitar do you play? I primarily play classical but have been slowly getting into jazz this summer. I play rock music with my band but we include elements from other genres like bluegrass or polka in our jam sessions.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

nicely written intro!

welcome sir
i’m glad you found the path to freedom
enjoy the forums and the website
cheers —

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Welcome DM.

Appreciate your introduction.

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

I’ve been reading this forum for a while and became aware of MGTOW sometime towards the end of 2014

Since I started participating in the Forms and reading the stories of other likeminded free men, my MGTOW awareness/ understanding of the world has increased exponentially. The growth of the last few years surpasses the last fifteen.

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

I think if I actually dug into all the reasons I’ve reached this point I’d be here for days and you guys would be reading an absolute wall of text so I will try to summarise the main parts of the journey.

It will be good to read and discuss those reasons down the road as separate posts in the Forums. And you can always add more to your Introduction thread whenever you want.

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

I’m learning to dance at the moment because it’s something I’ve always wanted to learn and there is a certain kind of body/memory intelligence involved. I enjoy the areas where you can learn a skill and basically never reach the end of how far you can take it – done this with learning guitar, languages and pretty random areas.

I have enjoyed dancing and playing music too. That background has helped me to enjoy/ participate in the music and dances of many exotic cultures. However, Gynocentrism dominates these activities and it is getting more difficult for me to ignore it.

Nevertheless, my favorite is the Old Time Barn Dances of my European Ancestors which is still alive in some areas of the USA:

Last winter, I enjoyed participating in some Contra Dances which hired an Old Time String Band that played some musical treasures using techniques that modern musicians have abandoned. The tunes and guitar style is like the following Old Time recording:

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

I’ve never married or moved in with a woman. I think that is highly unlikely to change! I know at some point another one will walk in to my life and again seem to be different from the others, but you know and I know – that’s a mirage!

Bravo and well said!

Thanks for sharing so much about your life in the UK.

I look forward to reading your posts in the Forums.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Thanks for the insightful and well crafted introduction. Welcome to The Source.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Welcome to the gathering of like minds DancingMGTOW! It must be very difficult to be surrounded by the weemins of Britain. Of all the vejayjays on the planet, these ones burn me the most. Stay strong. Stay INDEPENDENT!

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome!

Nice first post!

Can I ask what you did / used to learn guitar?

I’m currently using https://www.musicisum.net

Cheers,
H

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2100]

Tiga K wrote:

Welcome to the site and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. What style of guitar do you play?

Thankyou Tiga 🙂 I play classical/Spanish guitar. I’ve actually considered learning other styles e.g. Jazz but never got round to it. I think playing in a band really gives it a point – that must be cool!

Anonymous wrote:

Nice first post!

Can I ask what you did / used to learn guitar?

I had lessons for many years Hector. I can read music and also had some singing lessons when I was younger. Once you reach a certain point studying technique becomes really important. You have to go back to the basics and essentially tune/train everything up again. If you can find a reputable teacher I’d suggest that’s the way to go.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

I have enjoyed dancing and playing music too. That background has helped me to enjoy/ participate in the music and dances of many exotic cultures.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

However, Gynocentrism dominates these activities and it is getting more difficult for me to ignore

I’m learning Kezomba and Cuban Salsa amongst others at the moment Manipulated Man. I agree with you about the gynocentrism – ironic that I’m MGTOW but also having to deal with women at dance socials etc. I enjoy it for what its worth and the socialising but kind of agree with what one guy said to me: “It beats going to the gym because it’s better equipment to train on”!

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Nevertheless, my favorite is the Old Time Barn Dances of my European Ancestors which is still alive in some areas of the USA:

I’ve been to barn dances in the past too – alot of fun. They have a version of it in Salsa too called La Rueda. Cheers for those clips. Will check them out.

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

Welcome to the gathering of like minds DancingMGTOW! It must be very difficult to be surrounded by the weemins of Britain. Of all the vejayjays on the planet, these ones burn me the most. Stay strong. Stay INDEPENDENT!

Cheers BlacqueJacque – well I think all women everywhere have the capacity to burn us! I used to think there were cultural differences but I think female nature is pretty universal. Others might disagree though.

Thanks for all the great replies so far and for the warm welcome.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Thanks for sharing your intro. It’s great to see another MGTOW into dancing.

The hypergamy at dance lessons or socials is so obvious to me since GMOW. I’ve been in to tango for a few months, and the women all want to dance like “classy whores”. Which is fun, but like you said

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

I enjoy it for what its worth and the socialising

Being “committed” to a woman for a 3-minute-long song is as far as i’ll go. Welcome brother!

[Red_Pill_SouljaParticipant 221]

Welcome.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10936]

Welcome to the forums.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

@ DancingMgtow

Another classical guitarist, yes! The only Spanish piece I have played is Albéniz’s Sevilla. The last piece I worked on was Bach’s suite in e minor, BWV 996. The gigue was probably my favorite dance in the suite and difficult to play. What’s a piece you have played?

[AttonParticipant]

Sticking your penis into a pommy woman is the worse mistake you will ever make. But good work on not getting ass raped by the courts.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 0]

Hi there Dancer. I wish my pathway to MGTOW was similar to yours and not the complete and utter train-wreck it has been. When I was 40 I was still wilfully getting lured back for more rounds of insanity. Now nearing 50 thankfully I have found the peaceful way. Well done to you for not being as stubborn/stupid/hypnotised as I was.
Having said that I see this thread has some discussion on music and dancing. I love both. Once long ago I went and did a random course in tap-dancing. Recently I have started learning the fiddle playing Appalachian old-timey tunes. It turns out that there are a few styles of dancing that run with this music, often using the feet to provide the rhythm alongside the band so I am enjoying trying this out too. Anyway joy is to be found dancing and playing music. Good luck to you.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2100]

Tiga K wrote:

@ DancingMgtow

Another classical guitarist, yes! The only Spanish piece I have played is Albéniz’s Sevilla. The last piece I worked on was Bach’s suite in e minor, BWV 996. The gigue was probably my favorite dance in the suite and difficult to play. What’s a piece you have played?

One of the more challenging ones is Tarrega’s Recuerdos De La Alahambra – there are some excellent versions played by John Williams and Julian Bream:

MattNYC wrote:

Being “committed” to a woman for a 3-minute-long song is as far as i’ll go. Welcome brother!

Or ask her to dance half way through and its only a minute and a half! 😉

Anonymous wrote:

Anyway joy is to be found dancing and playing music.

I completely agree!

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