Ugly, Handsome, it doesn't matter…

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

I just noticed a few recent posting about being “ugly” and having a rough go of it with women. I am considered, by many, to be pretty handsome and I just wanted to say, it doesn’t make a lick of difference.

Being handsome, smart, rich, successful, or any positive quality WILL NOT change the inherent nature of women.

The only thing being handsome has ever gotten me, as far as women are concerned, is more opportunities to be taken advantage of, which combined with my very low social IQ, has been a recipe of my own misery.

[ghostParticipant]

If you are a good looking guy, you should take advantage of your genetic gifts. I’m not saying in terms of women but in terms of making money in a respectable way.

[Anonymous 3]

Very insightful post Z.
Women are what they are….period.

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

ghost wrote:

GambitParticipant

If you’re a good looking guy, you should take advantage of your genetic gifts. I’m not saying in terms of women but in terms of making money in a respectable way.

I do! I am in sales. I wasn’t trying to sound immodest either, I am certainly no super model, just not ugly. Being attractive helps in sales, if for no other reason than people just assume you are good at what you do because you look good doing it.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

ghost wrote:

but in terms of making money in a respectable way.

There are several women that are responsible for hiring/spending company money out there, usually post walled c~~~s between 35-55. They think with their vagina and their ego, you don’t need to be that beautiful, even I that I’m ugly, if I’m wearing a suit I can get some good contracts signed, if a guy is handsome, well, he can charge twice !!

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Look at Lyle Lovett–and who he scored; looks have nothing to do with it. Women LOVE money and attention; if they think you are a ticket to either they will bang you no question.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

That’s true Zarathustra.

Being the handsome monkey I am, I speak with a great deal of experience on the subject.

When the females see an alpha male monkey with a big banana, they begin to screech excitedly and aggressively claw at each other for access to the male.

But I can tell you that before long, these same females are ALWAYS looking to monkeybranch to a richer, more handsome, more exciting monkey. And they do.

They monkeybranch when they get bored, or see better bananas. They don’t have to give a reason, and it doesn’t have to make sense.

They monkeybranch without remorse, and don’t care about anything you did or provided for them in the past.

They also lay claim to all of your bananas. Now and in the future. Then you have to fight them and the blue pill males of the tribe in the monkey court.

It’s just not worth it! Never marry the female! Never cohabitate!

Swing your own way.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[survivorParticipant 610]

This is true. Women use cosmetics to up their game. Men can also up their game. If you do have a Brad Pitt face or let’s say an extremely handsome face, this will open the doors. If you can put on some decent clothes and stay in shape, even better.

But really even in you’re an average Joe Bloke, losing the pot belly, proper grooming and a decent set of threads can turn their heads, too. I’m referring to women and even men. I’d say I’m a humble 6; but with threads, a nice tie, and some grooming, the ladies are looking. I jump to a powerful 8. Women playfully flirt with me. Even the Secretary in the office where I worked was interested in me, not that I took her up on it. The female students in my classes, too, always sat closer and pay more “attention” shall we say to the class material being presented.

Here’s a lesson in the power of the suit and tie: Once a number of years ago when just finishing grad school I went to an early morning interview about 9: 30-ish or so on the other side of LA County where I happened to live then. (I don’t anymore.) I battled the traffic and got there on time and went to a local grocery store to see what they had available in the way of breakfast for takeout. I walked in the store wearing my power interview suit which was expensive and duly studly for the occasion. Immediately younger store clerks, both male and female, were calling me “Sir” and asking what they could help me find. All in all, very pleasant experience. The power of the suit. They thought I was some young up and coming CEO. Finished the interview and went back home.

Fast forward to that weekend. I was in the same neighborhood for a softball game. And lo and behold after the game I duck into the same store after the game to grab some Gatorade or water. Southern Cal is hot! I walk into the store in a pair of OP cord shorts (if you remember those!) sunglasses, my hat on backwards and a t-shirt with the sleeves cut off. No one even glanced at me thinking I was white, trailer-park trash.

ZZ Top used to have a song: “Every girl goes crazy about a sharp-dressed man.” Songs imitate life. They’re right. The power of the suit. Throw in a lean body, nicely groomed haircut and beard, you’re turning heads or they’re trying hard not to notice and give it away. But you know what? The women are still crazy. And never stick it in the crazy.

"Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

survivor wrote:

Here’s a lesson in the power of the suit and tie: Once a number of years ago when just finishing grad school

Thanks for that. Being in a small town they are less expecting of having a “power suit”. I look nice at work but I have let my wardrobe slip a little recently and need to spend a little money on it.

I forget sometimes how important it is in sales and I need to up my game a little in that department.

[53ClicksUpParticipant 1345]

You’re God damned right it doesn’t matter…..not to a MGHOW.

I don’t give rat’s ass what women/chimpanzees are doing with bananas, kumquat, or any other fruits or vegetables.

Move along gentlemen…. we’ve know for a couple of thousand years that women are the root of all evil in the world.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Yeah, I read somewhere “Eve” means “I get all your stuff even if I leave.”

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

The only real appearance I ever think about is my dis-appearance from society.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

I usually can be found donning t-shirt and jeans with some boots. I prefer comfort over looking good. However, I seem to be noticed more when I have a suit and tie on. I do not like wearing that crap, plus very expensive to maintain @ 20 bucks a pop to dry clean.

If a person is not attracted to you for the way you look without threads, it makes little sense to play the game. I do not find myself particularly attractive, as I was dateless through HS and college. Not exactly sure why as I was on several sports teams in both. However, was never successful with the women in the past, so I just take that as I am below average looks. I came to accept this long ago, so I always wonder what the woman is looking for from me; as I am not apparently good looking. No pot belly, groomed well, etc. It’s okay.. I’ve accepted it. I refuse to play the game of materialism. I go by the old saying, if someone doesn’t want to be around you at your worse, why should they have the honor of being around you at your best.

All they are after is resources. My last woman I was seeing (as we didn’t do much else) is proof of it. Disgusting how this world has changed into such materialism and fake people. Again, I refuse to comply and I will live my own way on my own terms.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

It doesn’t matter how handsome/rich/powerful you are, as a man, you cannot stop a woman’s natural hypergamous instincts; she will monkey-branch to another man, when the conditions/time is right for her to do so. In modern society, in which a woman’s hypergamous instincts are not controlled and in which the law does not penalise/punish hypergamous behaviour, these are the main reasons why relationships/marriage with women do not work nowadays; so there is no point in men co-habiting/dating/marrying modern women. At least, in traditional society, before Feminism got a grip, womens’ hyergamy was controlled/kept-in-check by men within marriage/society and by the legal system, so this made marriage/relationships viable for men; but marriage/relationships are knackered now, as far as men are concerned.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Women get physically turned on by an aggressive criminal minded man. If the man is emotionally unavailable and treats them like the garbage they are: women will throw themselves at the guy and try to get knocked up.
Underneath all of the acting: women have a very low sense of self esteem. All they hear are compliments, but a man who tears them down and calls them out on their bulls~~~: that is a man whom they can trust. If the man is a violent criminal: he’s Daddy material for DNA…this is the DNA she wants her child to have. She will get pregnant then immediate hook up with a Beta Wallet (if she isn’t hooked up already and cheating) and will try to pass the kid off as the Beta Wallet’s. This way she gets the “best” of both worlds…DNA from a Bad Boy, and Money from a Wallet..

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

It’s all just wasted resources. It’s like playing poker, but even if you win the pot it can just up and leave at any time.

Sovereignty above all else.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Coming into work I had coworkers joking about the poor homeless guy hanging out away from the cold.

I guess my jacket finished the look that my chest length beard and mid-back pony tail started.

If I got a shave and a haircut it would take 15 years off me, but the look of ZFG is the real me. It’s perfect camouflage for the real world.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

She, who starts demanding, gets nothing.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

It’s all just wasted resources. It’s like playing Poker, but even if you win the pot, it can just up and leave at any time.

Nice analogy. The thing is that, by getting a woman you, are not actually getting a genuine pot/prize… the pot/prize is tainted… so why bother playing the game?

[ghostParticipant]

sjt1975 wrote:

so why bother playing the game?

Here are the primary reasons why I have tried my hand at this game:

1) Biological Instinct
2) Companionship
3) Family

I have failed at this game multiple times. I don’t know if I will ever play it again, but I won’t judge another man who chooses to play the game in hopes of satisfying his thirst for the three things I mentioned above. He might win and be happier than being in my current shoes. I am not unhappy but just disappointed.

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