Turned into a Lobster: the punishment for being MGTOW.

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    <span style="font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Warning this
    article contains SPOILERS for the film The Lobster.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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    <span style="font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;">“The first
    day is a day he would never forget...” This is MGTOW themed review and analysis
    of the MGTOW themed film: The Lobster which has just received its unofficial internet
    release, thanks to the servers at Kick Ass Torrents.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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    <span style="font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;">The new paradigm
    of MGTOW, or Men Going Their Own Way which is merrily consuming You-Tube bandwidth
    with astonishing alacrity, is a natural human reaction to the ‘war-on-men’
    which has been waged for either the last 20 or so years or since Eve’s betrayal
    of Adam in the garden of Eden. Depends on your politics I guess.</span><br />
    <span style="font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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    <span style="font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;">It seems to
    be about 20 years since the Social Justice Marxists started setting-to with
    real vigour in their mission to destroy society and human civilisation as we
    know it, in order that it be replaced with an as yet, unknown, New System.&nbsp;</span><br />

    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Ever since Tony Blair was
    elected in the late 90’s the UK in particular and modern social-reality itself
    seems to no longer hold any pretence at making sense and there’s
    clearly something malicious in the corruption, neglect and mismanagement
    currently fomenting in Britain. I somehow get the impression that since the
    Iraq war and the death of over a million Iraqis the secret elite rulers of the
    world have realised they can pretty much do anything they like and noone really has any idea how to stop them.<o:p></o:p></span>

    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>People’s
    attitude seems to have changed to resignation as we all just sort of await the
    next outrage to common-sense and morality to emerge from politics and the media. Whether it’s the murder
    of David Kelly and Robin Cook for their work trying to prevent the Iraq war or recent
    revelations about David Cameron having sex with a dead pig’s head. It’s just a catalogue
    of endless horrors only punctuated by humourless dark absurdities. <o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>There is a
    sense that anything goes now really, and a possible future where single people
    are dehumanised and punished until they pair up, marry and contribute taxes and their labour to the monolithic machiney of the state, is probably no more bizarre
    than anything else which is happening these days.<o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The film The
    Lobster won the Jury prize at the 2015 Cannes film festival, a fact which makes
    me somewhat suspicious as there is always a sense that these prizes and
    promotions are often used to further the social engineering agenda. <o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The film
    presents us with the strange concept of a sort of hotel for singles, like a kind
    of club 18-30 concentration camp where the male guests are raped, beaten and
    psychologically abused, and threatened that they will ultimately be transformed
    into animals if they do not find another partner within 45 days and any escapees are mercilessly hunted down.</span><br />
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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>Captured singles after a night’s hunting in the woods.</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>The film
    begins in a shocking manner with a woman shooting a donkey, within the logic of
    the film this is presumably her ex-husband. Then a cut to Colin Farrell’s
    character David being thrown out by his wife while her new lover rings
    impatiently at the doorbell. </span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Here we have two of the key concepts of MGTOW
    being played out. Namely in the first instance, the belief that some women will
    actively seek to destroy a man once he is of no more use to her, and the
    behaviour of some women who literally try to destroy their
    husbands in flagrantly unjust divorce settlements which resemble personal
    vendettas rather than the amicable termination of a contract; and in the second instance the fact
    that 80% percent of divorces are instigated by women and in almost all cases it is the
    man who must move out of the family home, often losing everything he has worked
    for on the sudden whim of the woman he loved and who he thought loved him.<o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Whether it is actually true that people are somehow turned into animals is never made clear, except for a bit of dubious exposition from one of the characters. The title of the film is the animal which Colin Farrell’s
    character had decided he would choose to be turned into (because he says they live for a
    hundred years and have blue blood like royalty) should his time at the hotel prove unsuccessful.<o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Upon enrolling into the hotel system he is stripped down to his underwear, has his
    possessions confiscated and given hotel room 101, a nod to similarly dystopian
    portrayal of a fascist future George Orwell’s 1984. <o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>What we see
    in The Lobster may well be a world which exists within the same continuum as
    1984. But</span><span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”> the film also exists within a sort of post MGTOW world where society has
    mobilised its forces and human rights have been quashed in an attempt to force apparently
    reluctant men to pair up with women. The same obligation seems to exist for women, but we
    observe the film from a masculine viewpoint and it is commonly the men who are
    punished, humiliated, tortured throughout the duration of the film.</span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The men in
    the film show an obvious lack of interest in the opposite sex and a desire to
    just be left alone to hang out with each-other. It is only through compulsion
    and the threat of being turned into animals that they force themselves to talk
    to women, but they seem to have a much better time alone.  </span><br />
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>With humorous irony Robert </span><span style=”font-size: 24px; line-height: 27.6px;”>(the fabulous John C Reilly, better known to me as Will Ferrell’s goofy step brother in the film of that name) </span><span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>describes the culminating experience of the hotel “The final ordeal before letting you go and the hardest one.” He is referring to what we would probably know as a honeymoon on a yacht, for many in this day and age something of a romantic ideal but in the post MGTOW world this is described as an ‘ordeal’. And in chilling tones John C Reilly’s character states: </span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 24px; line-height: 27.6px;”>”15 days of vacation….just a couple alone” as if it were the very worst thing in the world.</span>

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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>Men just wanting to go their own way.</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Their interactions with women are forced and the
    unnatural lengths which they go to in order to show some kind of commonality
    with the women, including Ben Whishaw’s character John damaging his own nose in order for it to bleed in order to have something in common with and something to talk about with one of the women whose most defining characteristic is that she suffers from nosebleeds.<o:p></o:p></span>

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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>”What’s worse? To die of cold and hunger in the woods. to become an animal that will be killed and eaten by some big animal, or to have a nose-bleed from time to time.” </span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>In another scene Collin Farrell’s character desperately tries to strike up a conversation with a female who is coming close to her final day at the hotel. He begins by smiling and commenting that she has nice hair. “I know” she replies simply, then starts revelling in her own hair.</span><br />
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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>I’m great.</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Farrell’s character then asks her “How do you like mine?” thinking that he could save her life if only she commented that he too had nice hair and as such they both would have something in common and they could become a couple and she could live. But instead she visibly adjusts her body language, from the obvious happiness and self centred satisfaction at being given a compliment, to folding her arms and looking stern when asked to say something nice about his. </span><span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>She tells him it looks dry but then starts a strange sort of harangue about men with bald hair, and her tone is almost berating and finding fault with him, even though he doesn’t have bald hair and will also be unlikely to develop it in later life.</span><br />
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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>You suck.</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The same women then appears to be on her final day before being transformed into an animal, her ‘best friend’ reads a letter to her saying she will miss her and when she gets to the city she will never find a friend as faithful and true as she was, the women then slaps her, exposing her all consuming anger and jealousy that she has managed to find a partner while she has not. </span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The tragedy is that had this woman merely responded to David with a simple compliment about his own hair then they would have had something in common and as a result would not risk being turned into an animal. In fact she throws herself from her hotel room and dies painfully on the terrace bellow. It simply didn’t occur to her even for a second that she could possibly return the compliment to David and she would be saved.</span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>Women… I can’t figure them out.</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>It simply isn’t in her nature to do so. And so we see this written on the look of sad confusion on David’s face when he offered to give himself to her to save her life if only she could for once not be wholly and so completely self centred. She literally couldn’t say something nice to a man to save her own life.</span><br />
    <br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The film
    explores some of the themes and criticisms of women within the MGTOW world.
    Their vapidity and the apparent heartlessness with which they treat men who no
    longer serve their purposes.  One of the
    women describes her one defining characteristic as ‘her beautiful smile’,
    seeming to evoke MGTOW’s criticism that women are superficial and obsessed only
    with appearances. And one of the women is described as ‘having no feelings
    whatsoever’.<o:p></o:p></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>The men are
    specifically oppressed by women in a variety ways throughout the film. The
    wonderful Olivia Coleman’s character of gently tyrannical Hotel Commandant
    accuses Robert of masturbating in his own room
    and calls him a “A weak and cowardly man.” And threatens that he’d better get
    used to masturbating not to pictures of naked women but to pictures of horses
    since he will most likely end up being turned into one for failing to find a
    partner. He is then brutally punished  having
    his hand forced into an electric toaster. Presumably so he can longer
    masturbate.</span><br />
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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>But that’s my wanking hand!</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”> </span><span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>                                                     </span>

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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: large; line-height: 27.6px; text-align: left;”>”If you encounter any problems, any tensions, any arguing that you cannot resolve yourselves, you will be assigned children. That usually helps..”</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Colin Farrell’s
    character David is also apparently, raped on several occasions. He is ordered
    to remove his trousers despite his protestation: “</span><span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>Can we not
    do this today, it’s awful.”</span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>But he is told that “I’m afraid you have to do it
    and you have no idea how much it helps you psychologically in the search for a
    partner.”</span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>After the
    fact the hotel maid is seen readjusting her clothes after some kind of sexual
    operation and David is told in a scientific manner: </span><span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>“Today you
    became erect quicker than on other days”</span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>In another scene,
    the women in the audience are shown a basic role-play where  women without men are shown as being
    vulnerable and prone to sexual attack by single predatory males.</span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”>Ben Whishaw
    first appeared on television as Pingu, the abused and much humiliated computer
    geek in  Chris’ Morris and Charlie
    Brooker’s satire of Shoreditch wankers: Nathan Barley and watching this film I
    had to check that it wasn’t written by Chris Morris as it has something of the satirical
    prescience which Morris is known for. However it is getting harder and harder
    for satire to keep up with just how insane the world is actually becoming and I
    get the feeling that this film may be less a satire but more a shape of things
    to come and the decline in men getting married or having any kinds of
    relationships with women increases causing a potential population decrease and resultant
    massive socio-economic imbalance within the western world.</span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>

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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>”It’s no coincidence that the targets are shaped as single people and not couples.”</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>Colin Farrell’s character in a desperate attempt to reach one of the women becomes deliberately cold and calous since he has noticed that being nice to women and complimenting them seemed ineffective. As a resut of acting like a callous and sociopathic caveman type of man he manages to ingratiate himself with the woman who has no feelings and thus prevent himself from being turned into an animal. </span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”>It is only when she pretends to be choking to death and he does nothing to save her, that she realises that he has the required Alpha male characteristics and is the right man for her. She then kills his brother (who is a dog) but because he shows emotion she deems him unsuitable and goes to report him to the hotel manager.  </span><br />
    <span style=”font-size: 18pt; line-height: 115%;”><br /></span>
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    <tr><td class=”tr-caption” style=”text-align: center;”><span style=”font-size: large;”>Pyscho-woman…Quest-ce-que-c’est?</span></td></tr>
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    <span style=”font-size: 24px; line-height: 27.6px;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 24px; line-height: 27.6px;”>The film quickly loses its way after the first 45 minutes however and becomes a dissordered mess once the chemistry of Colin Farrel, John C Reilly and Ben Whishaw is broken up. In addition the women’s dialogue and the deliberately frozen, stilted performances, which while perhaps appealing to artistic sensibilities, do not really suit story-telling and an enjoyable movie experience. </span>
    <span style=”font-size: 24px; line-height: 27.6px;”><br /></span>
    <span style=”font-size: 24px; line-height: 27.6px;”>I suspect that this effect is deliberate and intended to represent the difficult and alien nature of the male-female relationships and how perhaps, men and women can never really understand each-other, and that the only things we have in common might be the occasional nose bleed after all.</span>
    #159998
    RoyDal
    RoyDal
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    I take it that the gist of this movie is “get married, or else.” If I happen to like seafood, does that make me a potential cannibal? Or, are the transmogrified men sequestered from the general lobster population?

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #160091
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    Truthspoon
    Truthspoon
    Participant
    1289

    Keymaster….could you delete this thread….? as you can see I didn’t have a clue what I was doing with the coding…

    Cheers

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