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These cartels have links all the way to the top, right BB?
I mean fast and furious? hastily cancelled charges because the the main defendant (kingpin) is an informant?
Your talking about El Chapo right? Basically the Zetas are/were a REAL problem several years back as they had special forces members in their ranks trained by US federal agents for drug enforcement. They were kicking all sorts of ass and beheading and doing some serious campaign of terror (cut faces off decapitated heads, killed random bus loads of students in Mexico and etc.) S~~~ Al Queda would either be proud of or s~~~ their pants over.
Basically the US decided to use the Sinaloa cartel to the west to check their advance and growth and had Gun Runner and Fast and the Furious.
I myself when I was in University of Texas at Brownsville before 2009 heard not just gun fire but grenades/bazookas across the river. The Zetas were at war with the Gulf Cartel on Matamoros. So yeah, US was created a problem, and made it worse.
Anonymous11The drug war has f~~~ed up Mexico, Columbia,and the inner cities of the US. I often wonder if the “cure” is worse then the disease. It seems to have zero impact on the availability of drugs.
I don’t use drugs. Yet, I promise. I could score some Fentanyl laced Heroin by dark if I put my mind to it. I know zero heroin users and have no connections. How’s that for the effectiveness of the Drug War?
My brother used to live in extreme South Texas. People constantly would come up to him speaking Spanish thinking he was Mexican.
If you think of yourself as either a conservative or a liberal, then congratulations: you’re giving free rent of your headspace to those who would convince you that there are only two ways of thinking about governance and laws. Remedy: Ask yourself who truly benefits from getting people to believe this.
As for Trump.
I’ve put in a lot of thought on this. I really don’t like the guy. However, just watch this:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000004108808/the-killing-of-farkhunda.html
…and tell me you want ANY of those people in that video coming here(except maybe the poor victim).
Show me one, just ONE candidate that talks openly about NOT LETTING PEOPLE LIKE THESE COME TO MY COUNTRY. Go on, I dare you. Show me.
And don’t try to claim it’s an isolated incident – between this, and honor killings, blowing up or shooting innocent people on purpose, and poll after poll of even the most westernized nations showing over 90% of people there support death for leaving islam, it most definitely is NOT an isolated incident.
Until you can show me another candidate that wants to keep these people the f~~~ out of my country, I’m voting for goddamn Donald J. Trump.
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The “war on drugs” should have been the “war on drug users” that consisted of executing repeat offenders for drug related charges. The only reason the cartels exist and have so much money and power is because users up here are more than happy to fund them all the way from the common street junky to the government.
Instead we go out of our way to save derelicts and put them through rehab just so an overwhelming majority of them can end up right back out on the street continuing to do what they got in trouble for in the first place.
We’ll never get rid of the problem completely no matter what we do, but what we’ve been doing obviously isn’t working.
…and tell me you want ANY of those people in that video coming here(
f~~~ NO.
crazy video..should be circulated more.
sharia law does not belong in western culture.
iv’e worked with mexicans who were here legally.
they don’t want to blow us up !Trump wants to build a wall? Well what if I prefer Mexican products. Donald Drumpf can go back to Germany then.
What is it about Trump detractors that they consistently miss the point?
Trump’s proposed wall isn’t intended to stop the legal importation of Mexican products. Why would you think that? It’s to stop the mass influx of illegal squatters (they don’t deserve to be called immigrants) who enter the country, s~~~ out an anchor baby or two, and then go on welfare.
The last I checked the U.S. national debt is $19,242,713,612,453, which is larger than the entire U.S. Gross Domestic Product. Even worse the debt has increased by more than a hundred billion dollars in just the last three weeks, and will be well over $20 trillion by election time.
We simply don’t have the money to keep feeding more and more illegal squatters and their anchor spawn. The supreme court has already ruled that we can’t deny them welfare simply because they are criminally in the country, and mass deportation isn’t an option either, so what solution do you propose? As stupid as it is, the wall is about the only option left available by the activist courts.
Anonymous24Trump definitley is going to win. This is a preknown fact, not an opinion.
Trump has a very slim chance. Zio owned left wing media has been prepping the masses for Hillary for years now, just as they did with I’llbombya. Now, not that anything really changes from one puppet to another, I would like to see Trump win because I feel his ego/b~~~~ may be the thing this country needs, someone to actually attempt to make some changes, any f~~~ing changes… But the reality is the tipping point of Zionist influence in the U.S. happened many years ago, and whoever has their money/backing will win from now on, (this can be candidates on both sides as seen with pandering at AIPAC) but this time their pick is Hillary, she has been a good foot soldier, leading the charge into Libya and strong Globalist ties evidenced throughout here entire career as well as Bill’s. Mark my words, save this thread and come back to it after the election is over. Hillary will win. Expect 8 more years of the Clintion/Bush/I’llbombya Zio controlled Neo-Con Globalist agenda government to continue without change.
Anonymous24…and tell me you want ANY of those people in that video coming here(
f~~~ NO.
crazy video..should be circulated more.
sharia law does not belong in western culture.
iv’e worked with mexicans who were here legally.
they don’t want to blow us up !They don’t want to blow us up because we have not been blowing them up en masse based on lies going on 15 years straight now.
Anonymous11The last I checked the U.S. national debt is $19,242,713,612,453, which is larger than the entire U.S. Gross Domestic Product. Even worse the debt has increased by more than a hundred billion dollars in just the last three weeks, and will be well over $20 trillion by election time.
Come one Sidecar, you’re confusing our SJW lurkers with real numbers and facts.
What would 100 billion dollars in debt over 3 weeks do if it were used productively like a real business would do?
Everyone repeat after me: EXPONENTIAL!
I’m going to need a shot of Crown Royal after those numbers you laid out to us. Do you want to be more scared?
The current estimates of the net present value of unfunded mandates is now in the 205 to 215 trillion dollar range. It’s so f~~~ed up they struggle to come up with that estimate. Bottom line is don’t ever count on the US Government. It passed the theoretical point of mathematical insolvency a few years ago.
Math does not care about our feelings.
Zio owned left wing media has been prepping the masses for Hillary for years now
Zionism cannot beat real logic. The Zionists are evil intelligent. They will use the great reset in an attempt to consolidate. However, in a critical failure situation, no one has any real control. I would not bet on their desired outcome.
The current estimates of the net present value of unfunded mandates is now in the 205 to 215 trillion dollar range.
Which last I heard was more than the entire net worth of the U.S. and everything in it.
As stupid as it is, the wall is about the only option left available by the activist courts.
I wasn’t a huge Romney fan…but I think his idea of making it not so pleasant here for illegals they would self deport was correct. If they come here and don’t get any government assistance, no education for their kids, no free healthcare, they can’t find people willing to hire them because fines against employers are so harsh its not worth it anymore, when they get caught for any minor crime its just instant deportation no further questions asked, and they in general get treated like criminals instead of victims, we wouldn’t need a wall or mass deportations, they’d just stop coming by the millions because there would be nothing here for them. Yeah we’d still have drug runners to deal with on the border but it would be a lot easier dealing with them when they aren’t mixed in among millions of people coming here just to live.
The thing is its not educated or middle/upper class South Americans coming here illegally…its the criminals and the poor. Essentially all their “undesirables” are coming here in mass either to sell drugs, join gangs, or sadly some are just looking for opportunity to better their lives but our country is f~~~ing broke and the middle class we currently do have is shrinking…we need to get our own s~~~ in order before we can take on millions of poor from other countries. If our morons in charge are going to leave the doors open to them it just means South America will that much more nicer when I’m ready to retire. If we continue down the current path our country is on I don’t really see any value in staying in this country when two of the biggest voting blocs are going to be single moms and illegals recently made legal that will all be voting for handouts. F~~~ them, I’ll be retiring early spending most or all of my time abroad where the cost of living is much lower and my money will go a lot further while taking whatever steps are necessary to ensure I pay the least amount possible in taxes to support the very people and programs that are wrecking this country.
Which last I heard was more than the entire net worth of the U.S. and everything in it.
Its kind of a joke amount though…a lot of that is estimated future social security, medicare, and pension promises the government obviously will just change the rules on since we all know people set to draw on them in the near future haven’t properly funded or managed them to support the level of benefits they’ve promised themselves.
If they were to tax millennials and the next generation enough to cover that full amount we’d be high fiving all the illegal border hoppers on their way in while we were on our way out.
I wasn’t a huge Romney fan…but I think his idea of making it not so pleasant here for illegals they would self deport was correct. If they come here and don’t get any government assistance, no education for their kids, no free healthcare, they can’t find people willing to hire them because fines against employers are so harsh its not worth it anymore, when they get caught for any minor crime its just instant deportation no further questions asked, and they in general get treated like criminals instead of victims, we wouldn’t need a wall or mass deportations, they’d just stop coming by the millions because there would be nothing here for them.
Except the courts have already preempted most of those methods claiming it somehow violates the illegals’ “civil rights”. Apparently it’s their “civil right” to get handouts courtesy of the taxpayer and suffer no consequences for breaking the law.
Trump isn’t going to win. Boycotting Mexican products are pretty silly to me. I’m a Trump fan however I’m Canadian. i wish we had someone like him here I’m tired of our douchebag feminist Prime Minister.
Trump definitley is going to win. This is a preknown fact, not an opinion.
I’m not so sure about that. It seems like everyone, including the GOP, hates Trump with a passion, and are trying to kneecap him. On top of that, it looks like the government will back Hillary up since she’s not anti-establishment when compared to Trump or Sanders. You have black people and millenials backing Sanders like crazy, but Clinton has that big superdelegate pack to keep her way ahead of Sanders. Maybe it’s because millenials don’t vote generally.
I also feel like someone like Kasich is still in this election to try and bring down Trump only at this point, but that makes no sense because he has a 0% chance of winning, and a 0.0000001% chance of winning another state other than Ohio. He’s giving himself another reason for people not to vote for him.
This may end up off-topic, but is there any reason not to vote for Cruz? I haven’t concentrated on him lately because to me, he’s pretty boring. I prefer to listen to what Trump has to say.
Except the courts have already preempted most of those methods claiming it somehow violates the illegals’ “civil rights”. Apparently it’s their “civil right” to get handouts courtesy of the taxpayer and suffer no consequences for breaking the law.
Yup…this countries been doing a fantastic job of stepping on its own dick. Its why planning for my future involves an exit strategy. My generation loves Bernie Sanders…I’m under no illusion we won’t be sliding further towards socialism during the course of my life time. I really don’t even give a s~~~ about it any more. If they want universal healthcare I’ll just retire that much earlier because that is one less retirement expense, and I’ll make sure to thank the idiots who voted for it quite often while they bitch about taxes going up up and up. Most of the Bernie voters I know are buried in debt so they’d just be making it harder on themselves to get out of debt or save for their own retirement while they’d be paying for my healthcare while I’m retired 20-30 years before they can hope to be lol.
This may end up off-topic, but is there any reason not to vote for Cruz? I haven’t concentrated on him lately because to me, he’s pretty boring. I prefer to listen to what Trump has to say.
Trump and Cruz were my first two choices from the start, simply because they were the only two candidates who want to get tougher on illegals and aren’t just pandering for their votes. Oddly enough they’ve been leading the pack the whole time as a majority of Americans are opposed to illegals although the media constantly tries to portray otherwise. If neither of them win its all but guaranteed next election the current illegals will be voting in as we accelerate towards implosion.
Anonymous7If you are anti Trump you are likely anti America
His policies whether you like him or not are the best and most practical for our longevity not all a perfect but most are good.
Especially compared to the other terrible candidates
If you are anti Trump you are likely anti America
Well, I’m sick of America. I love the country, but the government is s~~~ty.
And saying s~~~ like that is just a logical fallacy. There’s nothing wrong with being anti-Trump.
I’m against all politicians because they’re all gynocentric in some way or another. Even Trump is gynocentric for his daughter.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
Anonymous7And saying s~~~ like that is just a logical fallacy. There’s nothing wrong with being anti-Trump.
The better word is preference. If you care about the longevity of this nation Trump is the way to go. A vote for anyone else i.e Hilarly, bernie, cruz is a f~~~ you to America.
If you are not voting than youre not anti america but if you prefer other ideologies presented by the other main stream candidates americas best interests are not in your mind from a capitalist stand point. Which is the only way to go based on history.
There’s nothing wrong with being anti-Trump.
I can think of at least one thing wrong with being anti-Trump: “Madame President Hillary Clinton”
Why would you want that?
The better word is preference. If you care about the longevity of this nation Trump is the way to go. A vote for anyone else i.e Hilarly, bernie, cruz is a f~~~ you to America.
Voting is a waste of time in my opinion. America is gonna go to s~~~ one way or another. If Trump does get in office, it’ll just be like placing duck tape on a sinking row boat. It might last for a while, but in the end it’ll just end up sinking.
I can think of at least one thing wrong with being anti-Trump: “Madame President Hillary Clinton”
Why would you want that?
You assume that being anti-Trump means I’m for any other candidate though. So that’s a loaded question.
I’m anti-all politicians. I can’t stand any of them. And voting for them is like voting for the lesser of evils. Not my cup of tea.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
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