Trump planning to ban welfare to illegal immigrants.

[DDJParticipant 1880]

If he truly does this…it’ll be good for the country. IF you’re in the country illegally, you shouldn’t be allowed to collect welfare.

Here’s the story.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[Anonymous 22]

I wonder what is the benefit of having unemployed illegal aliens in the USA? Okay, I get it that the greedy business people want the illegals there for cheap labor. Not ethical but it’s just the way it is.

But what does USA gain by not deporting the aliens that don’t even work?

If they really are getting welfare then hopefully Trump can put an end to it. Looks like he is wasting no time and really does what he said he’d do. The liberals are s~~~ting their pants.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

DDJ wrote:

IF you’re in the country illegally, you shouldn’t be allowed to collect welfare.

I think it’s incredible that some people actually need to be TOLD that. And even more incredible that there are those who would disagree with it.

Anonymous wrote:

The liberals are s~~~ting their pants.

That’s OK, they embraced “free-bleeding” and “p~~~ing themselves for equality”.

They can embrace that turd in their pants to “empower” them too.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9565]

Good! The illegals take our jobs away from Americans, and then take our money through benefits. So good, let the illegals be stranded in the cold, so that unemployed Americans like myself can get a job and get off benefits.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Okay, I get it that the greedy business people want the illegals there for cheap labor. Not ethical but it’s just the way it is.

The fact of the matter is that business men in many industries, like residential contraction, landscaping, residential contract work, farming, etc, cannot afford to stay in business without using illegal labor. Greed has nothing to do with it. No one is going to pay an extra $10,000 to put in their backyard pool just to use minimum wage low skilled labor instead of cheap illegal skilled labor.

Liberals (I don’t know if that means you) love to assume that business owners never pass down the benefits of cheap labor to their customers. Yet anytime there is a new sales tax or tariff is suggested, they immediately claim it will be all passed down to the customers.

Aside: A tariff on Mexican imports would not be passed down to American customers as they claim. Because Americans have options to buy products that aren’t subject to the tax. You can buy your avocados from the US, and this Mexico will have to absorb the tax in order to stay competitive in the US market. They may be able to pass some if the tax is low and they have a superior product, but that only goes so far.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 42]

My People, my people, the whole world is your citizen! Feed them (with your food), clothe them (with your cloths), doctor them (with your medicine), and house them (with your home), and GIVE THEM ALL THAT YOU HAVE EARNED SO YOU CAN BE JUST LIKE THEM!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Free bleeding. Blood borne pathogens.

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[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Does anyone here know how to cure permi-smile. My face is starting to really hurt from all of the grinning I’m doing.

Not one of you mention divorce!

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

And lest we forget EBT cards—time to cancel that too.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Point of order:

I drive an old 2000 Nissan—at my church on Sunday the 11 am mass is for the illegals so its packed and when you go through the parking lot there is not ONE vehicle worth less than 15K and most are newer pick ups, SUVs etc.

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

Got to give it to The Don, he’s getting s~~~ done. Modern-day hero. How, in this age of ‘big data’ and interconnected government databases, illegals can collect government welfare is beyond me.

#ManOut

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Oz-Bloke wrote:

How, in this age of ‘big data’ and interconnected government databases, illegals can collect government welfare is beyond me.

It has been on purpose to destabilize America. It’s evil. It is by design by those who hate freedom.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Keymaster wrote:

That’s OK, they embraced “free-bleeding” and “p~~~ing themselves for equality”.

LOL I knew 4chan had to be good for something.

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

So good, let the illegals be stranded in the cold, so that unemployed Americans like myself can get a job and get off benefits.

Have fun pickin them strawberries! Don’t get me wrong – I agree with you. We just have to be prepared to pay more for some things, which I am.

I’m FAR more concerned about the whole H1B scam. Bring in pseudo-slave labor to undercut Americans that have studied and worked their whole lives to get into sci/tech jobs.

Simple fix: a 40% ongoing surcharge of wages paid, to be paid by the employers(importers). If their H1B person truly has a unique and magical skill they can’t do without, then this won’t be a problem. However if the only reason for them being there is cheap(er) labor, then problem solved.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[neverAgainParticipant 1662]

It is such a wise, common sense plan. Illegal means NOT legal. The left needs to understand this

All good things come to an end.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I thought his plan was to actually ban all immigrants from getting welfare, which is even more awesome. About time we start bringing people over here and giving them a free ride, legal or not.

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

We just have to be prepared to pay more for some things, which I am.

Are we really going to have to? Just an example…but look at the cost break down for an iPhone…

Apple could literally pay an American 30 bucks an hour to assemble iPhones instead of paying Chinese people 2 bucks an hour and the profit portion of the pie would still be more than 3x bigger than the labor portion. How many other products do you think look like that if you break down the retail price and how much illegal labor or cheap foreign labor actually saves compared to the final price?

Even something simple like picking apples…what if a worker can pick 250lbs of apples in an hour? Let’s pretend right now an illegal does it for 10 bucks an hour under the table. Let’s replace him with an American making 20 bucks an hour. Divide that extra 10 bucks an hour out over 250lbs of apples and it would cost you 4 cents more per pound at the store…big deal. At the same time we also took an unemployed American and gave him a job that pays a living wage…so what we save by getting people off welfare programs(legal immigrants, illegal, citizens, don’t matter) may very well more than offset whatever slight cost increases you see at the cash register.

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

I’m FAR more concerned about the whole H1B scam. Bring in pseudo-slave labor to undercut Americans that have studied and worked their whole lives to get into sci/tech jobs.

Simple fix: a 40% ongoing surcharge of wages paid, to be paid by the employers(importers). If their H1B person truly has a unique and magical skill they can’t do without, then this won’t be a problem. However if the only reason for them being there is cheap(er) labor, then problem solved.

I’m not sure if anything because of it yet but last I heard Trump planned on raising the minimum wage required for companies to pay an h1b worker to like 110k a year or something. Basically it would make a whole hell a lot of jobs h1b proof…no longer worth replacing the engineering or IT departments with a bunch of h1b people because they’ll work for 20k-30k a year less, live with 10 people in a 3 bedroom house, and send all the money back to their home country. Unless they need some highly educated or skilled worker that is just hard to find, they have plenty of Americans to pick from.

[Anonymous 22]

narwhal wrote:

Liberals (I don’t know if that means you)

Yes! I’m a liberal. That’s why I always talk s~~~ about them.

One plus one equals three or more.

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9565]

I don’t mind paying a tad more to put Americans back to work and take back our jobs from the illegals. Just because you manage to cross the boarder without being caught doesn’t give you the right to our resources. And it’s not fair that just because I’m an American, I don’t deserve a working/living lifestyle; I wish management would get this in all the time I’ve been struggling.

I also don’t like how illegals treat Americans; like dirt. All the things this country gives them including more money for each kid they reproduce and still treat Americans like garbage.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[narwhalParticipant]

Beer wrote:

At the same time we also took an unemployed American and gave him a job that pays a living wage…so what we save by getting people off welfare programs(legal immigrants, illegal, citizens, don’t matter) may very well more than offset whatever slight cost increases you see at the cash register.

I see that as a very important point. With previous administrations, there was no way American’s would ever see any savings from getting people off welfare. Government would simply use the money on a different entitlement program or give more to the existing welfare recipients.

Trump obviously doesn’t think that way. As much as he’s a populist, he’s got too big of an ego to ignore his own insight in order to buy votes. He clearly understands how people are more incentivized to work and drive the economy when they don’t have a welfare hammock to sleep in. He also understands that if you allow people to gain wealth without work, this is what they will do every time.

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

I also don’t like how illegals treat Americans; like dirt. All the things this country gives them including more money for each kid they reproduce and still treat Americans like garbage.

This hasn’t been my experience. I’m in Texas though, and we seem to operate under a “don’t ask don’t tell” mindset. I see plenty of Hispanic construction workers on a daily basis, and chances are the majority are not legal. They are always polite and respectful though. A big part of me doesn’t like the idea of them being deported. And yes, I’d like to hear plans for bring some of them into full citizenship if it can be done without causing financial strain on Americans. I would even consider financially supporting some voluntarily if it were possible.

I see this as a problem that started snowballing decades ago. That’s when the government decided not to deal with the issue, to kick the can down the road. The problem could have been fixed with a lot less pain, but now it needs to be fixed regardless of the cost.

Ok. Then do it.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

narwhal wrote:

I see this as a problem that started snowballing decades ago. That’s when the government decided not to deal with the issue, to kick the can down the road. The problem could have been fixed with a lot less pain, but now it needs to be fixed regardless of the cost.

Lol you’ve just described pretty much every issue challenging modern day America.

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