Trump has left the building

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Correct you were sold a charlatan by the system. He has appointed half of goldman sachs. That aint draining the swamp.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

So what do we do now? Accept that we are just going straight into the dark ages?

[TheWolfSheepFearSpectator 459]

Trump instantly supported Israel and had his daughter marry that jew. That alone makes him fishy too me. Seems to be towing the same line as all others. But at the same time he hasn’t even been president a full year yet so I’m hoping some more stuff comes through. S~~~ ain’t easy that’s for sure. The amount of scumbags pedophiles and satanists that have the world almost completely under their control is a force to be reckoned with. He has to deal with these s~~~ heads every inch of the way. I say let’s wait and see some more before jump to conclusions but I do agree with you being a white man who supports God or trump or anything other than feminist communist bulls~~~ is putting a target on your back. I have friends that make Facebook posts about going to their college with trump maga or traditional or religious tones etc. That literally act like it’s an achievement to do such a thing with out getting their asses kicked by 50 cowards. I couldn’t imagine trying to so that in a big city. I literally wouldn’t feel safe even less safe than I normally feel.

Please God smite the wicked now

[Anonymous 1]

Sandals wrote:

So what do we do now? Accept that we are just going straight into the dark ages?

Yeah, its inevitable. American Empire is now well into the collapse and decline phase. The infrastructure is already crumbling…

[AlmostWonderfulParticipant 63]

I’m here to have discussions, not just to talk at people. I am not going to repeatedly respond to straw mans and insults.

Here’s the thing: I don’t hate anyone simply for being Jewish or because their daughter married someone Jewish. If you do, that’s your choice.

I will never support the modern Democratic Party in any way, shape or form. Not just the Democratic Party, I will not support the late night talk show hosts, sports channels or liberal news channels that tow that party line. Why? Because not just one but numerous leaders of BLM have came out and called for the extermination of white people. Who is bankrolling that group? The Clinton Foundation is. The Obamas are. Soros is. Kellogs is. Who repeatedly puts them at the forefront of the news? Who repeatedly race baits, makes everything about race, does nothing but spark division among all Americans over things like race, sex, gender identity, etc. MSNBC, CNN, Facebook and even Google ride that short bus daily. I did away with my cable. I stopped watching Football because I couldn’t sit down and enjoy a game or even watch a sports show on ESPN without politics being inserted into it. I will not, in any shape, way or form support further division and destruction of this country. No politician who plays that game openly like Pelosi or Walters will ever get my vote, my support on the forums, my verbal support, my clicks on their website or my donations. It’s really as simple as that. Look at what Obama has done to race relations in 8 short years. I’ve simply heard enough from overweight kids at HARVARD screaming in the hallways, openly saying whites should be killed in school. I’m done listening to millionaires talk about discrimination. I am finished listening to Hollywood. I’m not alone. Look at the ticket sales for the box office lately. Look at the ticket sales for the NFL lately. Look at the number of cable subscribers. If everyone here wants to sit around and convince themselves they are powerless then do that but I’ve seen a lot of very positive changes taking place in our culture across racial and gender lines.

Do I think Trump is in trouble? Yes. Do I think he could have handled some things better? You bet. But it’s easy to sit around and play armchair quarterback. The guy won on a fraction of the money that Hillary had. He’s enabled ICE to bust trafficking, kidnapping, drug and pedophile rings around the country. He’s helped to create a climate that has allowed a lot of people in Hollywood to speak out about what is going on. You say he hasn’t done anything to CNN? Look at their ratings. He’s replied to them plenty of times, too many in my opinion. The federal government has handled these recent hurricanes much better than Rita or Katrina. Trump has gotten rid of over 800 Obama regulations. He’s signed an executive order to start the process of health insurance selling across state lines. Look at what has become of the NY Times and Rolling Stone magazine. He’s been a fiscal conservative, at least up until these Hurricanes hit. I don’t blame him for Obama Care not being repealed; I blame the Rhinos in the Republican Party. He offered plenty of compromise on that. People laughed at Trump when he talked about voter fraud. He was right. They laughed at him when he said he was under surveillance. He was right. And whatever the case, even if you see him as simply stalling the government or being ineffective, that’s better than what Hillary would have done. We have had far less refugees so far under Trump than we would have under Clinton, who openly sought to bring in over 1 million a year on top of what we were already getting. That was just for starters.

Trump, Bannon, Breitbart, etc have helped get rid of several sell outs, stop them from getting re-elected. I don’t know how many times they’ll be able to do that in 2018. My guess is a handful. That’s better than 0. Trump destroyed any hopes of Hillary being elected. He did it to Jeb too. It’s amazing how short everyone’s memory is. A lot of people in this country, on both sides of the spectrum are waking up, of all colors are waking up. Why do you think Trump got elected? Why do you think Hillary had to steal the nomination over Sanders? People are, more and more, coming to their senses and realizing this is a game. All this stuff you see on TV, shut it off. Most of the “racists” in VA were doxxed already by 4chan and are actors. Those people in Ferguson who burnt everything down? A lot of them, not all, but many were bused in by Soros. If you guys want to sit here and listen to people who clearly have an agenda and simply want to break your spirit by repeating themselves over and over, running on the hamster wheel, throwing around insults and using straw man arguments that’s fine. I’m not ready to give up. I’ve seen a lot of things going on this last year that I never thought I’d see happen.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

AlmostWonderful wrote:

I’m here to have discussions, not just to talk at people.

Welcome! Good to see you.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

I am not going to repeatedly respond to straw mans and insults.

Nobody recommends you do. However, if you’re going to insert little directed condescending remarks into your argument, then you need to be prepared to have someone respond to it in like fashion. I welcome your intellect and your wit, but will respond in kind with condescension. I don’t welcome a double standard. If you want to argue, argue, but don’t expect anyone to agree with you and don’t take it personally when you hear an opposing opinion – that’s what pumpkins and snowflakes expect.

It’s usually the people who blame others who are doing the thing themselves, right?

AlmostWonderful wrote:

Here’s the thing: I don’t hate anyone simply for being Jewish or because their daughter married someone Jewish. If you do, that’s your choice.

The banking cartels and the media cartels are owned by Jews. This is a fact – so nobody get offended by it, please. The political cartel and church cartel, however, is run by Christians, and White Night-ism is built into organized Christianity at it’s very core – the idea that you should turn the other cheek when your wife slaps you, etc…

Notice the choice of words: I don’t say “Jews run hollyweird”, I say, “Hollywerid is run by Jews”, and the difference is important. It’s not “Jews run the banking cartels”, but rather, “The banking cartels are run by Jews”, meaning not all Jews are in on this plot.

The Vatican is also run by Christians, and those who have read David Duke’s material will know all about the “Jewish problem” but won’t necessarily know about the “Christian Problem” from the Vatican, because Duke claims to be a Christian and doesn’t talk about that in his books, but the info is out there if people want to learn about it. So I maintain this is a class problem with racial undertones, rather than a race problem with class undertones.

The Church has every bit as much pedophilia and homosexuality as hollyweird, and the Vatican (which is it’s own country – most people don’t know that) is just as corrupt and as much a part of the banking cartels as the Fed, and into communist brainwashing through churches as it hollyweird through television. It does you no good to shut off the television if you still go to church – you’re still getting the brainwashing and being robbed.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

I will never support the modern Democratic Party in any way, shape or form. Not just the Democratic Party, I will not support the late night talk show hosts, sports channels or liberal news channels that tow that party line. Why? Because not just one but numerous leaders of BLM have came out and called for the extermination of white people. Who is bankrolling that group? The Clinton Foundation is. The Obamas are. Soros is. Kellogs is. Who repeatedly puts them at the forefront of the news? Who repeatedly race baits, makes everything about race, does nothing but spark division among all Americans over things like race, sex, gender identity, etc. MSNBC, CNN, Facebook and even Google ride that short bus daily. I did away with my cable. I stopped watching Football because I couldn’t sit down and enjoy a game or even watch a sports show on ESPN without politics being inserted into it. I will not, in any shape, way or form support further division and destruction of this country. No politician who plays that game openly like Pelosi or Walters will ever get my vote, my support on the forums, my verbal support, my clicks on their website or my donations. It’s really as simple as that. Look at what Obama has done to race relations in 8 short years. I’ve simply heard enough from overweight kids at HARVARD screaming in the hallways, openly saying whites should be killed in school. I’m done listening to millionaires talk about discrimination.

Welcome to the club. I think you will find few in disagreement here.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

The federal government has handled these recent hurricanes much better than Rita or Katrina.

If you don’t watch television, then where did you get the idea it’s the federal government’s job to clean up after hurricanes? We have an entire industry for that: insurance. Anything left over can be handled by the state government, but the rest of the country shouldn’t pay for it. Everyone knows the trade-off: good weather for natural disasters. People have choices.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

You bet. But it’s easy to sit around and play armchair quarterback. The guy won on a fraction of the money that Hillary had.

Because he called out Soros and said he’d put Hillary in jail for her crimes. Now they are all getting away free, and Manafort, Assange, and Trump are all under investigation. You think me being upset about this is playing armchair quarterback? Is looking at a trend (all the good players out of the white house and the enemies and democrats in) playing armchair quarterback? What exactly are you suggesting? That we just wait and see? A trend is a trend.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

People are, more and more, coming to their senses and realizing this is a game. All this stuff you see on TV, shut it off.

This is where we are in major disagreement. Trump was not elected to “slow” anything down. Trump was elected to shock the system. When W was elected, it was an anti-war election. W had Republicans in the house, senate, and the supreme court. THAT’S when people were WOKEN UP! We got the Iraq war, the bailout, 20 trillion in debt, and Roberts (Republican) who gave us Obamacare.

People do not need to “come to their senses”. They are AWAKE already. And, being now awake, they wielded the only power they have against the money changers and media makers: democracy.

I realize I am in danger of insulting you, and my apologies for having to put it this way, because I think you are a nice guy and very intelligent, but I think it is you who needs to come to your senses. Trump was not brought in to “slow” anything down. Trump was specifically brought in to shock the system, voted in by people who are already awake. What you fail to see is that no more awakening is needed.

All the awakening required to usher in Trump has already happened. It’s game over. It is you who now needs to awaken to certain ugly realities that you don’t want to see or believe, and I am sorry if that comes off as insulting to you. I see no other way to put it, other than to say this is the political corner, and politics is harsh. But I still like you, and you’re still a brother.

Trump was hired to be a brutal dictator. That was his pitch. Deport every, arrest everybody, usurp congress’s authority, restore rule of law, and have the cop’s back when they root out everyone. Politicians are all talk no action. Build a wall and use force to make the enemy pay for it. Trump said he “believes in good genetics”. Trump said, “We gotta get rid of” the national debt. Trump’s life was threatened at least four times during the election and he was inaugurated behind bullet proof glass. The awakening you seek has already happened, and as a result, Trump was hired to be Hitler, Mao, and Stalin all rolled into one to save the people of European descent from the invading and ruling foreigners who are attacking and destroying our civilization.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

We have had far less refugees so far under Trump than we would have under Clinton, who openly sought to bring in over 1 million a year on top of what we were already getting. That was just for starters.

And this is the worst possible outcome that could have happened!

Three things could have happened:

1.) Hillary won and country is taken over for foreigners and rapefugees
2.) Trump wins, shocks the system, and deports everybody and arrests everybody and reverses all trends and starts over with a brand new government and a new law and order benefiting the citizens of this country
3.) Trump wins and gets neutered by the deep state, and the process continues, although at a slower rate.

If Hillary won, then at least we would know the existing system would get replaced with a slave state with white males as the slaves to women, children, minorities, and foreigners. We could get the f~~~ out, which is what I was planning on doing, and make preparations to save ourselves.

If Trump shocks the system and becomes a brutal dictator, which is what he signaled he would do while campaigning, then we can have our country back.

But Trump has, as you say, only slowed the trend. You’re talking about lowering a constant factor in an exponential equation, and it seems to me you don’t you understand the implications of that mathematical statement. Do you? That means what would have happened in one year will now happen in five years, and then iterate in one year at the exponent. You must understand this. Some things may have changed, but nothing has (nor will) effectively change.

Who do you think did the LV shooting? It was aimed at Trump fans and country music, blamed on an innocent white man who could not have possibly done it by logic alone, and then completely removed from the “news media” for the Harvey sex scandal. Think. “Come to your senses”. Think.

[AlmostWonderfulParticipant 63]

Siiigh… Sandals, I was responding to a post by someone else that was criticizing Trump and his daughter for the fact she is married to a Jewish man. That is why I pointed out I don’t hate anyone for simply being Jewish. With that said, I understand just because I don’t hate someone because of their race or religion, that doesn’t mean they’re going to take the same approach with me. This is why I do not support any person or organization that actively attacks me based on my skin color or funds those that do.

The reason I’m not got to sit here and respond point by point to you anymore Sandals is because you do not know how to have a 2 way discussion with anyone. You are on a one way street called Sandals Avenue and things go out but nothing comes in.

Let me explain to you what I mean: You will often take a single point someone made, sometimes not even directly respond to it and then blurt out a paragraph of vaguely related points. This is called a blitzkrieg. Although usually your points are related and they are fashioned like a reply, often they are not because you are simply taking one point, sometimes addressing it and sometimes not, then responding with 20 more of your opinions. You cannot have a productive discussion with anyone this way. You are simply talking at other people.

In any corporate meeting where there are more than a few people present, you have to take things point by point, in a chronological order or at least an order than makes sense. By doing this, everyone gets a chance to speak and everyone gets to respond. If someone tells me “we need to create a report for last month’s expenses” then I go on a tangent for 15 minutes about that report, reports in general, whose fault everything is, etc. then that seems like a reply, it is even on topic but in reality all I’ve done is talked at everyone, wasted everyone’s time, made people feel defensive and force them to respond, which triggers more useless discussion and tensions, then probably not even gotten the problem at hand actually discussed. No one has learned anything. No one has had any fun. Everyone walks away liking each other a little less and a little more stressed out.

Just blurting out your ideas as you see fit, at people, instead of actually only responding to their point or simply saying you agree with something when you do, makes it seem like all you want to do is come on here and preach at everyone, which is exactly what you’re doing. It is not a discussion, it is a soapbox. It is something born of hubris. If I was to sit here and quote everything you said in your last post, I’d be responding to 100 things. It’s a an off road dump truck with a destination to nowhere. It’s not that I disagree with everything you say, it’s just that I can’t always take part in the political rantings of someone who is overly overly emotional and not willing to listen to others, someone who doesn’t understand the basics of having a discussion.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I voted for Trump for 3 main reasons.

1. Get rid of Obamacare and do something with healthcare reform that actually brings down the cost of care itself rather than just throw billions more into a broken industry. The democrats wanted to double down on Obamacare, and the republicans failed repeatedly to put a repeal bill on his desk…so Trump gutted the ACA via executive order, which ironically is how Obama made many changes to it, and last I saw him talking about healthcare was talking about how we get robbed on drug prices when you can go to a different country and get the same drugs made in the same labs and put into the same packages for 1/4 of the price. I don’t know where healthcare reform will go from here, but so far, Trump’s winning. Even if all he does is gut Obamacare by executive order and no replacement or healthcare reform at all is passed its still an improvement.

2. Crack down on illegal immigration. Winning so far and more winning to come. He scared some of them right up to Canada and it was like music to my ears listening to Canada whine about it. I’m convinced he will take a harder stance here than any of the other candidates republican or democrat would have done.

3. Tax reform…I’m all for getting rid of a bunch of write offs, increasing the standard deduction for all, and simplifying the tax code for wage earners. I don’t think the government should be social engineers via the tax code. I also think its ludicrous big business with multi million dollar accounting departments can get down to single digit tax rates while small business get crushed. This is a work in progress…we’ll see what actually gets put on his desk, if anything, for him to sign, and if its a step forward or backwards.

So far with not even a year in office Trump hasn’t disappointed me on 2 out of the 3 reasons I voted for him. The fact that he p~~~es liberals off beyond belief every second of the day is just icing on the cake. Obviously no single person can just wave a magic wand and fix a f~~~ed up country over night, but I think we are at least starting to steer the ship back in the right direction.

@sandals sorry dude but that looks a lot like a list you got off Huffington Post or something.

Trump supporters getting beat up without repercussions? Loss? What the f~~~? What do you want Trump to do…that’s an issue for local law enforcement…do you want him to start a federal agency to go beat up left wingers at protests?

No repercussions for torturing Otto Warmbier? What the f~~~ you want…nuclear war over 1 retard? I don’t feel bad for idiots that want to travel to s~~~ holes like North Korea, Syria, Iraq, etc.

Moving into the White House…loss? Serious?

Cnn ripping into him 24/7 without repercussions…loss? What do you want him to do…state takeover of the media?

Female education secretary…loss? Why? She’s going to war against title 9, which I think is f~~~ing awesome. If it was a man doing the same thing they’d have turned it into a major woman’s issue but since a woman is calling bulls~~~ on it the liberals can’t.

Hollyweird not shut down for pedo crimes? So you want Trump to shut down an entire industry now?

Trumps not perfect, he’s said/done some stuff in office that has made me cringe, and if you don’t like him as president and have some valid reasons I can respect your opinion…but most of the crap on that list you posted I’m hoping is a copy paste job from somewhere you really didn’t read, because if you came up with it on your own, you just may be one of the dumbest f~~~s posting on these forums.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

AlmostWonderful wrote:

Let me explain to you what I mean: You will often take a single point someone made, sometimes not even directly respond to it and then blurt out a paragraph of vaguely related points. This is called a blitzkrieg. Although usually your points are related and they are fashioned like a reply, often they are not because you are simply taking one point, sometimes addressing it and sometimes not, then responding with 20 more of your opinions. You cannot have a productive discussion with anyone this way. You are simply talking at other people.

When it comes to discussions, I am very specific, and I go point by point, which is what you are claiming I do not do. You on the other hand, are not discussion the topic. You are instead, “discussing the discussion” which is the exact thing the Russian Communist Manual on Psychopolitics says for infiltrators to do in meetings. Instead of staying on point, you gently slide the conversation away, using emotional manipulation and attempting to garner sympathy from the other members at the table, and then claim that I’m not sticking to the point.

You’re either an infiltrator or a chick. Probably the former, since you were the first one to make condescending remarks, and now you return seeking sympathy for my not discussing things according to your method, when in reality I was just proving my point, and you have no response.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

it’s just that I can’t always take part in the political rantings of someone who is overly overly emotional and not willing to listen to others, someone who doesn’t understand the basics of having a discussion.

And yet, you are here writing back. In the time it took you to write about your “emotional” stuff, you could have just responded with logic, like a man.

AlmostWonderful wrote:

If someone tells me “we need to create a report for last month’s expenses” then I go on a tangent for 15 minutes about that report, reports in general, whose fault everything is, etc. then that seems like a reply, it is even on topic but in reality all I’ve done is talked at everyone, wasted everyone’s time,

hmmm…and yet, that is exactly what your reply is. By talking about going on a tangent, you are in fact going on a tangent, since going on tangents have nothing to do with Trump or or the conversation or anything anyone else at our little corporate meeting here are stated. So that is called projection. It’s well documented here: Stop Walking on Eggshells

Have you noticed every else’s comments have something to do with the actually original posting, except for yours? In fact, now we are totally off-topic, and probably nobody wants to respond now because you have thrown this discussion off the rails. Good work commie.

I even tried breaking the ice with welcoming you and calling you brother. But all you want to do is be personally offended at facts and arguments I present.

Than again, with a name like AlmostWonderful, I should have expected you to try using me as an emotional tampon. We’re pretty good at sniffing chicks like you out, girl. You always write in the exact same style and let logical arguments upset your feelings.

You’re obviously a chick. Bye bye now.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Sandals wrote:

2.) Trump wins, shocks the system, and deports everybody and arrests everybody and reverses all trends and starts over with a brand new government and a new law and order benefiting the citizens of this country

I don’t think you realize the logistics behind this.

First off…to deport every illegal…there are 20,000 ICE employees and an estimated 11 million illegals. Every ICE employee would have had to single handedly deported 550 illegals in the 10 months Trump was in office to have “deported everybody.” Provided ICE could even round them all up that quickly the courts couldn’t process it that quickly, we don’t have the facilities to detain them all, and ICE doesn’t have the resources to transport them all.

Second…arrests everybody, reverses all trends, and starts over with a brand new government? Nobody could do that in 10 months. A extremely bloody and violent revolution wouldn’t be able to do that in 10 months. Even if Trump made a lot of arrests of corrupt people who all happen to be rich and powerful its all going to be tied up in courts for years and many of them would get off anyhow because they have money, contacts, and the best lawyers.

I’m not defending our current system, but what you seem to be disappointed about Trump not being able to pull off in 10 months, they aren’t things anybody could have pulled off in 10 months.

Sandals wrote:

3.) Trump wins and gets neutered by the deep state, and the process continues, although at a slower rate.

You do realize the president has limited powers and isn’t a dictator with the final say in everything, don’t you? If Congress won’t put bills on his desk he is quite limited in what he can do. He can’t just draft his own laws and sign them off, and I’m quite glad the president can’t…just imagine how much worse the Obama years would have been.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

TheWolfSheepFear wrote:

Trump instantly supported Israel and had his daughter marry that jew. That alone makes him fishy too me. Seems to be towing the same line as all others. But at the same time he hasn’t even been president a full year yet so I’m hoping some more stuff comes through. S~~~ ain’t easy that’s for sure. The amount of scumbags pedophiles and satanists that have the world almost completely under their control is a force to be reckoned with. He has to deal with these s~~~ heads every inch of the way. I say let’s wait and see some more before jump to conclusions but I do agree with you being a white man who supports God or trump or anything other than feminist communist bulls~~~ is putting a target on your back. I have friends that make Facebook posts about going to their college with trump maga or traditional or religious tones etc. That literally act like it’s an achievement to do such a thing with out getting their asses kicked by 50 cowards. I couldn’t imagine trying to so that in a big city. I literally wouldn’t feel safe even less safe than I normally feel.

Trump is transactional in what he does. He will add or drop whatever he feels is necessary to pull off what he wants. Outside of winning, there is little Trump has documented as being consistent in what he has. His idea now is to try to get America to “win” (whatever that means, outside of maybe it means he wins), and being pro-Israel is a view that is more favorable political. Trump will bargain anything away to get a better transaction. In light of this, about everything does Trump does, makes sense. For example, assume the Democrats take over congress, and push a universal single payer system. Trump will sign off on it, if the optics looked good and he would go up in the polls for it.

If supporting Israel wasn’t a winning issue, Trump wouldn’t be behind it. Expect Trump to bargain it away, if necessary. He shows this, like he will sign off on DACA if the wall funded. He would also end up strengthening Obamacare if the Wall gets funded, or something else.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Beer wrote:

@sandals sorry dude but that looks a lot like a list you got off Huffington Post or something

I wouldn’t know. I have never read an article from there.

Beer wrote:

Trump supporters getting beat up without repercussions? Loss? What the f~~~? What do you want Trump to do…that’s an issue for local law enforcement…

Beer, the first job of the president is to be the commander in chief of the military and the chief law enforcement officer of the nation. The president’s job is not to lower the cost of drugs.

Beer wrote:

No repercussions for torturing Otto Warmbier? What the f~~~ you want…nuclear war over 1 retard? I don’t feel bad for idiots that want to travel to s~~~ holes like North Korea, Syria, Iraq, etc.

The repercussions of allowing torture of an American will extend far beyond Otto. He did not deserve to be tortured, and if you don’t feel bad for that, then you don’t have a heart. Be careful for what you wish for – if another country can torture him, they can torture you too.

Beer wrote:

Moving into the White House…loss? Serious?

It’s been constant leaks since he moved in there. The place is obviously compromised. He could have worked from Mara Lago and just traveled to the White house to do a press conference once a week, or pretended like he moved in, or built a new white house.

Beer wrote:

Cnn ripping into him 24/7 without repercussions…loss? What do you want him to do…state takeover of the media?

Remove non-profit status and back tax, and arrest for causing a public disturbance and causing riots. Lots of laws on the books can be used to take these so-called media companies out. Why is it Rebublicans are OK with democrats strong-arming us and f~~~ing us up the ass, but cry foul when a Republican tries to fight for us using the same tactics. Republicans are suicidal as a political party.

Beer wrote:

Female education secretary…loss? Why? She’s going to war against title 9, which I think is f~~~ing awesome. If it was a man doing the same thing they’d have turned it into a major woman’s issue but since a woman is calling bulls~~~ on it the liberals can’t.

Government is government. If it’s not title 9, it’s something else. There’s a law for everything, and they’ll get you one way or another. You have to cut the head off the snake, not the branches from a tree. Get rid of public education, lower taxes, and replace with charter schools. We’ll pay less and get better education.

And to take a page from Ayn Rand, are you suggesting that out of all the men in this country, there was not one man available and capable to run the department of education?

Beer wrote:

you just may be one of the dumbest f~~~s posting on these forums.

I’m with El C~~~o Punto on this one:

IRuleMe wrote:

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Beer wrote:

You do realize the president has limited powers and isn’t a dictator with the final say in everything, don’t you? If Congress won’t put bills on his desk he is quite limited in what he can do. He can’t just draft his own laws and sign them off, and I’m quite glad the president can’t…just imagine how much worse the Obama years would have been.

The Obama years were much worse. They were as worse as it could possibly get. It couldn’t get any worse.

I guess we just see things very differently. That’s fine.

[AlmostWonderfulParticipant 63]

Beer wrote:

@sandals sorry dude but that looks a lot like a list you got off Huffington Post or something.

Trump supporters getting beat up without repercussions? Loss? What the f~~~? What do you want Trump to do…that’s an issue for local law enforcement…do you want him to start a federal agency to go beat up left wingers at protests?

No repercussions for torturing Otto Warmbier? What the f~~~ you want…nuclear war over 1 retard? I don’t feel bad for idiots that want to travel to s~~~ holes like North Korea, Syria, Iraq, etc.

Moving into the White House…loss? Serious?

Cnn ripping into him 24/7 without repercussions…loss? What do you want him to do…state takeover of the media?

Female education secretary…loss? Why? She’s going to war against title 9, which I think is f~~~ing awesome. If it was a man doing the same thing they’d have turned it into a major woman’s issue but since a woman is calling bulls~~~ on it the liberals can’t.

Hollyweird not shut down for pedo crimes? So you want Trump to shut down an entire industry now?

Trumps not perfect, he’s said/done some stuff in office that has made me cringe, and if you don’t like him as president and have some valid reasons I can respect your opinion…but most of the crap on that list you posted I’m hoping is a copy paste job from somewhere you really didn’t read, because if you came up with it on your own, you just may be one of the dumbest f~~~s posting on these forums.

Great post. I agreed with almost all of it, even the parts I didn’t quote. But I knew coming in that he wouldn’t be able to deliver on everything, no matter how hard he tried.

Yes, the list looked like it was something off of Huffpro. Many items repeat on the list and it seems like it’s something written by someone who has been stewing for a long time, certainly not someone who just “saw the light”

As you pointed out, a lot of these points are also not grounded in reality. There is no practicality behind many of the criticisms. No, Trump cannot start a federal agency to go beat up left wing protesters nor can he preside over local law enforcement as a dictator. What happened to Warmbier was horrible but it’s certainly not worth going to war over. He made a choice for his family, the wrong one. Hopefully there are others out there like him that will take it as a wake up call and not make the same choice he did. The rest of it, bravo again. I like the Secretary of Education, what she’s doing. I like how CNN’s ratings have taken a tumble. I’m with you, I don’t want Trump to pull a state takeover of the media. He couldn’t if he wanted to anyways. I am ecstatic about Hollywood and that is another swamp that needs to be drained.

Also, the post about immigration, the logistics, behind it, etc by Beers is dead on.

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Sandals wrote:

Beer, the first job of the president is to be the commander in chief of the military and the chief law enforcement officer of the nation. The president’s job is not to lower the cost of drugs.

I never said it was his job, and he can’t do anything about it on his own…but that doesn’t mean I’m not glad he’s actually talking about real problems with our healthcare system. Every president spits out things they want congress to work on, I don’t know why you think Trump wouldn’t do this, and if he didn’t, you’d probably call that another one of his fails, wouldn’t you?

Sandals wrote:

The repercussions of allowing torture of an American will extend far beyond Otto. He did not deserve to be tortured, and if you don’t feel bad for that, then you don’t have a heart. Be careful for what you wish for – if another country can torture him, they can torture you too.

What repercussions would you want to see? We’ve already put pretty much every time of sanction on NK that we possible could before this even happened. Would you like to see bombs dropped? Would you like to see ground troops sent in?

Sandals wrote:

It’s been constant leaks since he moved in there. The place is obviously compromised. He could have worked from Mara Lago and just traveled to the White house to do a press conference once a week, or pretended like he moved in, or built a new white house.

Right…like members of the press are sneaking into the White House planting bugs to spy on the president and the White House security is too inept to ever find any of them…

Its totally impossible that the “leaks” are from whistle blowers, staffers who are getting paid off, people who just have big mouths and say things when they shouldn’t, or just totally fabricated by the media.

Sandals wrote:

Remove non-profit status and back tax, and arrest for causing a public disturbance and causing riots. Lots of laws on the books can be used to take these so-called media companies out. Why is it Rebublicans are OK with democrats strong-arming us and f~~~ing us up the ass, but cry foul when a Republican tries to fight for us using the same tactics. Republicans are suicidal as a political party.

How exactly do you remove non-profit status from CNN when they aren’t a non-profit to begin with. In case you didn’t know CNN made approximately a billion dollars in gross profits in 2016 and is owned by Time Warner.

Sandals wrote:

Government is government. If it’s not title 9, it’s something else. There’s a law for everything, and they’ll get you one way or another. You have to cut the head off the snake, not the branches from a tree. Get rid of public education, lower taxes, and replace with charter schools. We’ll pay less and get better education.

Well…you obviously have no clue about how our education funding works. Most of it is funded by state and local taxes.

Even if Trump could cut federal spending on education entirely its not going to have the result you want.

Sandals wrote:

And to take a page from Ayn Rand, are you suggesting that out of all the men in this country, there was not one man available and capable to run the department of education?

I’m saying I don’t give a flying f~~~ if she’s a woman because she is doing a good job. Am I suppose to hate a woman who I think is doing a good job just because she’s a woman?

Sandals wrote:

The Obama years were much worse. They were as worse as it could possibly get. It couldn’t get any worse.

*facepalm* I said they’d have been worse if the president could draft and sign his own legislation, which is what you seem to be upset Trump isn’t doing. If the president could do that the Obama years would have been MUCH MUCH MUCH worse.

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AlmostWonderful wrote:

But I knew coming in that he wouldn’t be able to deliver on everything, no matter how hard he tried.

Yeah…nobody could have. Even if he was a dictator that could just do whatever the f~~~ he wanted and everyone had to listen, I still don’t think he could have pulled off enough change in 10 months to make Sandals happy with his performance.

Sandals is obviously just a butthurt liberal idiot.

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Nothing you are saying makes sense to me. I understand we have differences of opinion, but you seem really really hurt that I don’t agree with your points. I mean really emotionally hurt. We’re just talking.

Although…

Beer wrote:

Sandals is obviously just a butthurt liberal idiot.

There is something really off about people who use this phrase. It’s really gross, to be honest, and there’s a very strange psychology behind it. It’s an instant credibility-killer, for sure. Anyway, I definitely don’t want to know the back-story.

The *facepalm*, the “you have no clue”, you’re interpretation of “repercussion”, the emotional hand-holding between you two and AlmostWonderful like girls headed to the bathroom, etc… There is something really strange about the way you communicate, like you are trying so hard to “show” everyone else around here how piffed you are that I think differently from you, almost… in a divide and conquer sort of way (hmmm…). Do you seek division on the boards here? Are you aware that you are not being a nice person? Why are you even here?

I have yet to understand why men come to political corner and then get personally offended when someone has a different perspective. Just remember, it’s you who say “butthurt liberal idiot”.

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