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Anonymous42The “T” in TRADCON means “traditional”, I ask you where is the traditional role of a man?
ANSWER: Crushed flat under the wheels of feminism and gynocentrism!
TRADCON is a dream world that has no roots based in reality, erosion, and scouring by modern empowered and enabled women.
TRADCON is a myth, a lie, a place for a man to go and die on feminism’s cross of equality!
Jesus was crucified, no more crucifixions are necessary. Let them nail themselves to the cross of feminism, bleed out, then DIE!
Yes, trad cons hate men except for what men can provide financially. This has always been the case.
The story of the father with the shot gun making sure the horse wear’s his yoke. This is usually considered a trad con story.
Trad cons would have us march down the marriage isle with a gun at the back of our heads. They hate men more than leftists who at least don’t think of men as “only” slaves.
But progressives/liberal/leftist types think men should naturally “want” to live on the plantation because it’s so great. No nagging, constant sex…it’s perfect.
Both sides of a s~~~ty coin. Don’t make your future be decided by the flip of a coin for which you lose on both outcomes.
Walk away from the coin and go your own way.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Just talking out of my ass here but….
as the choice between two evils I’d take a Tradcon marriage every time. (1) There would be a division of domestic labor that respects the natural order of things, (2) as husband, I would be regarded as the family leader and (3) there would be no divisive careerism between spouses, meaning my career would be supported for the greater sake of the family, etc.
And, I’m guessing that the chance of divorce is reduced by marrying a woman who plays by the Tradcon rules because such women value the institution of marriage and regard marriage as a permanent commitment. (Could be wrong on this one; I haven’t seen any reliable figures if there are any.)
But that’s just out of my ass, a thought experiment, as they say. I don’t need to choose between two evils. Marriage is still a rigged wheel of chance. Sometimes winning looks sooooo much like losing that it’s not worth the play.
Anonymous2Traditionalism is just “the other feminism”. It’s still built on male disposability. The thing that is really annoying about these tradcon politicians is that they want to shame men for not taking on traditional gender roles, but they won’t shame women for not doing the same. In other words, they are absolutely no different than feminists. They want men to continue playing the role of the dispisable male while women get to do as they please without having to adhere to any traditional gender roles, nor will these tradcon politicians make any changes to the legal system that has destroyed marriage with its gynocentric laws. If you’re a man, you’re just supposed to suck it up and take that s~~~ deal. Yeah, no thanks.
Just don’t get married nor cohabit -simple but sound advice.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Just talking out of my ass
I’ve been doing mrm forums for over 20 years and can tell you some things that trad-con men complain about. Trad con relationships are just as fragile as other relationships. Same divorce rate.
There is a very small “headship” community within the backbone of Trad-Cons, Christianity.
The mrm posts dealing with this would indicate that most churches have been completely taken over by women and headship for men is not something that is emphasized.
Instead, the responsibility of marriage falls on men. Women need not comply.
The minister reinforces this by telling men they should make their wife happy and they should get married to all the single mom’s in the church.
I’m not a trad-con but that is what a lot of men write and includes a year on a “headship” forum. I went there for the MRA value.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
The tradcons want us to be a part of the system, because a system that has dwindling participation rates, typically don’t last too long. The system works, for [them] most of the time. So they want to keep it going
Remember, just because the Democrats are assholes does not make the Republicans automatically our friends. That goes for “Conservatives” as well.
I agree.^
It goes deeper. The socalled system of democracy and politics has become corrupted by the globalists and is subservient to the private banking system. (Kennedy was the last President to challenge the private bankers by attempting to take back control of the privately owned FED dollar – its not a US government dollar.)
Elections in this era have mostly been an illusion of choice in a 2 party system and nothing much changes. Feminism is a convenient tool of the debt system and its globalisation ideology – this does not change just because someone is elected. Power lies behind in the international debt creating banking system and the corporate power structures of globalisation and their political associates. This is so prevalent in the political system it is not questioned.
For example, in Europe countries were economically captured since the socalled banking crisis of 2008 (in which the massive debts of private banks were unjustly transferred to citizens) and those governments (and thus the people) were made further beholden to the control of the international debt system. Also the monetary system is part of all this. You may be familiar with the quote from Rothschild: “Give me control of a nation’s money supply, and I care not who makes its laws”.
Marriage, Feminism, Gynocentrism are all policy aspects of this debt system that encourages and often keeps men working as debt slaves; encourages and supports women and men to consume more and create more debt that the husbands pay for and facilitates womens control over men; and a small elite become incredibly rich from the global debt system. 50% of the worlds wealth is owned by around 100 people.
Females are too irrational and emotional to take an overall systems view – the bigger picture. Taking away women’s voting privileges would be a step in the right direction but this will not happen – the system is beyond fixing and cannot be saved. Systems trundle on until they fail they do not redesign themselves. This system/ paradigm has been gradually failing as it is unsustainable. MGTOW is a logical choice.
All that said the Trump phenomenon is very interesting – the globalists and their mainstream media such as CNN have been throwing their toys out of the pram and making up lies about Trump. imho Americans will clearly be better off with Trump as president rather than Hilary. Hilary is clearly a globalist and is a criminal.
Hillary’s Crime Sheet: Five Reasons Hillary Clinton Should be in Prison
See also
Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready
Anonymous42Traditionalism is just “the other feminism”. It’s still built on male disposability.
The minister reinforces this by telling men they should make their wife happy and they should get married to all the single mom’s in the church.
The church has become the brokers for feminism’s carnage! All busted to pieces where family means a plethora of people in the church, state, and LAW! One monolithic massive conglomeration gear for one purpose and one purpose and that’s to marry man to SATIN! The destruction of his sovereignty to be ruled over and above by the hive that enslaves him to a life of utter F~~~ING MISERY!
Face it gentlemen, we’re fighting for our NATURAL RIGHTS!
MAN WAS NOT CREATED TO BE RAPED AND ABUSED BY WOMEN AND THE HIVE!
Strong independent men only have MGTOW to remain STRONG INDEPENDENT MEN!
Marry, cohabit, date, fraternize with modern women and you’re PLAYING WITH FIRE!
Let Eve f~~~ the Snake! Don’t be Adam and take a bite of her lethal fruit!
This isn’t the old days where there wasn’t any laws against being NATURAL MEN!
Now our god given nature is being labeled TOXIC MASCULINITY!
How much s~~~ must fly before men WISE THE F~~~ UP???
Look at the SLAUGHTER PATH FEMINISM HAS DRAGGED THROUGH HISTORY! Dead children and their butchered body parts!
Destroyed the institution of marriage and changed it to mean something entirely else!
Count up the man hours of men enslaved to a family that dissolved and made him primary slave supporter! Decades and decades, now generations!
The man hours enslaves to this sort of system over these perverted generations, converted to pennies, would make the national debt look like a grain of sand on a beach!
And now women are angrier than EVER and OUT TO GET EVERY DROP OF MALE BLOOD THEY CAN!
#METOO #BURNANOTHERMAN
Anonymous42Women have harnessed the government, media, and the LAW, transforming it and creating a FLAME THROWER FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF BURNING MEN!
A man would have to have an IQ of .6 not to SEE IT!
It’s no wonder they think we’re f~~~ing stupid!
#THEAWAKENING
n illusion of choice in a 2 party system
Correct 2 mask on the same face-same people always win whoever wins.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
TradCons? Those guys? Yea, F~~~ THOSE GUYS!
#MANOUT!
#ICETHEMOUT!#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS
The “T” in TRADCON means “traditional”, I ask you where is the traditional role of a man?
ANSWER: Crushed flat under the wheels of feminism and gynocentrism!
TRADCON is a dream world that has no roots based in reality, erosion, and scouring by modern empowered and enabled women.
TRADCON is a myth, a lie, a place for a man to go and die on feminism’s cross of equality!
Jesus was crucified, no more crucifixions are necessary. Let them nail themselves to the cross of feminism, bleed out, then DIE!
F~~~ING BRILLIANT!
#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS
TradCons = TradCucks
It’s one of the reasons Trump won, the Alt-Right no longer trusted TradCuck lifetime politicians.
Sovereignty above all else.
Gasping utterances from a dying corpse.
What ever the social contract was that led men to put themselves in harness to women and marriage and the traditional family……….has been nuked. And by the very people who were gaining the most from it.
Now men are waking up to the toxic nature of the arrangement, and more importantly, sharing with our brothers, across important sites like mgtow, the reality of the matrix.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
MGTOW is the only social ‘group’ that doesn’t tell people who to do.
Sure we do.
Don’t co-habitate, don’t get married, avoid women, be a monk…
Common themes within MGTOW. In fact, that drum gets beaten an awful lot on here, and within MGTOW.
They are given out as warnings, not as requirements or mandates. Huge, huge difference.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Anonymous14Women have harnessed the government, media, and the LAW, transforming it and creating a FLAME THROWER FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF BURNING MEN!
I would say that those who have “harnessed” the U.S. Government, Media, and Law have given women the lead for Globalist/Leftist reasons. I do not think this has all sprung organically from women themselves.
Paul Ryan leaves a lot unsaid. Women can have as many children as they desire with a minimum of male input. With that in mind Ryan should be addressing women exclusively, but what Ryan wants and women in general want is access to a mans labor and resources. The fact is that women aren’t the problem, men are, they’ve caught on to the scam and are opting out. Whether a man considers himself MGTOW or even knows the term, he can see the what women have become and just says no thanks. Really it’s just a simple math problem, add all the negatives of marriage and subtract the positives and the answer is…….. MGTOW.
So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key. Eagles
I don’t think conservatives claim Paul Ryan as a conservative. He may be a TRADCON as you mention, but the conservatives I have heard do not claim him.
I guess you’re right. But I prefer telling people the risks of the above not telling them not to,
Exactly! In the current times and society, the risks are what matters. Sharing experiences of guys who have been through the marriage and divorce mill is showing them the risks. If after they have been told those risks and they still want to cohabitate or marry, they can’t say they weren’t told what could happen to them.
Tradcon women are actually the most dangerous kind, feminist women pale in comparison.
This is the rank of threat:
1st Tradcon women
2nd Radfems
3rd sex-positive feministsRadfems hate men more than tradcon women, but they have no chances to exploit a man through marriage contract / cohabitation palimony hidden contract.
Sex-positive feminists are naive, they’re confused about their interests, they’re theoretically mostly harmless – but be careful: no woman is a pure sex-positive feminist, all them are just only partially so, with minor portions of tradcon and radfem into the mix.Then there’s a subset that is deadly: mostly tradcon but with a minor portion of radfem.
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Traditionalism is just “the other feminism”. It’s still built on male disposability. The thing that is really annoying about these tradcon politicians is that they want to shame men for not taking on traditional gender roles, but they won’t shame women for not doing the same. In other words, they are absolutely no different than feminists. They want men to continue playing the role of the dispisable male while women get to do as they please without having to adhere to any traditional gender roles, nor will these tradcon politicians make any changes to the legal system that has destroyed marriage with its gynocentric laws. If you’re a man, you’re just supposed to suck it up and take that s~~~ deal. Yeah, no thanks.
They do it because chivalry.
Traditionalism has the seed of its destruction built-in: chivalry.
Traditionalism cannot oppose feminism, due chivalry.
This is typical of western societies, and western societies are all affected by chivalry: it doesn’t matter if a man is right-wing/capitalist/leftist/communist, he’s still taught to be chivalrous towards women. That also explain why an actual communist and equalist society like USSR or China actually have (had for USSR) a less feminist/gynocentric society compared to actual west.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
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