Too Nice n How I found MGTOW

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  • #420607
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    AgentJakeOz
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    My ex told me I was “too nice” what ever the f~~~ that meant. I decided she wasn’t worthy of my time anymore and she said she needed time to think. Gave her time and decided to move on. She continued to text me like we were arguing but I never stated anything and she decided we shouldn’t be together. I said “Okay, good luck with life and I don’t mind if you delete my number” and she didn’t respond for 4 days. Basically, she didn’t know what she wanted/was confused and wanted to move on. She later told me she needed someone that “gets her, and is kind and there for her” WTF??? I treated her with respect and love since the moment I meet her. So f~~~ it I decided to seek out what was “too nice” and saw a bunch of guys talking about MGTOW and here I am.

    #420613
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    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    Welcome. Yeah, women say they want a nice guy, but they don’t. But then again, women say a lot of things they don’t mean.

    Order the good wine

    #420616
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    AgentJakeOz
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    It really p~~~ed me off, especially trying to understand her. My cousin and a couple friends said to drop her. I’m glad I listened.

    #420648
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    My ex told me I was “too nice” what ever the f~~~ that meant.

    I’ll tell you what it meant and it’s not that complicated.
    You can also listen to Tom Leykis explaining it to someone else.

    When you look closer (and have enough experience) it means she hates herself and believes in her heart that she deserves to be treated like s~~~. …. to cultivate her own “asshole” …. so that she gets to complain about him.

    A “nice guy” doesn’t do that for her.

    He doesn’t satisfy her core belief system ( “all men are assholes” ) …. which is more valuable to her than finding a “good man”. Prime example.

    Always remember, western women born in the 60+ years have been raised in the toxic, corrosive, negative world of feminism. They can’t help but look at the world (and men) like a feminist.

    All of your positive qualities will be spun into a negative.
    To bring the worst out of you – on purpose.

    When “too nice” is a criticism, she treats you like there’s something wrong with you – when there is NOTHING wrong with you and everything is wrong with her. You can’t fix this kind of bitch. Eventually a man will think “Well if she’s going to treat me like an asshole no matter what I do, I may as well just go head and BE an asshole!”.

    … and now she’s “happy” and can scurry off to her feminist asshole friends to say “AHA!! SEE?? TI TOLD YOU!! MEN REALLY ARE AS BAD AS WE’VE SAID!!” It’s important to never give her this satisfaction.

    • instead of saying “he’s protective” they’ll say “he’s oppressive”
    • instead of saying “he’s smart” they’ll complain “he demeans my intelligence”
    • instead of saying “he’s hard-working” they’ll say “he’s obsessed with work”
    • instead of saying “he’s confident” they’ll say “he’s an ego-monster”
    • instead of saying “he’s wonderful” they’ll say “he’s too nice”

    The key is to deny her the asshole that makes her “happy”.

    • If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat-race, you’re a male chauvinist.
    If you don’t you’re sexist.

    • If you stay home and do the housework, you’re a pansy.

    If she stays home and do the housework, you’re oppressive.

    • If you work too hard there is never any time for her.
    
If you don’t work enough, you’re a good-for-nothing bum.

    • If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, its called “exploitation”.
    
If YOU have a boring repetitive job with low pay….. you should get off your ass and find something better.

    • If you get a promotion ahead of her, that is favoritism. 

    If she gets a job ahead of you, it’s equal opportunity.

    • If you mention how nice she looks, it’s sexual harassment.
    
If you keep quiet, it’s male indifference.

    • If you cry, you’re a wimp.
    
If you don’t, you’re an insensitive bastard.

    • If you make a decision without consulting her, you’re a chauvinist. 

    If she makes a decision without consulting you, she’s a liberated woman.

    • If you ask her to do something she doesn’t enjoy, that’s domination.
    
If she asks you, it’s a favor.

    • If you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear, you’re pervert. 

    If you don’t, you’re gay.

    • If you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape, you’re sexist.
    
If you don’t, you’re unromantic.

    • If you try to keep yourself in shape, you’re vain.
    
If you don’t, you’re a slob.

    • If you buy her flowers, you’re after something.
    
If you don’t, you’re not thoughtful.

    • If you’re proud of your achievements, you’re full of yourself.
    
If you’re not, you’re not ambitious.

    • If she has a headache, she’s tired.
    
If you have a headache, you don’t love her anymore.

    • If you want it Too often, you’re oversexed. 

    If you don’t, there must be someone else.

    THE BOTTOM LINE: Every one of your qualities will be spun into a NEGATIVE. This can easily be studied and understood by countless psychologists and anyone with common sense.

    “Too nice” is not your problem.
    It’s hers. And you can walk away knowing exactly what it means.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #420649
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    Muglintar
    Muglintar
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    welcome, i take it, you are not fully familiar with “womenish” yet, let me give you some thoughts on that.

    My ex told me I was “too nice” what ever the f~~~ that meant.

    – that means you were downgraded to being the beta-provider and she lost sexual interest in you.

    and she said she needed time to think.

    – means the Chad Thunderc~~~ she was banging besides you, wouldn’t allow her to move in. she tought “yet”.

    Gave her time and decided to move on.

    – she found someone else who fitted to her hypergamy needs a quarter of an inch better than you did.

    and she didn’t respond for 4 days. Basically, she didn’t know what she wanted/was confused and wanted to move on.

    – her chad dumped her after pumping and the provider she had put her eyes on, turned out to be married (or otherwise tapped by some other woman) and now she is looking for someone, but keeps you as back-up plan.

    She later told me she needed someone that “gets her, and is kind and there for her

    -she needs someone with more wealth, than you are likely to offer within the next 2 to 3 years and she wants to become a SHM asap.

    Conclusion:
    You’re lucky, you got rid of that lazy, greedy bitch, before she managed to force you onto the plantation.

    the strange thing is, women use the very same phrases to tell men about what they really want in different languages. Once you managed to decifer it, women’s talk is no windtalker encoding anymore.

    "Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

    #420654
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    It really p~~~ed me off, especially trying to understand her. My cousin and a couple friends said to drop her. I’m glad I listened.

    Excellent.

    Some guys believe in giving women the “asshole she wants”.

    Give her what she WANTS!
    Give here what she PREFERS.
    Give her what she thinks she DESERVES.
    . . . . . to be treated like CRAP.

    There is a certain truth to it, but it’s essentially giving her what she wants.

    It’s being “the man SHE wants” . . . . .
    instead of being the man YOU always wanted to be.

    Which is more valuable to you?

    Welcome to MGTOW and the forums.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #420655
    +4
    AgentJakeOz
    AgentJakeOz
    Participant
    57

    My ex told me I was “too nice” what ever the f~~~ that meant.

    I’ll tell you what it meant and it’s not that complicated.
    You can also listen to Tom Leykis explaining it to someone else.

    When you look closer (and have enough experience) it means she hates herself and believes in her heart that she deserves to be treated like s~~~. …. to cultivate her own “asshole” …. so that she gets to complain about him.

    A “nice guy” doesn’t do that for her.

    He doesn’t satisfy her core belief system ( “all men are assholes” ) …. which is more valuable to her than fining a “good man”. Prime example.

    Always remember, western women born in the 60+ years have been raised in the toxic, corrosive, negative world of feminism. They can’t help but look at the world (and men) like a feminist.

    All of your positive qualities will be spun into a negative.
    To bring the worst out of you – on purpose.

    When “too nice” is a criticism, she treats you like there’s something wrong with you – when there is NOTHING wrong with you and everything is wrong with her. You can’t fix this kind of bitch. Eventually a man will think “Well if she’s going to treat me like an asshole no matter what I do, I may as well just go head and BE an asshole!”.

    … and now she’s “happy” and can scurry off to her feminist asshole friends to say “AHA!! SEE?? TI TOLD YOU!! MEN REALLY ARE AS BAD AS WE’VE SAID!!” It’s important to never give her this satisfaction.

    • instead of saying “he’s protective” they’ll say “he’s oppressive”
    • instead of saying “he’s smart” they’ll complain “he demeans my intelligence”
    • instead of saying “he’s hard-working” they’ll say “he’s obsessed with work”
    • instead of saying “he’s confident” they’ll say “he’s an ego-monster”
    • instead of saying “he’s wonderful” they’ll say “he’s too nice”

    The key is to deny her the asshole that makes her “happy”.

    • If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat-race, you’re a male chauvinist.
    If you don’t you’re sexist.

    • If you stay home and do the housework, you’re a pansy.

    If she stays home and do the housework, you’re oppressive.

    • If you work too hard there is never any time for her.
    
If you don’t work enough, you’re a good-for-nothing bum.

    • If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, its called “exploitation”.
    
If YOU have a boring repetitive job with low pay….. you should get off your ass and find something better.

    • If you get a promotion ahead of her, that is favoritism. 

    If she gets a job ahead of you, it’s equal opportunity.

    • If you mention how nice she looks, it’s sexual harassment.
    
If you keep quiet, it’s male indifference.

    • If you cry, you’re a wimp.
    
If you don’t, you’re an insensitive bastard.

    • If you make a decision without consulting her, you’re a chauvinist. 

    If she makes a decision without consulting you, she’s a liberated woman.

    • If you ask her to do something she doesn’t enjoy, that’s domination.
    
If she asks you, it’s a favor.

    • If you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear, you’re pervert. 

    If you don’t, you’re gay.

    • If you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape, you’re sexist.
    
If you don’t, you’re unromantic.

    • If you try to keep yourself in shape, you’re vain.
    
If you don’t, you’re a slob.

    • If you buy her flowers, you’re after something.
    
If you don’t, you’re not thoughtful.

    • If you’re proud of your achievements, you’re full of yourself.
    
If you’re not, you’re not ambitious.

    • If she has a headache, she’s tired.
    
If you have a headache, you don’t love her anymore.

    • If you want it Too often, you’re oversexed. 

    If you don’t, there must be someone else.

    THE BOTTOM LINE: Every one of your qualities will be spun into a NEGATIVE. This can easily be studied and understood by countless psychologists and anyone with common sense.

    “Too nice” is not your problem.
    It’s hers. And you can walk away knowing exactly what it means.

    WOW, I can’t thank you enough. That is so frustrating to think about! I can’t believe that this is what the world has come too. I guess that Red-Pill is taking effect now. I’m glad I found this.-Better yet, glad it found me!

    #420660
    +2

    welcome, i take it, you are not fully familiar with “womenish” yet, let me give you some thoughts on that.

    My ex told me I was “too nice” what ever the f~~~ that meant.

    – that means you were downgraded to being the beta-provider and she lost sexual interest in you.

    and she said she needed time to think.

    – means the Chad Thunderc~~~ she was banging besides you, wouldn’t allow her to move in. she tought “yet”.

    Gave her time and decided to move on.

    – she found someone else who fitted to her hypergamy needs a quarter of an inch better than you did.

    and she didn’t respond for 4 days. Basically, she didn’t know what she wanted/was confused and wanted to move on.

    – her chad dumped her after pumping and the provider she had put her eyes on, turned out to be married (or otherwise tapped by some other woman) and now she is looking for someone, but keeps you as back-up plan.

    She later told me she needed someone that “gets her, and is kind and there for her

    -she needs someone with more wealth, than you are likely to offer within the next 2 to 3 years and she wants to become a SHM asap.

    Conclusion:
    You’re lucky, you got rid of that lazy, greedy bitch, before she managed to force you onto the plantation.

    the strange thing is, women use the very same phrases to tell men about what they really want in different languages. Once you managed to decifer it, women’s talk is no windtalker encoding anymore.

    That sounds like a very accurate translation.

    When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

    #420664
    +4
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    WOW, I can’t thank you enough

    I read your bio last night and thank you for making an intro.

    When men listen to women’s stupid s~~~ like “you’re too nice”, she is deliberately misleading you…. and a man is left standing there scratching his head wondering what the f~~~ he did wrong. And then he starts BLAMING HIMSELF thinking he “screwed up”.

    But he didn’t screw up.
    She is mentally f~~~ed up beyond all recognition.

    Have you ever COMPLAINED because someone was “too nice” to you? Have you ever punished a girl for telling you she loves you too often? Would you ever divorce your bride on the ground that she is “too nice” to you?

    It is so mentally f~~~ed up beyond all recognition.

    Then, 10/15/20 years later, the same toxic bitch single mother comes back to you looking for a wallet to support her and her bastard womb turd , and then she says to you:

    Dear Nice Guy, I Wasn’t Ready For You Before — But I Am Now

    … to which you can reply……

    Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore

    As regular and predictable as their periods.

    So be the man you always wanted to be. Why not even turn women off by being “too nice”…. and then in 10/15/20 years, she will go through the names of every guy who was ever remotely nice to her, and she will come looking for you. That’s the day you can tell her to go f~~~ herself, because you already knew what “too nice” meant 20 years AGO.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #420666
    +6
    AgentJakeOz
    AgentJakeOz
    Participant
    57

    And you know what…I had a feeling she was. SHE EVEN TOLD ME “I found someone else” when I surprised her at one of her dance shows! Then 2 days later told me she really didn’t and was glad I came because she didn’t expect it. F~~~ her man. I’m done with that s~~~.

    #420679
    +4
    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
    Participant

    And you know what…I had a feeling she was. SHE EVEN TOLD ME “I found someone else” when I surprised her at one of her dance shows! Then 2 days later told me she really didn’t and was glad I came because she didn’t expect it. F~~~ her man. I’m done with that s~~~.

    It’s like tic-tac-toe. The only way to win is if you don’t play.

    Order the good wine

    #420700
    +3

    Anonymous
    13

    Welcome.

    You’re awake now.

    Women are an extraction program.

    #420717
    +2
    Narwhal
    narwhal
    Participant

    Have you ever COMPLAINED because someone was “too nice” to you? Have you ever punished a girl for telling you she loves you too often? Would you ever divorce your bride on the ground that she is “too nice” to you?

    No, but I did break it off with a woman because she was a doormat. She would never have an opinion on anything and would always defer to me. It’s not that I wanted arguments all the time, but some healthy disagreement every now and then. I had met her mother and discovered her mother was the same way. The situation seemed rather dangerous to me, and quite boring at times.

    That’s really the difference. Never was she too nice, I called it for what it actually was.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #420740
    +3
    Binary Logic
    Binary Logic
    Participant
    2351

    Welcome Agent JakeOz, as you can tell you’re in good hands here. If you haven’t already, do expect to have your reality dismantled, analyzed, then reconstructed on YOUR own terms and ideals. Like many before you, I hate that you had to find the place under the given circumstances, but happy as two f~~~s that you’re here. I hope you find whatever answers you seek.

    KM… quite honestly, I am beginning to suspect that you are of Kwisatz Haderach descent…

    Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

    #420790
    +2
    JVB
    JVB
    Participant

    Welcome brother!! You were on the way out the door anyway. She was done with you. Cut the bitch off 100% from this point forward. Show her what a nice guy you can be if needed.

    Peace is > piece.

    #420892
    +1
    FrostByte
    FrostByte
    Participant
    19005

    Welcome to the forum.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

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